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October 16, 2014 at 6:53 pm #285795
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ParticipantSo I saw a fanfiction prompt on tumblr saying that Emma doesn’t wear Graham’s shoelace and the swan necklace anymore. I don’t think I’ve been paying attention much to notice, so is that really true?
I think (don’t quote me) Emma gave the necklace to Henry in that deleted scene, after the funeral, after the boat trip with Killian, when they were chatting about Neal. I have a feeling she hasn’t worn it since. I don’t know about the shoelace. But that’s easier to hide under long sleeves. But I would have thought it was obvious that if you were dressing up to go out on a date you wouldn’t wear a dirty old shoelace around your wrist (regardless of it’s meaning), or a necklace that reminds you of trust issues with a previous lover.
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October 16, 2014 at 7:02 pm #285796surayya
ParticipantLast pretties for today 🙂
ONE TIME THING.”
http://carmi-believes-in-love.tumblr.com/post/99973239456/captainswaan-a-one-time-thing
Killy & his spider senses 😉This is Why Hook/Killy Didnt “Blackmail” Rumple (I do wish people would pick up a dictionary once in a while!)
Blackmail =
1) the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person.
2) demand money from (a person) in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person.
Killy Did Not Demand Money From Rumple, Therefore He Did Not Blackmail Rumple.
Killian “Made a Deal” with Rumple, the worst he can be accused of doing here is compelling or pushing Rumple into helping him.
Faith means living with uncertainty,
Feeling your way through life,
Letting your heart guide you like a lantern in the darkEveryone I’ve ever been with is dead—
http://itsalostgirlthing.tumblr.com/post/99884869989/everyone-ive-ever-been-with-is-dead
October 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm #285797surayya
ParticipantHow can one dress cause so much discussion!!
Personally, I don’t think Emma is wearing that dress FOR Hook. I mean aside from showing off her cleavage, it isn’t a dress that screams Captain Hook’s girlfriend to me – even in the Enchanted Forest he seemed to prefer her in a different kind of look. BUT, with that said – I think Hook loves Emma in anything and everything. I think Emma just wants to look pretty. Not necessarily FOR Hook but for HERSELF. She wants a chance to be girlie, she never had that. That dress screams girlie – it’s the Storybrooke equivalent of a princess dress. And that is what Emma gets to be for a night – the princess she is. She gets to forget about chasing monsters and remember that she IS a fairy tale princess. No, she doesn’t HAVE to wear a princess dress to be a fairy tale princess but when your life has been about as far away from a fairy tale as possible and you ARE, in fact, a princess why NOT dress the part every now and then?
I mean I love Emma in whatever she wears but it’s nice to see her in something different. I don’t think she HAS to wear a girlie dress to be a princess (I actually prefer Snow’s pearl white pants outfit with the long overcoat thingy that she wears in the EF over anything she has ever worn and it isn’t a traditional princess outfit). But even if she WANTED to wear something FOR Hook, who cares? I’ve been married for 10 years and there have been many times that I have been shopping for an outfit for some function and when I’ve decided what to buy one of the factors HAS been what my husband likes. And sometimes I have decided to go with MY second choice is because I know my husband will like it better and I want him to like what I look like.
There have also been times I’ve tried on a dress and been like “This is so totally NOT something I would normally wear but for some reason I LOVE it” so I get it and it’s fun to be different for a night. Prime example, after Emma wore the black leather dress I saw a faux leather dress and tried it on when I needed a dress for a ballet fund raiser. Surprisingly, I loved it. It was totally not me and shocked me that it actually looked formal enough. I have gotten more compliments on that dress than any other I own. It doesn’t make some shocking statement about me, it doesn’t mean that I am trying to be someone I am not, it doesn’t mean I am out of character when I wear. I means I like the darn dress!!
Re so much discussion about a dress, 1st thing that springs to mind- slightly unhealthy obsession with fictional characters lol 😉
Re everything else you wrote- My thoughts Exactly, so I have nothing to add. Thank you! 🙂October 16, 2014 at 7:12 pm #285798surayya
ParticipantSo I saw a fanfiction prompt on tumblr saying that Emma doesn’t wear Graham’s shoelace and the swan necklace anymore. I don’t think I’ve been paying attention much to notice, so is that really true?
I think (don’t quote me) Emma gave the necklace to Henry in that deleted scene, after the funeral, after the boat trip with Killian, when they were chatting about Neal. I have a feeling she hasn’t worn it since. I don’t know about the shoelace. But that’s easier to hide under long sleeves. But I would have thought it was obvious that if you were dressing up to go out on a date you wouldn’t wear a dirty old shoelace around your wrist (regardless of it’s meaning), or a necklace that reminds you of trust issues with a previous lover.
