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September 10, 2014 at 7:19 pm #281991CendrillonParticipant
*comes out of lurking* Greetings, all! Just came across this wonderful and extremely well made video and thought I’d bop over to share it with everyone. Enjoy. 🙂 *goes back to lurking*
[adrotate group="5"]September 10, 2014 at 7:25 pm #281992Bo-PeepsParticipantI don’t think anyone will be surprised. In fact I think only Emma was in semi-sometimes-faux denial. So they can attempt to keep it secret…but is there anyone to keep it from?
I’m still hoping if any stepping back from their relationship is caused by anything other than Emma’s fear that Regina would attempt to do a tit for tat with her and Hook because of the Marian mess, that something threatening but not lethal does happens to Hook that would give Emma that kick in the butt to put down the wall building trowel and realize that if she continues to be putzy after making such advances in her self -realization and ability to love, she might be at risk of losing something precious.
From the new clip on the Spoiler S4 thread that nonnie keeps updating, there are some serious little plot moments that are going to knock us on our collective tushes, including some steamy scenes with Regina. And while we have enjoyed the extended and serious kiss between Hook and Emma is the set scenes, there are no guarantees it won’t end up in the same vault drawer as the NYC hug we loved so much!
Just give me my steamy, sultry, sassy Captain.
***Always in search of a good flock***
September 10, 2014 at 8:13 pm #281995Bo-PeepsParticipantCendrillon!!!! I LOVE that!!
Wonderful find and a super share. Thank you 🙂
I am still smiling after watching it three times 🙂
***Always in search of a good flock***
September 10, 2014 at 9:00 pm #282007surayyaParticipantFrom the new clip on the Spoiler S4 thread that nonnie keeps updating, there are some serious little plot moments that are going to knock us on our collective tushes, including some steamy scenes with Regina. And while we have enjoyed the extended and serious kiss between Hook and Emma is the set scenes, there are no guarantees it won’t end up in the same vault drawer as the NYC hug we loved so much!
Agree on backside knocking 😉 I think that kiss is fairly safe, because that was the actual blocked scene they were acting out & did like 20 takes of it lol, where as the hug was something they Jen & Colin in off the cuff, to give the producers ‘options’, while acting out a particular scene. Although I do agree that not everything we see BTS will make it past all of the editing cuts to the episodes we see on screen 🙂
I was just thinking about the Dark Hollow scene from Nl, when Emma shouts Hook instead of Neal, it’s interesting how Emma chooses to panic more over what’s happening to Hook than Neal in that moment (this is a moment I wish we had duel shippers here, so we could get the other side of the coin), since it’s only been a couple of weeks since Neal ‘died’, but it does IMO, hint at how much she wanted to move forward in that short period of time & her level of trust in Hook, that I think if she had to choose, she’d have picked Hook…. maybe that moment of realisation, was a big part of the deciding factors that allowed her to say “Good” at the town line. Thoughts?
September 10, 2014 at 9:37 pm #282012obisgirlParticipantWhen you think about it, after their shared moment in 3×05, Emma relied on Hook a lot in Neverland. She looked to him to be honest with her when the news broke about Neal possibly being alive, and then again in Dark Hollow about what that place is. I think that says a lot, that she did not trust Neal to tell her the truth.
If she couldn’t trust him to tell her the truth, tell me then how a romantic relationship between them could possibly work? It can’t.
You can’t have a relationship without trust. She trusted Neal with her heart once and he broke that trust. But Emma trust Emma because she said so to Regina. And trust with Emma, is something that has to be steadily built. Hook earned her trust and also, earned her love because he stuck to what he promised her,
So when I win your heart, Emma… and I will win it… it will not be because of any trickery. It will be because you want me.
He never once tricked her. He was honest with her about most everything (with the exception of Zelena’s kiss but most Oncers forget there, if he told anyone, people would die). What’s a better outcome? Emma lose her powers or people die? Both are bad and Hook knew that.
September 10, 2014 at 10:39 pm #282019Epona_610ParticipantI was just thinking about the Dark Hollow scene from Nl, when Emma shouts Hook instead of Neal, it’s interesting how Emma chooses to panic more over what’s happening to Hook than Neal in that moment (this is a moment I wish we had duel shippers here, so we could get the other side of the coin), since it’s only been a couple of weeks since Neal ‘died’, but it does IMO, hint at how much she wanted to move forward in that short period of time & her level of trust in Hook, that I think if she had to choose, she’d have picked Hook…. maybe that moment of realisation, was a big part of the deciding factors that allowed her to say “Good” at the town line. Thoughts?
