The Captain Swan thread!

[Jenna_B]

I did really love the episode, but I have to agree with the comment (Surayya?  Maybe it was yours?) that I think I would’ve rather been spoiled by the kiss, for more impact.

“Dairy Queen” – I almost died when Emma called the Snow Queen that.  I can’t decide how I feel about the Snow Queen yet.  I’m not really a huge Elizabeth Mitchell fan, I admit…I did like her in the season or so of Lost I watched that she was in, but I really did not like her character on Revolution so that might be it.  I am very curious to see where they go with her, though.  And I still am loving the Frozen addition, much more than I thought I would.

I also liked Killian & Elsa’s interaction.  I think they’d make good friends even if it weren’t for Emma.  I think they played off each other quite well when Elsa said she wasn’t going to sit around the sheriff’s station and Killian’s response was pretty much “well, DUH”.  I can see Emma being very protective of both of them, since having a functional romantic relationship AND friendship are both new to her – and the two of them essentially patting her on the head and doing what they feel they must to keep Emma safe and protected.

I never watched OUAT in WL so I don’t really know what to expect from Will – other than what I’ve seen in gifsets! 🙂  but I loooooved him!  I still have no clue what he’s doing in SB but I have a feeling I’m going to enjoy his presence.

 

The promo – SQUEE!!!  I agree – I loved Emma’s outfit.  It was really is probably her 1st real date – breaking into an amusement park aside – and it’s definitely Killian’s 1st date in this realm – so I love their clothing choices.  It’s a great way to visually show that each of them wants to make a good impression on the other, even though they already know so much about the other.  And they probably both do feel a little like they’re going back in time, and finally getting to experience the ‘normal’ things they missed out during their teenage years/20s.  (or, 300s if you’re the pirate!)  The point of course, being that these two people had to grow up so very fast and so very young – the clothes just allow the audience to see all of that without having to spend 20 minutes expressing those feelings verbally.

Ok, time to get the child to bed!  Somehow he managed to get me to allow him to stay up an extra 1/2 hour again…!!

[surayya]

I quite like the look they’re going for with Emma. The other two dates we’ve seen her on were very different. The first was work, she was in predator mode so she needed to look like a knock-out stunner to catch the guy. (I saw a show the other day that did an experiment on proving that men’s metal capacity goes down after talking to an attractive women, and it did heheheee). The second was a date with a man she’d been going out with for 8 months, she was already quite confident in her feelings for Walsh at that time. Also I got the impression she’d just come from work that time as well, so again perhaps needed the knock-out stunner look. There’s no need to attract Killian, he’s already well attracted, hence the toned down just nice looking pretty thing to wear, she can just be herself for a change. And it works well with/against Killian’s black leather. Yes and although I’m loathe to admit it, it is very Grease. Ohhh that top photo with the rose is so sweet. Did you see the one of Charming with his arm crossed looking all ‘you better not hurt my daughter or I will break you.” I love him in daddy mode. It’s just beautifully pointless but he’s still going to try and protect his little girl.

Agreed.

Also we have to remember Emma’s leather is her armor (pretty sure thats what JMo said), so even while on her date with Walsh, she still had those barriers up that she hadnt allowed him across, which i guess is why she ran from his proposal? She hadnt truly taken of her armor & allowed herself to be totally vulnerable with him yet?

I’m totally with you one Emma just being herself for a night, feminine, soft & vulnerable with a man she totally trusts & is falling/fallen in love with. I cant wait to see this more ‘whole’ side to Emma. I too dont think it’s that big of a leap from where she was… I mean she was wearing more feminine clothing in NY (frilly top thing) when she had her cursed memories anyway- sure they werent in feminine pastel colours, but it was there.

