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June 3, 2013 at 9:30 pm #197119
obisgirl
ParticipantJasminegirl84, are you jasmin1401 on tumblr ❓ 😆 😆
[adrotate group="5"]June 6, 2013 at 2:20 pm #197399obisgirl
ParticipantThis CS fan art post is LONG overdue. Seriously. But here it is. Finally.
June 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm #197432jasminegirl84
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Jasminegirl84, are you jasmin1401 on tumblr ❓ 😆 😆
I just recently joined it and I’m dork84 actually 😆 . I need to follow you!
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
June 6, 2013 at 7:12 pm #197434obisgirl
ParticipantOk. I had a feeling it was you, but I wasn’t sure. 😆
June 7, 2013 at 7:17 pm #197481jasminegirl84
Participant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* Emma was introduced to him as Killian Jones but then he said she might be more familiar with his other name and she’s called him Hook since – I think this is partially a way of her keeping him at arm’s lengths because Killian is the kinder side that she keeps wanting to believe in but is afraid to. It’s easier for her to call him Hook (as most people do) for now, but I think down the line it’ll be very significant if she ever calls him Killian (which I think she will)
I agree with you, Kat. It is a way to keep him at arm’s length, in addition to the other tactics she uses to keep him at bay (most of which fail 😆 ). It will be monumental for CSers to hear her say Killian and his reaction to it will be nothing short of priceless. No on has called him Killian and to hear it from Emma’s mouth first would be fantabulous.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* There’s been lots of speculation as to the name of Killian Jones and I am definitely looking forward to more backstory for him (*please be a farm boy – paralleling to Charming and giving us a bit more of that Westley side too. Pretty please??* – wouldn’t mind connections to William Turner either though 😉 )
I would love to see him have a modest background despite what the literature presents. However, it would also be great to see him have a more elite education than he lets on.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* As for the other names, I think in SB, SB names are mostly used – you’re seeing people you remember calling __ for “as long as you can remember” and especially the last year or so before the curse was broken and you’re walking around in Maine, wearing normal everyday clothes. I think also part of it is done for Henry’s sake – he knows MM & David, and while he calls Charming “Gramps” most of the time (too cute!), Charming tends to refer to Snow as MM, especially when talking to Henry. That’s who he knows them as and again, they’re in the SB environment. I’m hopeful that if they go back to FTL, or maybe potentially even in NL (probably depends on any history there could be with it, who may or may not know them etc), they will switch back to the names that they originally had (especially now that Emma has called them “Mom” & “Dad” – before she kept calling them, especially MM, by the name she knew her as as a friend, she didn’t *know* Snow). I’m trying to remember what Snow did in present-day FTL – Aurora & Mulan only have the one option for names, but what did they know Snow as? (I need to do my rewatch but I feel like in FTL, the name Snow holds a lot more weight so eventually if they go back, Snow will once again be Snow so people know who she is and not to mess with her)
The naming gets quite complicated and messy. As long as it is consistent, I’m down with anything lol.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* I think Hook kept the bean necklace a secret as anything other than a souvenier until he got to Lake Nostos and found out its powers. I know he waved it in front of Emma in the jail cell (*cough* fairy dust necklace *cough* oh hello Snowing!) but Cora was completely clueless about why he needed it so this was clearly a Hook thing. Had he not needed Cora, he may have been able to just jump in with the girls but Emma knocking him out nixed that plan. The fact that he knew instantly what the backup would be tells me this is a possibility (and one of the main reasons I strongly believe he wasn’t really trying all that hard and was a bit amused in the swordfight, because he had a backup all along but only if necessary).
It’s hard to tell what his original intent was, but I think it was a combo of keeping it as a souvenir and as a back-up plan. Pirates always have tricks up their sleeves, and Hook has demonstrated that he always keeps a back-up plan. He deliberately hid the bean in the other hand when Rumple chopped his hand off. He hid the bean somewhere else, not the pouch in present apocalyptic SB, etc.
* Something that was pointed out to me on tumblr last night and helps with the Charming / Hook parallels!: THE POUCHES. Charming’s pouch that contained Snowing’s symbol (Ruth’s ring) was shown in the carriage and is a very similar shape (though different color) to the one they focused on in the finale that Hook wears and contained the CaptainSwan symbol: the bean. These guys are more alike than they want to admit!
Nice. I like that. Bring on the pouches!!!!