Oh, yes she did give Henry the necklace. I also agree about the shoelace- bit will see if I can spot it or not tonight either way
October 16, 2014 at 7:16 pm #285799surayya
Participant“The one thing I am good at is surviving.”
Look at the way her expression softens in the first gif into almost a smile. She has just admitted to him that not only does she trust him, but she can’t lose him. She’s in an extremely vulnerable spot in this moment – probably the most vulnerable she has been since captain swan met. So Killian reassures her that it won’t happen. AND LOOK AT HER. It’s exactly the reassurance she needs. In that moment of vulnerability, Killian did the best thing he could do. He made Emma smile instead of cry or want to put her walls back up. He makes her feel happy and safe from the terrible things that have happened to her, and that she’s scared will happen to her again. The words may not fully extinguish her fear even though she trusts him and believes him. But that doesn’t matter, because in this moment of fear and vulnerability, Killian Jones makes Emma Swan happy. And that’s amazing and perfect.
http://emmasneverland.tumblr.com/post/100126000634/captainhand-the-one-thing-i-am-good-at-is
October 16, 2014 at 7:21 pm #285801surayya
ParticipantHowever, along with that trust and adoration comes the haunting fear that fate could take Killian away from her. It’s tastefully revealing that it’s always been safe for Emma to be vulnerable around Killian – through the ceaseless adoration he’s shown, he’s made it easy for her to understand that with him, all of her is welcomed. And for a woman who’s been shunned down in the past, freely being able to address her fears of losing a man only to have him assure her that she never has to worry is wonderfully comforting
October 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm #285802surayya
ParticipantAnother lovely recap (have only included the CS/Emma parts here):
…..Killian is someone who’d do anything to protect Emma — it’s something he happily does not because Emma can’t take care of herself but because she shouldn’t be expected to carry the weight of the world on her shoulder. He doesn’t try to save the savior because she needs saving, but because she deserves it. It’s not that he feels she needs to be taken care of because she can’t handle it herself, but he does these little things to show her that she’s loved and treasured — diamonds are resilient as well, but they’re handled with care not because they’re fragile but because they deserve to be cherished. One person shouldn’t be given the responsibility to save an entire town on their own. One of our favorite things about Once Upon A Time is the fact that it shuns the conception that needing help is a sign of weakness. Snow could’ve taken on the entire kingdom by herself, but she needed Charming to remind her of her worth. Anna’s capable of returning safe from the Enchanted Forest, but she needed someone to not only believe in her strengths but to be there for Elsa just as she would. Although Emma’s capable of “sheriff-ing” on her own, there’s nothing wrong with her father being there with her. There’s nothing wrong with Killian wanting to help her because everyone deserves the kind of partner that’ll reassure and encourage them when it all becomes too much……
We’re going to have to agree with Hook on the whole “why should I carry around this ridiculous thing if you’re never there when I use it.” We’re fairly certain there’s not a single soul in the world that doesn’t know how frustrating it is when someone doesn’t answer the phone when we need them to. The scene offered the perfect comedic relief in an episode that was otherwise heavily focused on taking care of deeper issues than Hook’s dilemmas with a cell phone.
Emma Swan’s life has been anything but simple. No one should have anyone they care for die an untimely death in their arms and it hasn’t just occurred in Emma’s life once, but twice –three times if we consider Walsh. One of Killian’s most beautiful traits is how carefully he listens and takes things into consideration thus, when Elsa told him that Emma’s situation makes it difficult to trust, he takes it upon himself to tell her that even though they’re different, it’s safe to trust him. But what he doesn’t realize is that, Emma’s learned to trust him long ago and the issue at hand is that anytime she’s opened her heart to love, she’s either been betrayed or they’ve left her too soon thus instilling the horrifying fear in her that she’ll lose everyone she cares for. Because she’s been an orphan for nearly three decades, belittled and betrayed more times than not, subconsciously it’s forced her to believe that a happy ending isn’t in the cards for her. And for the first time in a very long time, Emma Swan trusts someone other than herself with her heart. It’s the kind of trust however that’s stemmed so deep within her, it’d destroy her to lose him. While in “A Tale of Two Sisters” her magic wasn’t powerful enough to take down the Snow Monster, with Killian’s life on the line, her magic, which came effortlessly to her this time, was powerful enough to save Killian’s life and knock the Snow Queen down. While she’s not fully in control of it, it says a great deal about Killian’s place in her life since magic tends to come easier to her because of the faith he’s shown in her.
However, along with that trust and adoration comes the haunting fear that fate could take Killian away from her. It’s tastefully revealing that it’s always been safe for Emma to be vulnerable around Killian – through the ceaseless adoration he’s shown, he’s made it easy for her to understand that with him, all of her is welcomed. And for a woman who’s been shunned down in the past, freely being able to address her fears of losing a man only to have him assure her that she never has to worry is wonderfully comforting.
