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October 10, 2014 at 8:03 pm #285006
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ParticipantSOoooooooo very confused now … Scene # 1: Emma and Elsa leaving Gold’s shop and holding Anna necklace Scene # 2: Emma and Elsa entering the library Scene # 3: Emma, Elsa, Anna and Kristoff running and entering Granny’s dinner Scene # 4: Gold and Hook entering the dinner while holding a blue pointy hat Scene # 5: Mr. Gold and Belle talking in front of Gold’s shop, Belle gives him an object we know well (the dagger), they hug before parting. When she returned to the store, Gold cast a spell on it and then Hook gave him something (the round box that we saw in episode 4×01?) Scene # 6: filmed at the docks and involved Gold and Hook but was completely inaccessible http://hookier.tumblr.com/post/99653095319/ouat-filming-10-09-14-scenes-description-and-big So, is Killian under Rumple’s control, are they working together, is Rumple under Killy’s control Or is Killian under SnowQueen control……
Well, which episode are they filming now–409, maybe? I’m not surprised none of it makes too much sense yet, haha. But yeah, I just hope that they don’t turn things around to make Hook and Rumple best pals. After what’s gone on between them, that would just seem way too weird and out of character. Of course, that’s kinda what they did with Regina and Emma, so I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.
On the bright side, we DO get another CS kiss in two days, and then their date in the episode after that! Regina is bugging me this season, but at least the CS is making up for it so far. 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]October 10, 2014 at 8:18 pm #285008surayya
ParticipantHehe, I think this glut of CS we are getting is going to kick us in the teeth when the other shoe eventually drops in true Once fashion lol. We’ll be on this epic euphoric high of CS awesomeness, then A&E will go “KABOOM” & throw us into angst overload 😉
October 10, 2014 at 8:20 pm #285010ellemo78
ParticipantSOoooooooo very confused now …
Scene # 1: Emma and Elsa leaving Gold’s shop and holding Anna necklace
Scene # 2: Emma and Elsa entering the library
Scene # 3: Emma, Elsa, Anna and Kristoff running and entering Granny’s dinner
Scene # 4: Gold and Hook entering the dinner while holding a blue pointy hat
Scene # 5: Mr. Gold and Belle talking in front of Gold’s shop, Belle gives him an object we know well (the dagger), they hug before parting. When she returned to the store, Gold cast a spell on it and then Hook gave him something (the round box that we saw in episode 4×01?)
Scene # 6: filmed at the docks and involved Gold and Hook but was completely inaccessiblehttp://hookier.tumblr.com/post/99653095319/ouat-filming-10-09-14-scenes-description-and-big
So, is Killian under Rumple’s control, are they working together, is Rumple under Killy’s control Or is Killian under SnowQueen control……
Very intriguing. But anything that puts Colin O’Donoghue and Robert Carlyle in scenes together is alright by me! And by the looks of we’ll be getting quite a few this season 😀
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
October 11, 2014 at 12:26 am #285046surayya
ParticipantSome CS related spoilers for the next ep …. I’m DYING OF CS feels …again & it hasnt even aired yet!!!
Emma tells Hook to take Elsa to the Sheriff’s station just in case people might want to take the blame on Marian’s curse or the fact that the ice wall still stands. Hook ends up going to Gold and making a deal with him to help find out who really cursed Marian and trapped them. They are led into the woods where they see the Snow Queen. Hook attempts to call Emma, but she does not pick up. As they turn to leave, the Snow Queen catches them and freezes Killian’s leg so he can’t move and hangs icicles on top of him. She also rendered Elsa’s magic useless so she can’t save him. The Snow Queen is about to drop the icicles on him when Emma and David show up.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99695758526/ok-so-i-know-your-probably-getting-tons-of-questions
Anonymous asked:
does hook grab emma’s arm hard?? cause i don’t want the haters to be right
Hard? It was like a “please notice me swan? What did I do wrong?” kind of grab. Not a “don’t you dare walk away from me” grab. He was hurt, upset, trying to drink away his pain. He just wanted to understand why she was angry.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99687594966/does-hook-grab-emmas-arm-hard-cause-i-dont-want-the
WHAT DO MEAN KILLIAN’S GOT A MOBILE!!!
OMG HE DOES!! (and I’m pretty sure Emma’s number is the only number he has on it 😉 )
It is black!! And I can only assume Emma bought it for him 😀
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99694275866/what-do-mean-killians-got-a-mobile
is there any other dialogue between CS before Hook goes with Elsa in the woods?
Emma tells Hook that she doesn’t have time to argue with him and she wants him to do what she says.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99686716006/is-there-any-other-dialogue-between-cs-before-hook
I’m sorry, the kiss was pretty deep in the episode, so I couldn’t record it because there a no recording rule. However, as I posted before, Emma was pretty cold to Hook and he wanted to know why. She responded saying she didn’t want to lose him like all the other men she’s been with. He assures she won’t lose him because he’s good at surviving. So much beautiful eye contact before the slowly lean in a kiss.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99683881886/hey-there-did-you-get-a-recording-of-the-cs-kiss
“Of course I trust you. But everyone I’ve ever been with is dead. Neal, Graham, and even Walsh. I can’t lose you too.”
