The Captain Swan thread!

[ellemo78]

I did create a thread to discuss favourite moments of season 3 since it does get a lot of negativity. Season 3 did have good moments. I’d be very interested to hear what other people’s favourite moments are.

I’ve been meaning to do that, but considering a lot of my fave moments involve Hook, I wanted to have a proper think and branch out a little bit 😉

@Jenna_B – I agree with pretty much everything you said about OQ. I don’t have an issue with them being quite close and everything is lovey-dovey ‘cos that’s what people do when they first get together. And so what if it was quick, love at first sight and all that – they just acted upon it instead of waiting. Pixie dust or no pixie dust, Robin clearly liked Regina in SB and probably in the EF too – I always thought that Regina was starting to feel something for Robin then but put up her Evil Queen persona b/c that was what people expected in the EF, so ended up pushing him away. You can see her facade falter a little when Robin saves her from the evil exploding door at the DO’s castle.

I read a theory about time travel, that regardless of what had been altered things that are supposed to happen will still happen, but you would get there in another way. They likened it to putting a rock a river. The water will still flow to the same destination, but there is an obstacle in the way, so it may take a little longer or need to take a different route. So thinking of time travel in that way I believe that Marion will die as she is supposed to be dead and the world/powers that be will conspire to set that right. And that is kind of what happened when Hook & Emma stuffed up Snowing’s meeting. It didn’t really take much to put Snow and Charming back on track (the main events still happened – Snow clocking Charming with something heavy causing his scar, Charming catching Snow in the net, Charming saving Snow and then Snow saving Charming) and by the end they didn’t need Hook & Emma’s help on the Troll Bridge so it can be seen that no matter what obstacles were put in their path Snow and Charming were always destined to be together. Hence that’s why I think Marion will die. I just hope not at Regina’s hand.

[Bo-Peeps]

Well.

Robin and Marian. Classic, Iconic, Sacred even and yeah, they should be together. Screwing around with that is just…no. But they went there so they must deal with it.

I didn’t mind Robin and Regina coming together, even fast. In fact, it was fun to see SOMEONE going fast and being frisky. We who love The Captain and his Lady were alwaysssss waiiiiittttinnnggggg anddddd aggggonnnizzzinnnngggg. But the moment Marian showed up, and no matter the circumstances, Robin, who has proclaimed her the absolute love of his life, should be with her.

Now, we won’t find out if time travel (or a conk on the head with a log!) has affected Marian in a negative way until the premiere. But even killing Marian for what they might think is a valid reason, is gonna suck.

***Always in search of a good flock***

[surayya]

I just wish some people would learn to move on, you know? It’s nearly seven months now. It’s getting old. I mean goodness, if you’re so unhappy watching this show, then don’t watch and remove yourself from places that bring out that bad feeling.

Yes exactly, I can understand the “I’ll miss Neal next season” statements, I really do & I in no way have any issues with that, it’s fair enough- I’m sure many of us would feel the same had it been Hook who died & but instead some of them keep degrading the show & other fans because they misinterpreted it, by stating the show has gone down hill, the show is just for fan service or shippers now, insist Neal’ll be back, he only died so another ship could happen, Neal was far more important than a certain other character etc. It’s just stupid, so is upsetting yourself or making yourself depressed or sad by constantly putting yourself in a position where it’s in your face, I feel I have to sit on my hands with some people, so I dont end up typing “If you feel that way so strongly, way not take a break from the fandom & maybe come back when S4 starts & see how you feel then”.

The closer we get to the premiere, the more interviews we’ll get. So, I’m really excited about that. We’re going to see Colin and Jen and everyone else everywhere.

I really hope thats the case- we havent had much at all over the last week or so :/ I need me some spoilers stat! lol

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Lol

 

Henry in EF would be a kick for him and us.

Agreed, what teen wouldnt want an adventure in EF/FTL 😉 I want one & I all growed up 😉 lol

until then…this is quite a good gathering of minds here in this thread!

& the very thing that has kept me here, I just wish most the negativity would die away so some of our old shipmates would came back 😉

 

[surayya]

As much as the haters want to hate on Hook for every single tiny little thing,  at least when it comes to the people he loves, he gives them choices. He in no way takes away another’s person’s agency.  Milah made her choice, Bae made his choice and he let Emma decide what she wanted. You can’t fault the man for caring about what the other person wants to do.