Re Daddy Charming, I know- I’m so very very excited to see Daddy Charming & Mama Snow with their daughters 1st SB date… might be a little late for taking her ‘prom’ photos, but they are both going to bust out those corny ‘my little girl’ moments, just for us Charming family & CS fans & I cant wait for it … I’m almost as excited for this family moment (cant wait to hear what Snow thinks of this lol) as I am for the date! 😉

 

[surayya]

I did really love the episode, but I have to agree with the comment (Surayya?  Maybe it was yours?) that I think I would’ve rather been spoiled by the kiss, for more impact.

Yeah, I’m going to make a concentrated effort to try hold back from of the spoilers for next ep… I totally went to town fangirling when I saw those pics, then went “DAMN, I supposed to be ‘no spoilers’ beyond the promo this week” lol- So not sure if I’ll make it, esp if a sneak peek comes out with CS goodness (what can I say- I’m weak 😉 ), but I’m making the effort this week since 402 was so mind blowing with all the wonderful surprise moments we got 😀

I also liked Killian & Elsa’s interaction.  I think they’d make good friends even if it weren’t for Emma.  I think they played off each other quite well when Elsa said she wasn’t going to sit around the sheriff’s station and Killian’s response was pretty much “well, DUH”.  I can see Emma being very protective of both of them, since having a functional romantic relationship AND friendship are both new to her – and the two of them essentially patting her on the head and doing what they feel they must to keep Emma safe and protected.

Hehe, it was great wasnt it 🙂

The promo – SQUEE!!!  I agree – I loved Emma’s outfit.  It was really is probably her 1st real date – breaking into an amusement park aside – and it’s definitely Killian’s 1st date in this realm – so I love their clothing choices.  It’s a great way to visually show that each of them wants to make a good impression on the other, even though they already know so much about the other.  And they probably both do feel a little like they’re going back in time, and finally getting to experience the ‘normal’ things they missed out during their teenage years/20s.  (or, 300s if you’re the pirate!)  The point of course, being that these two people had to grow up so very fast and so very young – the clothes just allow the audience to see all of that without having to spend 20 minutes expressing those feelings verbally.

I love your take on it as well, good point about the growing up fast & young….

Wow, just got hit with a realisation while reading your post Jenna! This is actually Emma’s 1st real date knowing exactly who she really is! Every other ‘date’ she hasnt been aware of who she really is, which makes it that much more special 😀 That it’s probably Killian’s, 1st real date (doubtful FTL pirates actually do the whole dating thing lol & if the event they do date lol- then his 1st SB date), makes it all the more sweeter IMO.

Ok, time to get the child to bed!  Somehow he managed to get me to allow him to stay up an extra 1/2 hour again…!!

Hehehe, cleaver child 😉

[Epona_610]

Lol, whoops- sorry

Never apologize! I didn’t say I was unhappy to be distracted…

There’s no need to attract Killian, he’s already well attracted[.]

Haha, you can say that again. It’s so cute!

And yes, I’m looking forward to the family moments as well.
I feel like Emma’s going to be rolling her eyes the entire time at her mom’s overenthusiasm and her dad’s overprotectiveness. And like all moments like that, it’ll still be a bit bittersweet because she should have had this when she really was a teenager. 🙁

Yeah, I’m going to make a concentrated effort to try hold back from of the spoilers for next ep… I totally went to town fangirling when I saw those pics, then went “I supposed to be ‘no spoilers’ beyond the promo this week” lol- So not sure if I’ll make it, esp if a sneak peek comes out with CS goodness (what can I say- I’m weak ), but I’m making the effort this week since 402 was so mind blowing with all the wonderful surprise moments we got

When ABC gives out spoilers, then I’m fine with them. My problem is when people see the episode in advance and EVERYTHING gets leaked. If they don’t screen any more of the episodes in advance then I’m not too concerned about spoilers, haha.

[ellemo78]

I’m with you @surayya, I’m trying to wean myself off spoilers, but I can’t seem to do it, especially after watching the promo. I totally understand how Rumple can’t give up his magic, hehee 😉

I also liked Killian & Elsa’s interaction. I think they’d make good friends even if it weren’t for Emma. I think they played off each other quite well when Elsa said she wasn’t going to sit around the sheriff’s station and Killian’s response was pretty much “well, DUH”. I can see Emma being very protective of both of them, since having a functional romantic relationship AND friendship are both new to her – and the two of them essentially patting her on the head and doing what they feel they must to keep Emma safe and protected.

