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May 31, 2013 at 2:05 pm #196729
obisgirl
Participant@Surayya wrote:
This isn’t CS related, but I just had share anyway …. Its the pilot script for Once!
http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Once_Upon_A_Time_1x01_-_Pilot.pdfActually, it kind of is because of the nursery scene where Charming talks to Snow. There’s a pirate doll in there. 😆 which inspired a few CS fanfics.
On a separate note, William Keck from TV Guide teased a Once exclusive on Monday. There’s no hints it could be about Swan, but hopefully, maybe there’s a little something in there to tie us over during the summer hiatus. 😀
but on a very related CS note, that nc-17 fanfic I teased about while back, I posted it to my ao3.org profile. So just click on the link in my signature.
[adrotate group="5"]May 31, 2013 at 3:13 pm #196738sarah_tn
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
@Surayya wrote:
This isn’t CS related, but I just had share anyway …. Its the pilot script for Once!
http://www.zen134237.zen.co.uk/Once_Upon_A_Time_1x01_-_Pilot.pdfActually, it kind of is because of the nursery scene where Charming talks to Snow. There’s a pirate doll in there. 😆 which inspired a few CS fanfics.
On a separate note, William Keck from TV Guide teased a Once exclusive on Monday. There’s no hints it could be about Swan, but hopefully, maybe there’s a little something in there to tie us over during the summer hiatus. 😀
but on a very related CS note, that nc-17 fanfic I teased about while back, I posted it to my ao3.org profile. So just click on the link in my signature.
Do we know if it’s related to the TVLine Article where Colin is talking about love interests for Hook in season 3? I was really excited when I read that article this morning. It doesn’t promise CS, but does make me excited about more Colin/Hook we can look forward to.
May 31, 2013 at 5:50 pm #196748kfchimera
ParticipantThanks for the link Sarah. I found it funny to read about the Love Boat aspect, but Colin did phrase things as whatever Hook might start with Regina would sort of be secondary to “waiting” for Emma.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 31, 2013 at 6:39 pm #196758sarah_tn
Participant@KFChimera wrote:
Thanks for the link Sarah. I found it funny to read about the Love Boat aspect, but Colin did phrase things as whatever Hook might start with Regina would sort of be secondary to “waiting” for Emma.
He’s going to be at the Monte Carlo Film Festival June 9-13 (http://onceuponatime-fans.com/news/colin-odonoghue-to-attend-the-monte-carlo-television-fest). I can only imagine the questions he’ll be asked about CS, now that this has been talked about.
May 31, 2013 at 6:42 pm #196762MysteryKat25
ParticipantThat stupid article caused so many problems! People are bashing Colin and Adam for it because it was taken WAY out of context and the writer even felt the need to say what questions he used leading Colin to agree that it could happen cause he doesn’t know anything. (Wish we could have seen him say it though. His poker face regarding CS is not very convincing!) Love that he added the “waiting for Emma” part though – I think he realizes that Hook is FAR more likely to go after a certain Swan girl and some of it could be based on how he was directed in the finale with all those intense stares etc. He knows something CS is up, even without knowing specifics. Technically since they insisted on leading the question with “given that Emma is licking her wounds over losing Neal” how else could he have answered that question? Poor Colin. Can't catch a break from rabid fans on hiatus. 🙁
Nice to see he’s doing appearances! Hope he gets a lot of nice questions from actual FANS. I’m so sick of seeing his most recent comment twisted 100 ways to Sunday, I want to throw dictionaries at people. If Adam has to address all of this and make a big deal out of it (and goodness knows he’s had to do that sometimes with stuff on the show…) I can only imagine how that will go. I mean really, how is that comment any of those awful things??
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 31, 2013 at 6:56 pm #196766sarah_tn
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
That stupid article caused so many problems! People are bashing Colin and Adam for it because it was taken WAY out of context and the writer even felt the need to say what questions he used leading Colin to agree that it could happen cause he doesn’t know anything. (Wish we could have seen him say it though. His poker face regarding CS is not very convincing!) Love that he added the “waiting for Emma” part though – I think he realizes that Hook is FAR more likely to go after a certain Swan girl and some of it could be based on how he was directed in the finale with all those intense stares etc. He knows something CS is up, even without knowing specifics. Technically since they insisted on leading the question with “given that Emma is licking her wounds over losing Neal” how else could he have answered that question? Poor Colin. Can't catch a break from rabid fans on hiatus. 🙁
Nice to see he’s doing appearances! Hope he gets a lot of nice questions from actual FANS. I’m so sick of seeing his most recent comment twisted 100 ways to Sunday, I want to throw dictionaries at people. If Adam has to address all of this and make a big deal out of it (and goodness knows he’s had to do that sometimes with stuff on the show…) I can only imagine how that will go. I mean really, how is that comment any of those awful things??