*Nods in agreement*.

I agree. Neal should’ve at least asked Rumple if that was true. There’s a lot of reactions we didn’t get to see from Neal, finding out that Rumple had killed Milah being one of them. The other reaction we didn’t get to see is Neal’s reaction to Tamara’s betrayal and death. That was the woman he loved and was going to marry….and he just kind of went on his merry way.

UGH! YES this!!!!!!

I did create a thread to discuss favourite moments of season 3 since it does get a lot of negativity. Season 3 did have good moments. I’d be very interested to hear what other people’s favourite moments are.

Good idea, I’ll have a think & pop mine in there.

 

[surayya]

I disagree that Robin’s a d-bag. For Robin, Marian has been dead for years, and definitely enough to adequately have mourned his wife and move on in a healthy manner. Robin has zero control over the fact that to Marian, they were happily married days earlier, until she was captured by Regina. And seriously, was he supposed to stay celibate in case some random person managed to figure out how to time travel and 4 or so years after he death, inadvertently reunite him with her? I don’t even really have a problem with the amount of time that has passed for OQ to get where they are – because they’re in that early, ‘everything is great, you’re amazing and you make me amazing’ blah blah blah stage of their relationship. Before they’ve had to deal with any significant problems. Most of us have been there ourselves. I don’t really think Regina and Robin are acting on their feelings for each other solely because a 3rd party told them they were meant to be together. Because every relationship is perfect until reality sinks in and cracks begin to emerge. Even in a good, healthy relationship. Admittedly, OQ’s problem is a little different than most couple’s! I’m not sure Regina and Robin can’t be together – if she’s truly changed…I’m not sure that Regina being Marian’s killer changes that much between Regina and Robin (unpopular thought, I know don’t shoot me! ) — Robin knew of Regina, and he knew of the Evil Queen’s penchant for killing anyone and everyone in her path. Robin would’ve easily been one of the Evil Queen’s victims had he been caught. But he’s made peace with that. Of course, Marian being an almost-victim is far more personal…would Robin have known Marian died at Regina’s hand while still living in the EF? I can’t remember if they made that clear. It seems like it would be the natural assumption that if someone up and disappears, it’s at the hands of the Evil Queen. Ultimately, I think the entire storyline hinges on exactly how much Regina has truly changed. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a theme for all of the villains in 4A – Is Rumple going to backslide (further) once Belle finds out about Zelena? Will Hook be able to continue on his path to be a good man – what needs to happen for him to be tempted to readopt the full on Captain Hook persona again? I imagine we’ll see the pirate emerge now and then, especially when he’s in protection mode…is drawing on his pirate skills to ensure the safety of the ones he loves enough to tempt him back to that life? We would think no, but he’s still on his journey to being good, I don’t know that he’s fully redeemed himself yet, especially in his own eyes. Regina has had to deal with very little repercussions of her actions. She’s due. This situation is exactly the kind of setup needed to see if Regina can really turn herself around, make herself deserving of someone’s love, or if she’s really just too far gone.

I’m in total agreement with you here. I’m still a little unsure how they are going to handle it, but I well & truly ready to sit back & enjoy the show 🙂

Well. Robin and Marian. Classic, Iconic, Sacred even and yeah, they should be together. Screwing around with that is just…no. But they went there so they must deal with it. I didn’t mind Robin and Regina coming together, even fast. In fact, it was fun to see SOMEONE going fast and being frisky. We who love The Captain and his Lady were alwaysssss waiiiiittttinnnggggg anddddd aggggonnnizzzinnnngggg. But the moment Marian showed up, and no matter the circumstances, Robin, who has proclaimed her the absolute love of his life, should be with her. Now, we won’t find out if time travel (or a conk on the head with a log!) has affected Marian in a negative way until the premiere. But even killing Marian for what they might think is a valid reason, is gonna suck.

I’m totally with you here Bo. Although they probably will kill her off & yep, it will suck!

It is kind of a nice way to change up a traditional fairy tail love story though, I will admit if I had to choose, I’m glad it’s Snowing who arent breaking with their traditional love story by Charming being dead though.

