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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • September 4, 2014 at 10:45 pm #281598
    Epona_610
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    I do agree that it would be nice to see the various ships and factions of the fandom spew less hate. I think we’re fairly moderate here – even with our recent griping. Tumblr and other sites can be downright vicious. Seriously, if I see one more thing about ‘rape culture’ or ‘abuse’ I might lose it – those are some extremely serious topics and I personally don’t feel they can or should be applied to a show like OUAT. But unfortunately, I also don’t know that there is a way to change it. The fandom is enormous and like any huge group, you’re going to have people that are septic and should really consider pulling up a seat in the shrink’s office. But when you focus on the good, embracing the fandom can be a lot of fun. So I think it has to be each person’s choice – engage in the negativity or attempt to shield yourself from it as much as possible.

    Agreed. ^^ I’m not entirely sure why this show in particular has inspired such bitterness in a small but vocal section of the fandom. I’ve kinda been trying to figure that out, and I’m not coming up with an answer. *shrug* I definitely also agree though that the continued ridiculous assertions about rape culture regarding CS and/or Hook himself are only making light of an actual, real-world problem. Now there is the problematic element of certain characters acting like they “own” their wives or girlfriends, but Hook is definitely not one of those characters.

    I also agree though that we’ve gotten plenty of spoilers so far–there seems to be something new about the show nearly every day, and while of course not everything is CS-related, we want a few surprises saved for the actual show, right? 😉

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    September 4, 2014 at 10:56 pm #281600
    surayya
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    I think we’ve had a fair amount of spoilers as well CS kiss, Date, Killy’s hand, Killy & Knave having history, Killy & Elsa interaction, Killy & Gold interaction, Emma will have past issues needing to be resolved, Emma & Elsa will be Besties, Emma will embrace & hone her magical skills, Killy & Henry will have more time together, then we’ve had ABC using the NL kiss as promotion for S4, our ship’/Emma & Killy have been in both promos this week If anything it’s Emma spoilers that are relatively thin on the ground 😉 So I think on the whole we’ve been pretty lucky so far & it hasnt just been slow for spoilers about our ship’, it’s been slow for spoilers no matter who you ship or who is your fav 🙂

    I saw this phrase earlier to day & thought yes, yes that is correct when you apply it to CS lol
    <p style=”text-align: center;”>”I dont ship CS, I Titanic CS” lol 😉 :P</p>

    More pretties 🙂

    Gotta love the yawner in the back ground, obviously not the most riveting job in the world as fr as she’s concerned lol 😉
    Now off to read POM & obisgirl’s links…

    September 4, 2014 at 11:07 pm #281601
    surayya
    Participant

    Holy crabby paddies, batman! I totally didnt connect these together until I saw it in the link obisgirl linked to …

    I mean I knew Neal had moved on & that Killy hadnt- but I hadnt connected them in this way before! I feel a fool for totally missing it on my radar lol. Well caught!

    Loved both the metas- thanks for sharing the links POM & obisgirl 😀

    September 5, 2014 at 10:39 am #281611
    obisgirl
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    Holy crabby paddies, batman! I totally didnt connect these together until I saw it in the link obisgirl linked to …

    I mean I knew Neal had moved on & that Killy hadnt- but I hadnt connected them in this way before! I feel a fool for totally missing it on my radar lol. Well caught!

    And remember True Loves can’t move on from each other. Neal moved on and Emma realized in Neverland that she wanted to move on from Neal, so to me, that says that they weren’t true loves. And yeah, Hook was not able to move on from Emma after parting ways with her in Going Home; even though he didn’t think there was a likelihood that he would be able to see her again. He still remained loyal to her memory.

    September 5, 2014 at 9:48 pm #281634
    Epona_610
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    I saw this phrase earlier to day & thought yes, yes that is correct when you apply it to CS lol
    “I dont ship CS, I Titanic CS” lol

    Hmmm. That doesn’t necessarily sound like a good thing, considering what happened to that particular ship! Haha.

    surayya wrote:

    Holy crabby paddies, batman! I totally didnt connect these together until I saw it in the link obisgirl linked to …

    I mean I knew Neal had moved on & that Killy hadnt- but I hadnt connected them in this way before! I feel a fool for totally missing it on my radar lol. Well caught!

    And remember True Loves can’t move on from each other. Neal moved on and Emma realized in Neverland that she wanted to move on from Neal, so to me, that says that they weren’t true loves. And yeah, Hook was not able to move on from Emma after parting ways with her in Going Home; even though he didn’t think there was a likelihood that he would be able to see her again. He still remained loyal to her memory.

