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October 23, 2014 at 4:17 pm #287098
lumee23
ParticipantGreat meta Obisgirl! I really liked this part:
It’s also interesting to note when Hook showed up at the loft to pick up Emma, the first thing she noticed was how he was dressed and didn’t spot the hand until Mary Margaret noticed it. I think this also shows a level of comfortability; that the hook, regardless if Killian has it or not, she accepts it as a part of him. – See more at: http://obisgirl.tumblr.com/post/100678266102/its-difficult-to-write-a-meta-now-three-days
The hook really doesn’t seem to bother Emma. The fact that he had his hook back the next day seemed to be glossed over like it was no big deal. I also really liked that you pointed out that he was willing to lose his hand (again) in order to still be the man that he thinks Emma deserves.
[adrotate group="5"]October 23, 2014 at 6:39 pm #287106Jennifer
ParticipantI also LOVED how it was Emma who closed the distance between them in the sheriffs office, by being the one to step into Killian’s personal space, that to me was probably the most understated show of character development I’ve seen for her yet. I mean, that was a huge step for Emma, to be the one instigating that closeness/lack of distance between them for a second time (1st being when she closed the distance between them outside Snowing’s ), but this time in public- in full view of Will, Elsa & Charming- That wall she built to keep people out, Killian is now totally inside it now
Yes… its so cute how she closes the space looking up at him sweetly… which come on who has used that word to describe Emma? lol. That’s why I think the pink girlie dress was perfect for this Emma. And while I cannot say one think bad on how Emma worked the Walsh proposal dress I think the CS 1st date was perfect for her first date with Killian
October 23, 2014 at 6:51 pm #287109Jennifer
ParticipantOk. As much I’ve loved CS date, and the episode overall, there are some things that I did not like. 1. Killian questioning Emmas suspicions regardibg the puddle under her car. OOC for me. He could have just asked to drop it without asking what it proves. 2. Rumple- I’ve thought he was just a little bit reformed. A tinny, tinny bit. 3. The whole blackmailing making and deal- I ‘ve thught Killian is smarter than that. My fear is that he won’t come clean with Emma in 2-3 episodes and it will be dragged alt lis till the end of 4a . Colin has not been seen on set with Jen recently. And that big scene had been filmed without him I’ve thought that Once was better than that. I don’t know. My husband is annoyed. He’ s not as big fan as I am, but Hook is his favorite character.
Agreed Lady… its odd that Killian didnt instantly jump at the puddle statement. He is not dense so an out of place puddle that just appeared should rightly ring alarms. I read somewhere that he might just be so worried about getting off topic and making their date a work dinner. So I can accept that theory.
But yes – Hook should have really known better about trying to blackmail Rumple twice… and if he was that desperate and determined he needed to go in with a better plan and more on guard. Because he KNOWs Rumple / DO’s history as a Major Mind Manipulator.
I’m afraid he is going to hold this close to the vest too… try and fix it himself… which will bite him in the a**. I really hope he goes to Charming at least and comes clean and they can try to work it out. Someone has suggested Killian go as a spy… i like that idea. As long as the Sheriffs department is on board.
Your husband has some good taste! lol
October 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm #287110ellemo78
ParticipantCongrats on the new addition, lumee! 😀
Is it true that Colin hasn’t been seen filming with Emma lately? I have been trying to avoid spoilers this time around but now I am paranoid
I’ve read a couple rumours about that too. I’m not sure to read too much into it. But it did make me think that perhaps the reason we’re getting a lot of juicy CS action so early on in the season is to set up the relationship for a fall/major obstacle.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
October 23, 2014 at 7:04 pm #287112Jennifer
ParticipantSpeaking of the Sheriffs department : Killian is always working with Emma and Charming and seems to be of worth and not just tagging along as an observer. Maybe its time they hire him. They obviously need another person with all the magical nonsense that happens in that town. And then at least he makes some money instead of his criminal justice internship at the SBPD.
Sorry – I cant seem to find the entry I was looking for to quote. Regarding his hand… I think A&E were trying for the double bluff but there was a good point raised. Killian is a righty. He uses the hook but the muscle memory wouldnt be a punch… it would be an arc. so it is really strange that he would so quickly jump to making his left the dominate hand.
Now Rumples explanation about the thought of the hand being ‘tainted’ from his old life and how that gave Killian permission / an excuse to channel is inner Hook makes a little sense in theory. But not so immediate and with such force. Killian has worked so hard to be different and the things he does has been genuine. If those good deeds / actions are indeed genuine then his first impluse wouldnt be to unleash a left handed Hook in such a level of over reaction. It also doesnt make sense since the hand that was lopped off was that of a troubled greedy pirate but not the hate filled, revenge driven, at the bottom of his rum bottle totally cold hearted Captain Hook.
To support the actions we saw play out i think A&E should have confirmed the hand was magicked.
October 23, 2014 at 7:29 pm #287116ellemo78
ParticipantTo support the actions we saw play out i think A&E should have confirmed the hand was magicked.
I quite like the fact that it’s ambiguous. It’s given us a nice little discussion point. I’m still plumping for the double bluff theory, pretty much for all the reasons you said.
The other reason I think the hand *was* cursed, is that when they were at the Apprentice’s house, Rumple ordered Hook to rough up the old man and Hook didn’t have any hesitation, he just went all ‘grr’ and did it. The old man hadn’t done anything to Hook, so if the hand *wasn’t* curse, why would Hook be so eager to hurt him? The other instances were Hook grabbing Will b/c he spilled the drink on Emma, punching Will b/c Will shoved Hook off him and stabbing Rumple for obvious reasons. All those other times he stopped himself from being all ‘grr’ and was scared by what his hand did but against the old man it was Rumple says jump and Hook jumped. I don’t think his actions were just b/c Hook wanted to fulfil the deal.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
October 24, 2014 at 10:45 am #287149obisgirl
ParticipantRumple was playing mind games with Hook you guys. Hook had no way of knowing if his hand was actually cursed or not.
I wrote a lengthy/ranty meta about this.
October 24, 2014 at 7:36 pm #287273surayya
ParticipantUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! Everything I posted yesterday & came up as having posted is gone WTH?!?!?!?! Dang it, that sucks- I cant even remember most of what I wrote now either (it was a loooooooooong day yesterday) 🙁 ARGH! *sigh*
October 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm #287274surayya
ParticipantRumple was playing mind games with Hook you guys. Hook had no way of knowing if his hand was actually cursed or not. I wrote a lengthy/ranty meta about this.
I’ll respond to this before I have to leave & then spend most the day trying to remember at least some of what I wrote at like 1:30am after a long, physically full on day … Dagnabbit!!!!
Agree with every thing you said there obisgirl, if i wasnt so ticked off at this site right now, I’d probably be able to cobble together more than that as a response, but all I;ve got right now is ‘agreed’.
October 24, 2014 at 8:33 pm #287276ellemo78
ParticipantUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! Everything I posted yesterday & came up as having posted is gone WTH?!?!?!?! Dang it, that sucks- I cant even remember most of what I wrote now either (it was a loooooooooong day yesterday)
ARGH! *sigh*
I didn’t think I was crazy thinking a lot of stuff had gone missing. I still have the notification emails which at least have the text, if not gifs, of what you wrote. I can forward them to you or cut and paste them for you?
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