Yeah, that was a big indicator for me which way the wind was blowing, so to speak (especially coming after the previous episode’s “I still love you but you hurt me so badly I kinda wish you were dead” to Neal). In a moment of panic, her first instinct was to worry about Hook. (And then for me, I pretty much knew the deal was sealed when he was the one to find her in the midseason finale.)
This reminds me of a short post I saw on Tumblr the other day:
Do you ever just cry because Emma was willing to let Neal die so they can have their best chance of defeating Zelena but she gave up the only chance she thought she had to defeat Zelena to save Killian?
I mean it’s a little harsh (and no, I don’t just cry randomly about OUAT, lol), but pretty much true. Honestly though I should probably have given up on Tumblr by now…sometimes I swear these haters are watching a completely different show! Of course then I’ll come across little gems like the above and other various essays and gif sets and I change my mind. 🙂
September 10, 2014 at 10:41 pm #282020Epona_610ParticipantSorry, accidentally double posted…oops!
September 11, 2014 at 12:27 am #282041ellemo78ParticipantLOL what an awesome vid 😀 That’s made my day!
I was just thinking about the Dark Hollow scene from Nl, when Emma shouts Hook instead of Neal, it’s interesting how Emma chooses to panic more over what’s happening to Hook than Neal in that moment (this is a moment I wish we had duel shippers here, so we could get the other side of the coin), since it’s only been a couple of weeks since Neal ‘died’, but it does IMO, hint at how much she wanted to move forward in that short period of time & her level of trust in Hook, that I think if she had to choose, she’d have picked Hook…. maybe that moment of realisation, was a big part of the deciding factors that allowed her to say “Good” at the town line. Thoughts?
I always thought that was a sign she was concerned for Hook’s safety, whether over Neal’s I don’t think she’s that mean, but definitely Hook was in the forethought of her mind. To play devil’s advocate I think she saw Hook being taken by the shadow and yelled out to him, whereas she had her back to Neal and didn’t see what happened to him until he yelled for her.
She obviously had Hook on her mind once they got back to SB, and those two didn’t have a great deal of interaction in that time. Hook really did back off. He didn’t talk to her at the party, he wasn’t ever in ‘Emma’s team’ when they split up to deal with Panry. He was always on the outer of their group (but the camera made sure we didn’t forget him). It’s Emma that brings up Hook in her and David’s conversation about standing up Neal at Granny’s, and she is pretty jealous of Tink. I think it’s fair to say Hook is definitely in her mind before their goodbyes, so when Hook says he’ll think about her everyday, she’s already been thinking about him and therefore: “Good.”
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September 11, 2014 at 1:00 am #282043surayyaParticipantIs anyone else getting the reply box coming in as a narrow box (narrower than the ‘Tag:’ box) under the `B I ” <del>ABC</del> :’ etc bar, that then wont let you post, so you have to refresh or log out & back in to get the proper Reply box back? Just trying to figure out if it’s my web browser, my connection or my oncepodcast acct :/
This reminds me of a short post I saw on Tumblr the other day: Do you ever just cry because Emma was willing to let Neal die so they can have their best chance of defeating Zelena but she gave up the only chance she thought she had to defeat Zelena to save Killian? I mean it’s a little harsh (and no, I don’t just cry randomly about OUAT, lol), but pretty much true. Honestly though I should probably have given up on Tumblr by now…sometimes I swear these haters are watching a completely different show! Of course then I’ll come across little gems like the above and other various essays and gif sets and I change my mind.
Oh, that is a very good point as well- I had never thought of it in quite that way before. Nice find & thanks for sharing 😀
September 11, 2014 at 2:51 am #282044surayyaParticipantI always thought that was a sign she was concerned for Hook’s safety, whether over Neal’s I don’t think she’s that mean, but definitely Hook was in the forethought of her mind. To play devil’s advocate I think she saw Hook being taken by the shadow and yelled out to him, whereas she had her back to Neal and didn’t see what happened to him until he yelled for her.
Yes, I did as well. I didnt mean, Emma’d just choose to let Neal die or anything like that- I meant her focus was more on Hook’s well being in that moment, than on Neal’s- she looks at Neal as he’s grabbed & slammed into his tree, so see’s whats happening to him, but doesnt call his name in panic like she did with Hook. So my point was in that moment of panic over Hook being taken & slammed into the tree, then starting to have his shadow ripped out, Emma maybe glimpsed the realisation of just how much Hook had come to mean to her- ie. had already started to want to move on with her life after Neal.
I really dont think A&E would have ever made Emma make the choice of who lives & dies between Neal & Hook- that’d be just be another cruel blow she doesnt need IMO
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