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I need to rewatch the scene again but in Tallahassee when Neal offers to settle down and hang up the thieving, I coulda sworn that Emma said “really?” in a weird way and *then* let herself get wrapped up in the idea of him not leaving her. Soon after we saw that dream of Tallahassee put into place, he was planning on sacrificing everything to go to Canada without her which made her panic and step in for him which resulted in everything else. I felt like she was more attached to the dream / idea of it, than the actual thing. Either that or she was just super surprised by him not wanting to steal stuff anymore but I felt like something was off in that moment with her initial reaction to it. Plus her flippantly saying “like where, Neverland?” – it sounded like she didn’t really believe they could do it – did anybody else feel this way about this scene when first watching (CS goggles off and try to remember cause this was before we fell head over heels for Hook).
I felt she wasn’t fully invested in the idea at first because of Neal’s thieving ways. She desperately wanted a home and a shadow of an idea would suffice because she wants to be part of something permanent. She has been a nomad and a loner (*coughcough Hook coughcough*) most of her life. She eventually believed that Neal meant it as the plan for escape progressed with the watches. There has to be a reason why Emma decided to go to Tallahassee after she was out of jail. I hope they address that later on, at least in a flashback or a conversation. She stayed there for two years. It’s a significant part of her life.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* I hope we get the team split up a little in NL so that Hook & Emma get more interaction without others around so that she can see the real him. He’s not very open when others can see it (yet) but Emma gets to him and I think adventures in NL would be fun.
Yes, yes, yes! I want them to go on adventures. I feel like S3 will be a movie marathon for us with the adventures they will be going on and I can’t wait to see how the writers and all of the OUAT staff visualize NL. I bet it’s great!
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
June 7, 2013 at 7:51 pm #197483MysteryKat25
ParticipantThanks Jasminegirl!
You reminded me of this fun twitter convo between Keegan (Blue Fairy) & Colin:
The answer she was looking for I believe is Eton if I am not mistaken. So Hook does have a good background (and also plays piano!) – it’ll definitely be interesting to see what they do with Hook’s background in general but this is what came to mind just now.
Another thing I wanted to point out that just came to mind (and I really need to make a graphic of it once season 2 hits Netflix so I can get pretty screenshots of Hook!):
* Right before Graham dies *sniff* he thanks Emma for helping him remember & “feel something”
* Hook’s first line to Emma was “Thank you” and at the end of 2×22, says “Maybe I just needed reminding that I could” [care about something other than myself – aka, feel something about someone else *cough*]So she helped both of them “remember” who they really are / really want to be (cause we know that deep down, under the facade, Hook is just as capable of epic love as anyone else!). So many CaptainSwan/Gremma feels but I think one helps set up the other down the line for sure.
Something else I thought of late last night? SNOW PUSHING CHARMING AWAY. She did this a couple of times, once as Snow and again as MM.
* Snow wants to keep Charming safe so lies to him about her feelings and walks away, eventually results in using the potion from Rumplestiltskin to forget about him completely even though she does truly love him.
We saw similar behavior in a away from Emma with Graham because she was actively trying to just walk away from the diner and not even talk to Graham at all once the Regina thing came to light – she wanted out of there and to block everything out because it hurt too much to think about – and this was just last year so very much post-Neal, whereas with Neal she does confront him about stuff. She’s angry, she wants answers, she wants closure on what went down. Who is the only other person besides Graham we’ve seen her push away and not want to feel something for but clearly she has a connection to in some way? HOOK
* MM tells David the reason that she changed her coffee time is because “I was trying not to see you.”
This is very much like Emma pushing Graham away and not wanting to talk about any of it because it too painful vs again, the confronting Neal thing and wanting answers – there’s a difference between angry!Emma & emotional!Emma – one wants answers and will do whatever it takes, the other can’t deal with even people she cares about because she needs time to process because it affects her more, a la her reunion with Snowing at the beginning of Season 2 – hmm, which one goes with Hook I wonder…oh wait, that would be emotional!Emma pushing him away…just like Snow…
Both times we know that they’re meant to be together but with Emma not being set in stone, we’re watching her story play out in a different way and in real time. She’s the one character we can do that with and literally see every step of the journey in order (another reason I feel strongly that she’ll end up with Hook and not Neal since their relationships were played out in highlight reels similar to Milah/Hook, Milah/Rumple etc).
Emma’s a great combo of her parents and Snow (as both Snow & MM) trying to push Charming away and keep him at arm’s length parallels nicely with CaptainSwan and I think will more perfectly parallel later on if she ever admits out loud that she’s actually trying not to feel something for him, especially if that results in a kiss right after as it did with MM & David!