I’m really loving their dynamic too. I hope they get a lot more scenes together. Maybe I’m imagining it (maybe projecting), but I’m seeing similarities between Hook and Kristoff, in terms of how they interact with Elsa. Elsa seem quite comfortable now around both Hook and Emma – is she seeing Anna and Kristoff in them? – considering last week the thought of new people made Elsa go all ice crazy, now she’s all friendly and seemingly quite content. I find Hook’s way with Elsa quite brotherly too – he stuck up for her when Regina had a go at her for the Snow Monster; they have a lack of technology bond; Hook wasn’t being all flirty with her, his ‘charming pirate’ line was delivered in humour. (I love it when he descends into his cockney accent!) And I would love to see a platonic relationship between a man and woman done well to prove that they can be friends and not everything has to have an underlying sexual tension.

If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness

[ellemo78]

Actually I have a question (might as well ask it here), did Elsa overhear what Hook and Rumple were saying re fake dagger? I know Hook raised his voice to get her attention, but it’s not like it’s a big shop. So would Elsa chat to Emma about what they did/Hook offered to get information from Rumple?

If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness

[surayya]

When ABC gives out spoilers, then I’m fine with them. My problem is when people see the episode in advance and EVERYTHING gets leaked. If they don’t screen any more of the episodes in advance then I’m not too concerned about spoilers, haha.

YES! I mean it’s great these fans get something so special, but it is hard to not to totally spoil yourself for the whole ep 😉

I’m with you @surayya, I’m trying to wean myself off spoilers, but I can’t seem to do it, especially after watching the promo. I totally understand how Rumple can’t give up his magic, hehee

Maybe thats my Rumple is ticking me off so much this season- he.just.wont.give.up.the.spoilers …wait, what?! lol 😛

I’m really loving their dynamic too. I hope they get a lot more scenes together. Maybe I’m imagining it (maybe projecting), but I’m seeing similarities between Hook and Kristoff, in terms of how they interact with Elsa. Elsa seem quite comfortable now around both Hook and Emma – is she seeing Anna and Kristoff in them? – considering last week the thought of new people made Elsa go all ice crazy, now she’s all friendly and seemingly quite content. I find Hook’s way with Elsa quite brotherly too – he stuck up for her when Regina had a go at her for the Snow Monster; they have a lack of technology bond; Hook wasn’t being all flirty with her, his ‘charming pirate’ line was delivered in humour. (I love it when he descends into his cockney accent!) And I would love to see a platonic relationship between a man and woman done well to prove that they can be friends and not everything has to have an underlying sexual tension.

No, I think you are on the money with the similarities between Hook & kristoff in how they interact with Elsa. I love the platonic relationships being formed this season as well & hope we see more Killy & Elsa interaction for just the reason you mention… I think if he still had Tink about, they could have shown it there as well.

[surayya]

Actually I have a question (might as well ask it here), did Elsa overhear what Hook and Rumple were saying re fake dagger? I know Hook raised his voice to get her attention, but it’s not like it’s a big shop. So would Elsa chat to Emma about what they did/Hook offered to get information from Rumple?

I’ve been wondering about that as well…. it could be a Killian hears Emma’s confession, but Neal doesnt hear Killian’s or Henry doesnt hear Pan & Co discussing him & Pan’s evil plans from around the corner of the cave he’s standing in, type of ‘selective’ deafness for story telling purposes, or she heard everything, but Killy had told her to leave him to it because Rumple/DO is dangerous.
Logistically speaking, she had to have overheard everything they said, so I wouldnt be surprised if it did come up between Elsa & Emma IF they werent going for selective deafness at God’s 😉

[surayya]

[surayya]

Close up smoochies in coming 🙂

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