Haha on the waiting & agonizing …. we are suckers for punishment …. I actually really enjoyed the wait (sans nasty Emma, even if I understand why she was being nasty, it eventually got old) & I’m looking forward to A,E & co. sending us on another emotional roller coaster next season 😉

[Epona_610]

I agree too. He offered Bae a chance/choice for The Jolly Roger to be his home too and Bae turned him down.

There’s that word again, choice. Hook gave him the choice. He didn’t force him to stay. Bae made his choice to leave.

As much as the haters want to hate on Hook for every single tiny little thing, at least when it comes to the people he loves, he gives them choices. He in no way takes away another’s person’s agency. Milah made her choice, Bae made his choice and he let Emma decide what she wanted. You can’t fault the man for caring about what the other person wants to do.

Yes, exactly! In addition to Bae, that’s why I can’t stand allegations about “stealing” Rumple’s wife. She left of her own free will because she WANTED to, and saying she was “stolen” is saying you think someone’s wife is his property. And no, Hook didn’t “coerce” Emma into kissing him in 305. He was just being his usual flirty self. He didn’t actually expect her to kiss him; he was clearly surprised when she did. (Not to mention that it’s clear that he didn’t even plan on announcing that he’d saved Charming’s life and expect praise from everyone; Charming brought it up himself and Hook even asked him if he was sure it was a good idea to say anything about it. Okay, so I mentioned it.)

[surayya]

I can’t stand allegations about “stealing” Rumple’s wife

Nor I, It drives me nuts when people say he “stole” Milah, she is a person, not a sack of meat in clothing >:( I really wish people would get clued up on the meaning of words before they use them-

Steal = To take (another person’s property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.

1) Milah is not & never should be considered Rumple’s property.

2) Milah asked/wanted to go with Hook- she asked Hook’s permission to go with him.

3) Both Milah & Hook intended to return to hovelville (no clue what the village they were in was called, so I’ve dubbed it hovelville in honor of the Stilskin hovel 😉 ) for Bae.

Hook simply & only consented to take Milah with him after she requested him to do so.

And no, Hook didn’t “coerce” Emma into kissing him in 305. He was just being his usual flirty self. He didn’t actually expect her to kiss him; he was clearly surprised when she did. (Not to mention that it’s clear that he didn’t even plan on announcing that he’d saved Charming’s life and expect praise from everyone; Charming brought it up himself and Hook even asked him if he was sure it was a good idea to say anything about it.

Yep- according to these people, every guy on the planet who looks at a women or flirts with a women, yet waits for a women to make the 1st move, is “coercing” them- cause that makes soooooo much sense lol 😉

[surayya]

So I’ve just started my umpteenth rewatch of the whole of S3 (ready to take note of my other fav parts, to contribute to POM thread) & I just noticed when Hook & Regina are having their “Greg Mendell (sp) said something funny to me; he said I’m a villain. & that villains dont get happy endings. You believe that?” moment, well right after Hook say’s “I hope not; Or we’ve wasted our lives”, he changes his gaze, to look directly at Emma as the screen pans towards her. Never noticed it before now lol. Wonder how many other things will pop out this time around 😉

 

[ellemo78]

So I’ve just started my umpteenth rewatch of the whole of S3 (ready to take note of my other fav parts, to contribute to POM thread) & I just noticed when Hook & Regina are having their “Greg Mendell (sp) said something funny to me; he said I’m a villain. & that villains dont get happy endings. You believe that?” moment, well right after Hook say’s “I hope not; Or we’ve wasted our lives”, he changes his gaze, to look directly at Emma as the screen pans towards her. Never noticed it before now lol. Wonder how many other things will pop out this time around

Snap! I’m about to do that same thing. One thing I noticed about S3 there were a lot of shots of Hook looking at Emma (and quite a few reciprical ones too) Most obv in Going Home when Hook has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation, but the camera pans to his reaction to the news Emma is going to stay behind while everyone else will be forced back to the EF. It was pretty obv at the point which romance the writers were going to pursue. 😉

If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness

[surayya]

Lol ellmo, yes it was wasnt it…. I totally cracked up when Neal screams as the arrow hits the wall right in front of his face- never noticed that before either (I usually FF all the EF 3A stuff lol)… also noticed Pan has his shadow when he meets Henry & flies etc… Then the significance of multiple shots of Hook’s reaction/relief to Emma being ok after she was brought back on deck- the only reactions we got to her survival were from Charming, Snow & Hook, the people who love her – no Regina 😉

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