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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • October 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm #284130
    surayya
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    Glad you’re enjoying your trip, @Obisgirl! You’re definitely in for a great premiere when you return! Welcome back, KJ! The rest of you lurking around, come on out!! :)

    They’re stuck and she can’t seem to break herself out of this fear. Emma’s life is in danger so David and Hook bromance out and come to the rescue and David talks Elsa down off the ledge with a lot of things that Anna taught him a long time ago.

    And…that’s probably all I need to make Sunday’s episode awesome in my book. My 2nd favorite ship!

    *Squeeeeee* This episode just sounds better & better!!!!! Is it Once day yet?! 🙂

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    October 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm #284132
    surayya
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    And….

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    I’m dead. Happy dead. But dead.

    https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/518144569712447488/photo/1

    *bounces off chair & dies a happy, happy Oncer….. I am a ghost*
    YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! I knew it & I love it & I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you sooooo much for sharing that @Jenna_B 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

    October 3, 2014 at 6:43 pm #284139
    surayya
    Participant

    Some new CS vids- incorporating E01 stuff in them to get us through the next 2days 🙂
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHPNs72r_8

    JMo on some CS stuff in an interview yesterday-

    TVLINE | And as a result, Hook and Emma might be taking it slow?
    Yeah, I think so. There’s a lot to figure out. And we’re trying to figure out if we can be together in midst of snow monsters and creatures chasing us and an evil Snow Queen in town…. Trying to figure out complicated dating issues in the midst of crazy chaos makes for some really funny things, some very serious things, some very heartbreaking moments, some very exciting moments. It really definitely turns dating into a true adventure.
    TVLINE | In the premiere, Emma reassured him, “Be patient.” But it’s been a while since the show has had anything close to a love scene. Might Emma and Hook eventually end that dry spell?
    I hope so. That’s about all I can say.
    TVLINE | What role, if any, does Emma play in Hook’s makeover? Is it something she initiates? Something she helps out with?
    Oh, he does that all on his own. He is very fashionable, that Captain Hook.
    TVLINE | Does Emma have a reaction?
    Of course!

    I just got so much more excited about that ep when I read Killian simply goes off & buys new clothes for himself….. I can.not.wait to see Emma’s reaction to his new outfit! 😀

    http://tvline.com/2014/10/02/once-upon-a-time-preview-jennifer-morrison-emma-elsa-regina-hook/

    October 3, 2014 at 6:46 pm #284142
    Jenna_B
    Participant

    Haha, I do just have to make one comment about the script tease and ‘haters’…apparently they are interpreting it as Hook attempting to buy Emma.  That is awesome, just because you really have to be out of your mind to get that from the script tease!   Those haters….they used to upset me, now they just make my day with their insanity!  Probably not the effect they’re looking for, however….

     

    October 3, 2014 at 6:47 pm #284143
    callmeLola
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    BEST REACTION GIF EVER!!!!!!   *does the CaptainCharming happy dance**   YES, this is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. Charming had better remember that fireside chat he had with Prince Charles.

    October 3, 2014 at 6:53 pm #284147
    surayya
    Participant

    October 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm #284149
    surayya
    Participant

    Haha, I do just have to make one comment about the script tease and ‘haters’…apparently they are interpreting it as Hook attempting to buy Emma. That is awesome, just because you really have to be out of your mind to get that from the script tease! Those haters….they used to upset me, now they just make my day with their insanity! Probably not the effect they’re looking for, however….

    LOL! I know right! They are so hard case, you cant do anything but laugh at them- they are a seriously funny bunch these days.

    BEST REACTION GIF EVER!!!!!! *does the CaptainCharming happy dance** YES, this is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. Charming had better remember that fireside chat he had with Prince Charles.

    Hehe, yeah it pretty much sums my facials when I read that script tease 😉

    Yes! He had better remember that conversation- I do hope Killy says something along the lines of “I’m pretty sure I made that clear in the EF” or something like that to him 😉 Gentle reminder & a nice call back if they did 🙂

    October 3, 2014 at 7:08 pm #284152
    Jenna_B
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    It sounds like it’ll be a great scene – and say a lot about all involved.  David’s going to try to be Dad because he never got to be…and Killian’s going to toss a little sass back with an unsaid ‘Emma’s a big girl and we both know she’ll make her own decisions’ thrown in for good measure.  I love the idea of David trying to be Daddy to Emma and get rebuffed by everyone in earshot – because hi David, have you met Emma?!  (Snow not so much – unless they keep the Snow from the Sneak Peek around – if you haven’t seen it go check out the thread….it is AWESOME).