– Emma to Hook.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99683082711/4×03-ouat-spoilers-nycc14-captain-swan
In the previews there was a scene where Hook was standing under some dangerous looking icicles caused by the Snow Queen. I’ve read Emma confronts her, but how exactly does the scene play out – does Emma use her magic because Hook is about to be killed?
Just when the icicles are about to fall on Hook and David, Emma uses her magic to push them both away.
http://masumikitty.tumblr.com/post/99683207971/in-the-previews-there-was-a-scene-where-hook-was
Emma gets mad at Hook when they’re at Granny’s. He asks if she wants a drink and she storms out. Emma has tears in her eyes and tells him that everyone she loved has died and brings up Graham, Neal, and even Walsh and is upset because Hook almost died. Hook says “You don’t have to worry about me. If there’s one thing I’m good at, it’s surviving” Then Hook initiates the kiss.
Emma uses magic to fight the Snow Queen and save Killian
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BznYbF2IgAAyomA.jpgI am DEAD!
October 11, 2014 at 5:58 am #285048surayya
ParticipantSome vids to help the time pass until 403 🙂
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October 11, 2014 at 10:53 am #285063killianhookfan
ParticipantI’m super excited for this episode (not so excited for what, I am sure, will be the usual anti-CS, Hook is a misogynistic rapist pig backlash – I am so over that I can’t even stand it).
Although I am feeling completely spoiled by CS so far this season (and it’s hardly started!) I have to say that this season I am really enjoying the other story lines a lot as well. Regina/OQ, Rumple/Rumbelle, the Frozen stuff – I’m actually really liking ALL of it.
People can start throwing darts at me but I think it’s because Neal is gone – there, I said it. I’m sure MRJ is a lovely person and a wonderful actor (I think he was dreadfully miscast on OUaT) but I never felt like he fit in with the rest of the cast; nothing was ever convincing to me with him as Neal and the longer the storyline was dragged out the worse it got. Now that he is gone, it’s like everything is back to normal on the show for me. And I’m honestly not saying that because I’m a CS shipper. When Emma and Gold first found Neal there was a brief moment of time where I thought I might like to see Emma and “Bae” together. But then when Neal started interacting with everyone – NOPE. Zero chemistry, not just with Emma but with the entire cast. And because there was no chemistry I could never see Emma and Neal’s relationship developing beyond anything other than a bad teenage romance. Out of kindness to the SF fans I found myself trying to force myself to find scenes where I felt like I could find Neal having chemistry with ANY of the characters on the show. I was sad when he died because I loved “Bae” and I felt bad for who Emma and Rumple were losing and what losing him meant to them. But that was it.
I feel like I have my show back again. Which is funny because all the haters are posting about how they think the show sucks now and how it’s nothing like it was in the beginning. I truly do not understand anyone who hates the show so much but continues to watch or post about it. Or prays to network Gods that it will get cancelled. That is just . . . odd. There have been several shows that I used to watch that I just no longer enjoyed or lost interest in. So I stopped watching them. But I didn’t send hate mail to the producers and didn’t organize prayer circles hoping for cancellation and I didn’t waste HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS, MONTHS of my life discussing and posting about how much I hate the show now. And I don’t understand the argument that people make saying that they are “too invested” in the show and the friends they have made via the show to stop watching or stop posting about it. I’m really happy if they have made friends from watching the show – go find another show you all LIKE and post happy thoughts about that one on that show’s board together!!! Heaven help me if I am ever so “invested” in something that I absolutely despise but cannot leave. And these people think Emma has an unhealthy relationship with Hook???? They are spending hours of their life posting, blogging, tweeting, and chatting about a show that they can’t stand and, in some cases, no longer watch!!! THAT seems entirely unhealthy to me.
I find myself spending more time looking at pictures and stuff on tumblr these days because I don’t have to deal with any of the “weirdness” there. It seems like this site has been taken over by people who hate the show and are hoping it will get cancelled. Which it strange because I thought it was supposed to be a site for people who enjoy the show. It isn’t even just anti-CS anymore. It’s like if you are positive about the show in any way you are the enemy. I feel like we lost so many fun people here who used to have such great and insightful posts. Not just CS shippers. It feels like all of the threads are MUCH sparser than they used to be. I think people who weren’t die hard SF shippers got tired of all the negativity and fled.
Is it like this on other OUaT boards? This is the only board I post on. I always hear about how there is a lot of CS and Hook hate out there but have other OUaT boards also lost followers because of all their negativity? Does anyone have other boards they go to or know where some of our friends have fled to? It ticks me off that people have been successful in driving people away and I don’t want to leave but I miss all of our CS shipmates!!
Sorry for the downer post. We just moved to Florida and I’m still trying to make friends. I was looking forward to OUaT starting back up because I feel like I’ve always had friends here to chat with and that would change even when I move, but everyone stays so quiet or is gone now.