    I’m a little confused about that…in what context did we find that out? And does that still apply if one half of a TL couple is dead? It would be so much easier to figure this stuff out if there were more curses to be broken! 😉

    September 5, 2014 at 11:11 pm #281638
    obisgirl
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    surayya wrote:

    I saw this phrase earlier to day & thought yes, yes that is correct when you apply it to CS lol “I dont ship CS, I Titanic CS” lol

    Hmmm. That doesn’t necessarily sound like a good thing, considering what happened to that particular ship! Haha.

    obisgirl wrote:
    surayya wrote:

    Holy crabby paddies, batman! I totally didnt connect these together until I saw it in the link obisgirl linked to … I mean I knew Neal had moved on & that Killy hadnt- but I hadnt connected them in this way before! I feel a fool for totally missing it on my radar lol. Well caught!

    And remember True Loves can’t move on from each other. Neal moved on and Emma realized in Neverland that she wanted to move on from Neal, so to me, that says that they weren’t true loves. And yeah, Hook was not able to move on from Emma after parting ways with her in Going Home; even though he didn’t think there was a likelihood that he would be able to see her again. He still remained loyal to her memory.

    I’m a little confused about that…in what context did we find that out? And does that still apply if one half of a TL couple is dead? It would be so much easier to figure this stuff out if there were more curses to be broken! ;-)

     

    Snow said to Charming if he died, she would not be able to move on.  And we have seen in the past, that true loves can’t move on from each other.  Regina truly loved Daniel (not her verified true love) but she did truly love him and could not move on from his death.

    September 6, 2014 at 12:00 am #281639
    surayya
    Participant

    Hehe Epona, it means ‘Titanic’ in proportions 😉

    New spoilers- 1 about Hook 😉

    Is there anything you can tell us about Hook’s arc for this season of Once Upon a Time that we haven’t heard yet? Anything on his childhood/parents? –Ana
    Series cocreator Adam Horowitz would only say that when it comes to the good (?) pirate, “There is more delving into his past to come” – though the burning question of whom he traded the Jolly Roger to, in the name of finding Emma, won’t be revealed until “somewhere down the road.”
    Do you have any Once Upon a Time scoop that has nothing to do with any of the ‘ships? –Sara
    Always! For Episode 7, the ABC series is casting the one-off role of a pompous prince who beneath his veneer of confidence-slash-arrogance is not much more than a coward ill-equipped to handle conflict.

    September 6, 2014 at 12:22 pm #281647
    obisgirl
    Participant

    OMG, you all need to read this meta by NerdyGirlNotes about Captain Swan and Finding Love Again and the important of First Love. It’s so beautiful.

    September 6, 2014 at 2:29 pm #281649
    PriceofMagic
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    Tamara actually casts a bad light on Neal in that he either:
    a) genuinely moved on from Emma, leaving her in prison whilst he found “Tallahassee” with someone else who he planned to settle down and start a family with.
    b) he was still in love with Emma but was willing to settle for Tamara, meaning that he would have spent his life with a woman he didn’t truly love and would’ve allowed Tamara to spend her life in a one-sided marriage instead of letting her find someone who loved her in return.

    Of course Tamara had to be a villain and not genuine in her affections towards Neal because that was the only way where she wouldn’t come off as a victim and make Neal look like a complete douchebag.

    Also after learning of Tamara’s betrayal, Neal just kind of dropped her and was all “I love you Emma”. Whilst I agree that Neal shouldn’t have been moping incessantly over someone who just used him for their own ends, a little bit of reaction from him would’ve been nice since Tamara was the woman he had chosen to potentially spend the rest of his life with.

    Neal’s sudden flip to “I love you Emma” makes it seem like he was indeed settling for Tamara and that is actually quite unfair to Tamara. Neal chose to stay with Tamara and, whilst that may have seemed like an honourable choice in the short term (not dumping his current partner for his ex), in the long term he was preventing Tamara from finding someone who truly loved her in favour of a half-hearted marriage when he still loved Emma.

    The Tamara/Neal relationship could’ve been interesting if it had been a genuine thing and Neal wasn’t involved in the love triangle. It seems Neal was punished for not dumping Tamara the moment Emma returned which is kind of unfair to him.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    September 6, 2014 at 4:05 pm #281655
    Bo-Peeps
    Participant

    Thanks for the heads up spoiler, surayya 🙂

    Anything delving into the recesses of Hook’s history will be a treat.  Hook has traded history with so many fabulous characters in all his centuries. And while I think Emma would be itching with curiosity about WHO has the Jolly Roger…it is a story that screams to be told eventually. I can’t imagine everyone remaining land-locked in Storybrooke. As far as *down the road*, sometimes with A & E down the road means in a week! We have had so many super BTS spoilers and teasers already for our leather dude, it is pretty much assured we will be enjoying the sultry angst and sassy passion of our Captain. He certainly will be walking with a lighter step without the 50lb coat and getting back his hand (whether cursed/enchanted/knuckle-bloodied or not) is sure to give us a delightful blend of educated and Honorable Lieutenant Jones and dashing Rapscallion Scoundrel Swashbuckler.

    And there will also be this…

    heh heh.

    ***Always in search of a good flock***

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