    October 3, 2014 at 7:21 pm #284157
    surayya
    Participant

    It sounds like it’ll be a great scene – and say a lot about all involved. David’s going to try to be Dad because he never got to be…and Killian’s going to toss a little sass back with an unsaid ‘Emma’s a big girl and we both know she’ll make her own decisions’ thrown in for good measure. I love the idea of David trying to be Daddy to Emma and get rebuffed by everyone in earshot – because hi David, have you met Emma?! (Snow not so much – unless they keep the Snow from the Sneak Peek around – if you haven’t seen it go check out the thread….it is AWESOME).

    Agreed & yes I want more badass Snow around! I’m seriously hoping that continues 😉

    October 3, 2014 at 7:53 pm #284166
    PriceofMagic
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    So I just read the first half and sort of skimmed the second half of that meta that Epona linked to and whilst I do agree that CS isn’t rape culture, there are some points I disagree with, mainly within the season 2 stuff.

    1. The “When I jab you with my sword, you’ll feel it” line. I can see how that particular line could be interpreted as a little on the sexually threatening side. I’m not saying it is as each individual line doesn’t throw up any “red flags”, however, when it is preceded by the “normally I prefer to do more enjoyable activities with a woman on her back” line, the context it is said in becomes more sexualised. The issue people have with the “When I jab you with my sword, you’ll feel it” line isn’t with the “jab” which the metawriter seems to think, it’s with the “sword”. People are interpreting “sword” as a euphemism for penis. Also the situation that the line was said in wasn’t ideal. It wasn’t a relaxed atmosphere, it was combative, Emma and Hook were battling to “win”, etc. Also I think part of it is to do with the perception of both male and female characters within the media. For example, you are more likely to see women represented as victims of men in the media rather than vice versa. So in a situation where Emma is on her back which is considered a submissive position whilst Killian is “on top” in what is considered the “dominant” position and making the innuendo, I can see why people may see him as being sexually threatening towards Emma. On a side note, the entire Alien film franchise is built on the premise of male rape and sexual threat. It is what makes the films more scary than your average slasher film.

    2. Where did the writer get the idea that Milah worked in a tavern? I don’t recall that being said in-show. Milah spent a lot of her time at the tavern but that’s probably because that was the one place where she wasn’t made to feel like a pariah. Taverns didn’t care who you were so long as you continued to drink and spend your money.

    3. I strongly disagree that “Rumple punishes Hook further by not killing him so Hook decides to remove Belle from him by shooting her in the shoulder”. What Hook did to Belle was just plain wrong. He didn’t just shoot her in the shoulder, he took away her memories, he took away her IDENTITY. I had no problem with Hook stabbing Rumple in 215 (I didn’t like it but I had no problem with it). Rumple wasn’t “punishing” Hook by not killing him, Rumple would’ve happily killed him, Rumple was trying to show Belle that he did have good in him and that she wasn’t wrong. Belle was encouraging Rumple to do the right thing, yeah she may have been more Rumple focussed, but Hook had tried to kill her previously. I noticed in the meta the writer left out the scenes of Hook in Belle’s cell and Hook at the library. If anything, Hook went after Belle unprovoked. Belle hadn’t done anything to Hook so Hook wasn’t actually being “honourable” in his treatment of Belle.

    I feel that meta kind of tried to whitewash Hook’s past misdeeds a little. I get that the aim of the meta was to prove that Hook doesn’t promote rape-culture and it does achieve that, however it does feel like there is a little whitewashing in there specifically in Hook’s treatment of Belle. We all know I wasn’t Hook’s biggest fan during season 2 but still, he his past misdeeds should be acknowledged alongside Regina’s and Rumple’s.

    One thing of interest in that meta though was the definition of rape culture etc etc which includes “•Dehumanization of femininity – calling people “sissy”, “pussy”, “not a real man”, etc.” I bring this up in relation to the Milah and Rumple relationship especially when Milah is mouthing off at Rumple in the tavern when he says she had responsibilities and she replied “you mean like BEING A MAN and fighting in the ogre wars?” Milah is implying that Rumple wasn’t a real man because he didn’t fight in the ogre war, then in 401 during Rumple’s speech to Neal’s grave he said that when he had comforted Bae, for the first time in his life he “felt like a man”. By the meta writer’s definition of rape culture, wasn’t Milah, by implying that Rumple wasn’t a man for not fighting in the ogre war, participating in the “Dehumanization of femininity”?

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