October 11, 2014 at 11:56 am #285067obisgirl
ParticipantI really don’t understand how haters can still hate Hook after 4×02. I mean, what he said to Charming and how he behaved when Emma’s life was in danger, proved he truly loves Emma and doesn’t see her a conquest or a flirtation. He has genuine feelings for her.
I mean, the way he hugged in the loft and the way he looks at her…how can you question his feelings for her? How can people still hate him for loving Emma so unconditionally?I’ve ‘shipped a lot but Captain Swan is honestly, the most beautiful love story ever. Hook is everything Emma needs in a true love and he was always meant to fall in love with her and I have to believe that Adam and Eddy always wanted to bring him onto the show for one purpose: making him Emma’s true love. They couldn’t get the rights for him in season one, so they had to wait until they did.
And knowing this season’s theme is that you don’t give up on the people that you love and this is what the Charming family does, Hook fits in quite perfectly there because Hook has never given up on the people that he loves. He fights for them.
And you know, it has to be said but Neal admitted to Mulan that he did give up on Emma. He took the easy way and did not even look for her after the curse was broken. He gave up on trying to reconcile because his fear got in the way. It was implied that the reason Neal asked August to send him a post card to him once the curse was broken, was that he intended to go after Emma but he didn’t. He even moved on from Emma and found love with Tamara. And true loves can’t move on from each other and yet, Neal moved on from Emma and also gave up on her as well.
And Hook couldn’t move on from Emma in the Enchanted Forest during the lost, he stayed loyal to her and Hook didn’t give on finding a way to rescue her from the ice cave. Hook is the man Emma deserves, someone who will not give up on her and will continue to fight for her no matter what, even in incredibly futile circumstances.
I know we’re not talking about true love yet but Emma and Hook are definitely on their way to becoming true love. It’s coming (probably in the 4B finale, or going into it).
October 11, 2014 at 12:02 pm #285070PriceofMagic
ParticipantI’m interested to see how the Hook/Rumple interactions work out in season 4. I’m actually kind of nervous about it because it took me so long to like Hook and Rumple will always be one of my top 3 favourites on the show that I don’t want Hook to destroy RumBelle because otherwise I’d end up not liking him again and I love his snark this season so far, I liked the sweet CS moments last episode. I just don’t want Hook to destroy all the hard work he’s done to make me like him by throwing it away in the next 9 episodes.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixOctober 11, 2014 at 12:24 pm #285077obisgirl
ParticipantRumple will destroy his own happiness, Hook really doesn’t need to do much. Rumple swapped the dagger but he’s still lying to Belle and Adam and Eddy said at NYCC. Rumple is still self-serving and he’s still Everything you see him do will show that he’s in it for himself.
Until Rumple can let go of that selfishness, he’s never really going to have a happy ending with Belle. I feel sorry for Belle, to be honest. She trusts him and has such unwavering faith in him but Rumple continually does these things that sabotage his happy ending.
October 11, 2014 at 12:34 pm #285084killianhookfan
ParticipantI love a Rumple too (hence my screen name) but I honestly believe the only person who could EVER destroy Rumbelle is Rumple himself. Even if they use Hook as a means to move a storyline forward that involves Belle discovering that Rumple gave her a fake dagger and is still struggling with being dark – he would be only that, a means to move the storyline forward – it would still be Rumple’s struggle with overcoming his addiction to magic and power that is the problem, not Hook.
I mean look at the scene in the last episode. Look at how Rumple interacted with Hook. Charming and Hook go to ask Rumple for help with saving Emma. Hook acknowledges that Rumple is the Dark One and is therefore powerful enough to destroy the ice cave. I love Rumple but why was he such a jerk towards Hook? Making a big deal about how he COULD destroy the cave but it would also destroy his girlfriend??? Just as a nice jab to remind him that he destroyed his LAST girlfriend??? Like, sure but then I’m gonna kill this girlfriend just like I killed your last. I get that he is upset about Neal dying and everything but dude is messed up right now and doesn’t appear to be in the right frame of mind in general. So I don’t think Hook is likely to DO anything to negatively affect Rumple’s growth, if anything he might RESPOND in a way that reveals what Rumple is up to but ultimately that might be exactly what is needed for a Rumple to have true character growth.
I actually wonder if they are working toward having Hook and Rumple ultimately bond in some way. I’ve actually wondered why they don’t get along now. I mean Milah treated Rumple like crap and now he is married to his TL Belle, so in hindsight Milah leaving him allowed him to find him his TL. And CS is pretty much shaping up to be TL as well so if Milah had lived Killian would never had found Emma. So in bizarre ways Rumple and Hook’s actions both lead the other to find their TL’s. Not that I think that excuses killing people or going on a 300 year quest for revenge. But ultimately that IS what resulted from those things. So really I don’t get what their problem with each other is anymore. So if they can have Hook and Rumple work together to have Rumple end up with character growth, they could end up bonding. Just a theory.
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