Right now the *idea* parallels and the closest we get to what MM/Snow did would be the locking Hook up on the beanstalk but Snow left Charming to King George & Abigail so it’s a little different. Still, it has the *potential* to actually parallel in the future (cause you know Emma won’t just give in to it, especially since the last time she tried to let someone in, the guy died in her arms *sobs* – parallels to Millian = bonding for CS hopefully but still, Emma’s going to fight it & it’s a good opportunity for a Snowing parallel – and hopefully for Snow to realize all of this which will then a) help her come around to the idea of Emma with Hook and b) Mother/Daughter bonding!)
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
June 7, 2013 at 8:28 pm #197487obisgirl
ParticipantHey guys,
I started posting a new Captain Swan AU fanfic.
I made the pretty cover art and even made a family tree art 😆 😆 And it has an accompanying fanmix too.
I have too much time on my hands. 🙄 It’s really sad. 😆 😆 😆
June 8, 2013 at 2:48 am #197496Killian Jones
ParticipantJust posted Chapter 4 of my fanfic, hope my fellow shipmate enjoy it 🙂
Captain Swan: The Pirate Chapter 4: “A Moment of Transparency”
Regina uses her magical powers to find Henry’s trail on the island. Hook and Mary Margaret come to an understanding about his feelings for Emma.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9313469/4/Captain-Swan-The-Pirate
June 8, 2013 at 3:39 am #197499jasminegirl84
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Hey guys,
I started posting a new Captain Swan AU fanfic.
I made the pretty cover art and even made a family tree art 😆 😆 And it has an accompanying fanmix too.
I have too much time on my hands. 🙄 It’s really sad. 😆 😆 😆
Gorgeous pics, obis! As always 😀 So many fics, so little time! I have a plot bunny in my head for a one-shot that I haven’t had a chance to write on paper (or on the screen) because of life. *le sigh*
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
* Right before Graham dies *sniff* he thanks Emma for helping him remember & “feel something”
* Hook’s first line to Emma was “Thank you” and at the end of 2×22, says “Maybe I just needed reminding that I could” [care about something other than myself – aka, feel something about someone else *cough*]Yeah, I remember reading the “thank you” parallel on tumblr. Some critics of CS say that he came back because of Baelfire, but seriously? The way he looks at Emma when he gives her the bean says otherwise. It’s a mix of both and I think that is an interesting mix of people who motivate him. He is motivated by his “adopted son,” Emma’s ex, and also the father of the child he is searching for, and by his TL, Emma. Interesting indeed.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
The answer she was looking for I believe is Eton if I am not mistaken. So Hook does have a good background (and also plays piano!) – it’ll definitely be interesting to see what they do with Hook’s background in general but this is what came to mind just now.
I remember that tweet! I thought it was cute that Colin actually responded and helped her out. He clearly has done his hw, but I wouldn’t have expected anything less from him.
Regardless of what background the writers carve out for him, it will be good.
As far as pushing people away, Emma has a black belt in it. I feel her pushing away will have different reasonings at different times depending on when Hook decides to ruffle up her feathers.
Kat, I love what you said:
@MysteryKat25 wrote:but with Emma not being set in stone, we’re watching her story play out in a different way and in real time. She’s the one character we can do that with and literally see every step of the journey in order (another reason I feel strongly that she’ll end up with Hook and not Neal since their relationships were played out in highlight reels similar to Milah/Hook, Milah/Rumple etc).
If he pushes her too soon, he risks losing Emma’s chance of being open to him because the walls will be up, stronger than ever. If he does it later, after Emma has processed Neal’s “passing” then we might see some sparks, with Emma playfully nudging him away.
So many different possibilities because of the different colors Emma shows in different settings! I love how complex these OUAT characters are. Essentially, I am drawn to writing that focuses on the characters and their complexities and developments along the way. I think that is why this show has become my most favorite series so far.
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Just posted Chapter 4 of my fanfic, hope my fellow shipmate enjoy it 🙂
Captain Swan: The Pirate Chapter 4: “A Moment of Transparency”
Regina uses her magical powers to find Henry’s trail on the island. Hook and Mary Margaret come to an understanding about his feelings for Emma.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9313469/4/Captain-Swan-The-Pirate
You’re on a roll, dude! I need to pick up the slack in my reading! I will read again from the beginning to appreciate your writing. I like doing that fanfics to keep the continuity going!
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
June 8, 2013 at 4:24 am #197501Killian Jones
ParticipantThanks! I’m really glad to hear that you’re enjoying my story. I’m working hard on the next chapter already and I’ll post up the next one when I finish 🙂
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