Morrison has an indescribable way of making the audience feel each and every one of Emma’s emotions. Through her breathlessly, tearful line deliveries and childlike expressiveness, we could not only see how afraid Emma is of losing Killian, but even without having gone through the heartbreaking losses she’s seen, you could feel the depths of her pain entirely from Morrison’s astounding performances. One of Emma’s most admirable traits is the fact that despite how broken she may have been, she’s never been afraid of being vulnerable – she hasn’t allowed her heart to grow cold; though her walls have been up, she’s remained compassionate. And what this means for Emma Swan, the woman, is that she’s finally at a place in her life where there’s someone she values as her equal — someone she cannot bear to lose because of how much she wholeheartedly cares for him. In the past when Emma’s ran from him, it wasn’t because she didn’t care for him, it was because deep down, she felt that they were kindred spirits and that not only meant opening up, but it meant it could potentially be lost. Just as Morrison’s performance showcased how deeply Emma cares, O’Donoghue’s poised and enamored delivery of the lines “you don’t have to worry about me. If there’s one thing I’m good at it, it’s surviving,” is precisely what Emma needed to hear in that situation. Killian’s confidence in the manner is what she needs to be reassured of the fact that just as he’s done so in the past, he’d do anything and everything he can to be by her side. And we love that once he saw a faint smile forming on her face, for the first time, he felt confident enough to initiate a kiss himself. He embraced her welcoming expression and kissed her in a way that felt like a promise — each of their kisses different and more passionate than the last have always meant something beautiful for this duo. Killian initiating the kiss after a heartbreaking reveal was his way of showing Emma that he’s not going anywhere, that his love for her goes deeper than anything he’s felt before.
http://mgcircles.com/post/99887414556/once-upon-a-time-4×03-rocky-road-recap
October 16, 2014 at 8:46 pm #285806Epona_610
ParticipantAll of the dress “controversy” is weird to me–I’m not much of a fashion person, so the fact that I even noticed that it’s different from what she’s worn on previous dates is surprising in and of itself, haha. (I’m a language person; if I overanalyze something in an episode it usually has to do with that.) I mean, we all know it’s way more about with whom Emma is going out rather than what she’s wearing. 😛
October 16, 2014 at 9:28 pm #285808surayya
ParticipantAll of the dress “controversy” is weird to me–I’m not much of a fashion person, so the fact that I even noticed that it’s different from what she’s worn on previous dates is surprising in and of itself, haha. (I’m a language person; if I overanalyze something in an episode it usually has to do with that.) I mean, we all know it’s way more about with whom Emma is going out rather than what she’s wearing.
I dont get the controversy either- I do like reading peoples thoughts on the whys, because we not get that spelt out to us on show (although it might have been spelt out in the interview Jen & Colin gave, I dont know) 😉
I’m with you on the fashion thing (I’m a jeans & t-shirt kinda gal), although I do like to look nice on the rare occasion I date, so I seriously wish there was a less tedious way to find clothes that a) look good on & b) have them all in the same place lol 😉
It’s weird the “whom” hasnt copped as much flack as the dress to be honest, its a nice, but weird change 😛October 16, 2014 at 10:33 pm #285810obisgirl
ParticipantSo I saw a fanfiction prompt on tumblr saying that Emma doesn’t wear Graham’s shoelace and the swan necklace anymore. I don’t think I’ve been paying attention much to notice, so is that really true?
I think (don’t quote me) Emma gave the necklace to Henry in that deleted scene, after the funeral, after the boat trip with Killian, when they were chatting about Neal. I have a feeling she hasn’t worn it since. I don’t know about the shoelace. But that’s easier to hide under long sleeves. But I would have thought it was obvious that if you were dressing up to go out on a date you wouldn’t wear a dirty old shoelace around your wrist (regardless of it’s meaning), or a necklace that reminds you of trust issues with a previous lover.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I mean, we all know it’s way more about with whom Emma is going out rather than what she’s wearing.
That is most likely the case.
But it still bothers me to hear Oncers group Emma as this one type of person. I remember having this debate when the original promo pictures for season three came out, then again after the season three finale. How dare Emma be feminine, even though she is indeed a woman? It’s ridiculous, and you know, I notice, how we rarely have this discussion in regard to Regina or anyone else for that matter.
Emma Swan is a very multifaceted, complicated woman and she can have different layers to her. It doesn’t make her weak to show her feminine side every once in awhile. Falling in love doesn’t make you weak either, especially when love is strength. Not weakness.
Aside from Rumple’s shenanigans and lying to Belle, I’m really enjoying the season so far.
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