What kinds of things have the “rabid” fans been saying/doing? Sounds like some impassioned people may be taking their “ships” way too seriously. Colin is a great actor, and more of him next season is worth getting excited about. CS would be a plus, but I don’t take that so seriously that I’d foam at the mouth about it.
May 31, 2013 at 7:02 pm #196767MysteryKat25
ParticipantWell because it related to Regina & Emma, they’re saying that it’s racist and Latina women are only used and tossed aside, and misogynistic because he’s treating women like that etc. (There are only 3 single people on the boat guys and he was lead to being asked about them…sheesh!) Some have even been adding to that list, calling Hook a rapist (throwing pirate assumptions onto a character who has never been shown in that light is idiotic – he taunted Rumple sure but he loved Milah and she went to him willingly which is really all we have to go on).
I’m sure I’ve forgotten something but those were the big 3. Seemed like a mob with their pitchforks was forming and people were saying they wanted Hook as far away from the women on the show as possible because he’s disgusting and when anybody tried to defend Colin’s comments they said it was the actor who was disgusting and wanted him gone. Ugh!
There was one Latina who defended it and said it wasn’t racist…until she decided she lost respect for the actor and said it was a misogynistic thing instead. *sigh* He was asked about both, he knows nothing, he still implied that Hook is more inclined to go after Emma but admits he just doesn’t know. Poor thing can’t catch a break!
People are SERIOUSLY twisting it out of control if they think that that statement meant any of those things. He agreed that what was suggested to him is a possibility and then said who knows. If Lana had said that about Regina people would be cheering. It’s disgusting how far off the rails people have gone.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 31, 2013 at 7:12 pm #196769sarah_tn
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Well because it related to Regina & Emma, they’re saying that it’s racist and Latina women are only used and tossed aside, and misogynistic because he’s treating women like that etc. (There are only 3 single people on the boat guys and he was lead to being asked about them…sheesh!) Some have even been adding to that list, calling Hook a rapist (throwing pirate assumptions onto a character who has never been shown in that light is idiotic – he taunted Rumple sure but he loved Milah and she went to him willingly which is really all we have to go on).
I’m sure I’ve forgotten something but those were the big 3. Seemed like a mob with their pitchforks was forming and people were saying they wanted Hook as far away from the women on the show as possible because he’s disgusting and when anybody tried to defend Colin’s comments they said it was the actor who was disgusting and wanted him gone. Ugh!
There was one Latina who defended it and said it wasn’t racist…until she decided she lost respect for the actor and said it was a misogynistic thing instead. *sigh* He was asked about both, he knows nothing, he still implied that Hook is more inclined to go after Emma but admits he just doesn’t know. Poor thing can’t catch a break!
People are SERIOUSLY twisting it out of control if they think that that statement meant any of those things. He agreed that what was suggested to him is a possibility and then said who knows. If Lana had said that about Regina people would be cheering. It’s disgusting how far off the rails people have gone.
You’re exactly right. that is just terrible, and it’s awful how unkind, blind and self-serving some people can be sometimes. The only thing I can imagine is that something must be missing from their lives if their passions, feelings, and happiness have such dependence on the future of a fictional relationship. That’s very sad.
May 31, 2013 at 8:38 pm #196776MysteryKat25
ParticipantSome people are (understandably) very touchy about certain topics and rightly so but I feel like HUGE leaps were made in this particular instance. I don’t know which is worse, people making outrageous assumptions and going off….or the shippers that are now attacking each other saying HQ is happening for sure cause they can’t read that Colin said “who knows?”
Things are definitely getting a little too bizarre lately. I look forward to when we have actual news and informed interviews and our show back! I worry about how big the hatred will get when we get a lot of CS interaction early on in the season but I am determined not to let people ruin it for me. We should be able to celebrate actually seeing stuff just as much as they’ve been / will to continue to be jumping for joy at the idea that CS won’t happen. (There was cheering after ASOTM and frankly it wasn’t being excited for SF, a lot of the stuff I actually saw was haha, CS won’t happen now: this needs to stop – be excited for your stuff, don’t mock the others!)
I do think his remark ultimately showed that he at least thinks that Hook will favor Emma and I am going to take it all with a grain of salt. There are always going to be people who read too much into things but it seems like it’s spiraling out of control! We need some real info and filming doesn’t start for ages and comic con is near there too.
Did anybody find video for the panel that Jane, Raphael & Keegan did recently in London? I wonder if Jane said anything useful? I know she was a Spuffy person and I got the impression she likes CS as well but haven’t heard her say anything about it in awhile.
In other shipper related stuff, a few things I’ve noticed:
* Graham treats Emma’s wounds after her fight with Regina
* Hook treats Emma’s wounds after the climb up the beanstalk* Graham reads Emma fairly quickly & knows it takes a lot to get her attention (stops her with the police car)
* Hook reads Emma like an open book from the start* We’re introduced to Charming/Abigail in a carriage where they are at odds over how things should be done (she told him not to take the scenic route) and are then stopped by the fallen tree (thanks Snow!)
* We’re introduced to SwanThief in a car where they at odds over how things should be done and then are stopped by police* Snowing start out on a quest that involves getting a ring and Charming dangling an important necklace (fairy dust) it in front of her
* CaptainSwan start out on a quest that involves getting a necklace (compass) and Hook dangles an important necklace (dried up bean) in front of herInteresting thing I noticed re: Graham. Emma is CLEARLY upset about the Graham/Regina stuff to the point that she doesn’t want to talk about it. She avoids Graham, she pushes him away, and wants nothing to do with any of it to the point that MM tells her she’s the only one who doesn’t see that she loves Graham.
This is very different from how she’s dealt with Neal and Hook. She’s got way more reason to want to avoid any conversations with Neal than she ever had reason to with Graham but she lets Neal hang around because of Henry and she’s had various conversations whether they were unpleasant or not. The only guy she’s pushing away because of her walls (like with Graham) is Hook.
Snow & Charming have both had significant looks when watching Hook & Emma interact. Snow is fairly observant (or was definitely so when she was MM) and keeps a close eye on Emma and knows when she’s upset / jealous / etc. All we’ve seen from Snow on the subject so far is the conversation that happens in The Evil Queen where she tells Emma her superpower has been known to be unreliable when she’s emotional (grr, stop doubting her people!). Sadly the transcript isn’t up for that episode yet so I’ll grab that actual quote in a bit but Emma says that it’s been a decade, she’s over it and Snow says that that might be true but (the gist of it was) don’t get Henry’s hopes up because if you go around saying Tamara is up to something, Henry will think there’s a chance his parents will get back together. (IMPORTANT PART BEING THE FOCUS ON HENRY). Sadly we can’t really jump for joy with Emma saying she’s over it because she does still have feelings for him but I really think that’s 1st love / father of her kid stuff, she *may* be over the idea romantically or at least closer to that point.
As observant as Snow is when it comes to Emma, she was much more observant and less-biased as MM but I’ll take it for now. Snow read the situation as regardless of what you feel, by acting on any of it, this is how it comes across and it could upset Henry. She wasn’t declaring “you have feelings for him and you’re the only one who doesn’t know it!” like she did with Graham (that’s the main point I was trying to make here). The fact that even she questions Emma’s instincts bugs me but she did that in FTL too with treating Emma like a kid who couldn’t do anything. It’s been (mostly) getting better and she does have a point about not getting Henry’s hopes up.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 31, 2013 at 9:29 pm #196789MysteryKat25
ParticipantMissed most of Adam’s tweet-session, grr, but wanted to share this!
I think the reason he doesn’t respond to a lot of stuff is because it would be too spoilery so he answers the safe / clarification stuff usually but the fact that he specifically said “Don’t wanna spoil” in a tweet about whether CS would be romantic or not after not answering a lot of CS stuff gives me hope, though must be taken with a grain of salt. Usually he’ll respond to things with “keep watching” but he added that so he was covering all his bases – keep watching but not confirming anything / alienating anybody but don’t want to spoil (what will hopefully be an epic journey!) Just wanted to share. 🙂
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
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