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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • October 26, 2014 at 3:24 am #287397
    surayya
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    I think the angst will be ok though…as much as I’ve loved the first eps of the season, let’s be honest – we’d get kinda bored…eventually! As long as they don’t do the break up, will they-won’t they junk I’ll be ok with the angst. I hate the break up stuff….it’s a way for writers to be lazy while trying to keep the relationship interesting. So if it’s more them trying to figure themselves, and their relationship, out, angst away!

    It looks like the posts are working now…well, the vids and links at least.

    Oh, I’m all on board for the angst train (although it’d take a loooooooonnnnnnnnng while for CS to get boring un angst for me lol They have to much sass for it to be less than entertaining 😉 ), I have no problems with it at all tbh…. will they kill me dead when we hit angst central- most likely, will I enjoy every second of- hell yeah! 😉 lol

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    October 26, 2014 at 3:33 am #287398
    surayya
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    I agree @jenna_b . I hate the they break-up, then they get back together, then they break-up again routine. I mean, do you know how much my soaps abuse the break-up scenario and with the same couple too? Plus, with all the heart break Emma has gone through, I don’t want to see her and Hook break-up. And break-ups on this show don’t really last long anyway. Rumbelle have broken up like 2 two times and didn’t spend much time apart both times but still…I don’t want to see Captain Swan go through that.

    Agreed! 100% Agree! I cant see them destroying Emma’s happiness again after she’s just learnt to open up & trust in love again.

    October 26, 2014 at 3:56 am #287400
    surayya
    Participant

    More pretties incoming- less than 24hrs to go until Once!

     

    http://emmafoundtallahassee.tumblr.com/post/100767679056

            

    Killing us with their cuteness

    https://www.tumblr.com/killiansdevotedheart/100688834479

     

     

          
    #rassuring the hubby (。♥‿♥。)

    http://colinodonorgasm.tumblr.com/post/100758424569/rassuring-the-hubby

     

     

              

    2×05 & 4×04

    https://www.tumblr.com/dream-site/100787290924/first-meet-first-date

     

              

    http://a-duckling-and-a-swan.tumblr.com/post/100812565598/im-here-to-ask-y-o-u-out-will-you-go-out-with

     

            

    Let us all welcome Momma Snow aboard our ship.

    http://oncepromised.tumblr.com/post/100601973881/let-us-all-welcome-momma-snow-aboard-our-ship

    October 26, 2014 at 4:06 am #287401
    surayya
    Participant

    http://routin-e.tumblr.com/post/100789445156

        

    http://lieutenantsmoak.tumblr.com/post/100518305188/when-youre-at-your-worst

     

            
    Killian Jones + Supporting Emma/Describing Emma
    http://thejeweloftherealm.tumblr.com/post/100777612713/killian-jones-supporting-emma-describing-emma

     

    Just the way Killian looks at Emma, with complete adoration, and these two little unconcious smiles he does while admiring her

    https://www.tumblr.com/fuckstruckswan/100850545458/just-the-way-killian-looks-at-emma-with-complete

     

    https://www.tumblr.com/captainswantruelove/100972124115

     

          

    You’re out of your depth, pirate.

    http://ivernasolo.tumblr.com/post/100543860882/youre-out-of-your-depth-pirate

    October 26, 2014 at 4:19 am #287402
    surayya
    Participant

    I thought this was interesting…

    I can’t help it, parallelism is my favorite thing, and I like pictures. Now that I’ve gotten a bit of distance on the episode, I’m excited about this plot. The first thing to get out of the way is that the echo of Zelena is window dressing; the parallel is “The Crocodile.” This time they’re taking more than one episode to draw it out, because Hook’s an established character and they can spend the time, but the pattern is exactly the same.
    You have the initial encounter between Rumple and Killian, in which Killian is behaving dubiously at best.


    Rumple folds.

    Repeat encounter. Killian gets cocky.

    Now! If they had any plan to redeem Rumple at this point and to chasten Killian, this would have been the place for the stories to diverge. Rumple would have actually put the dagger back, called Killian’s bluff, and said, “There, made you look stupid; how about we stop the bull*poop* games and content ourselves with mutual loathing.”
    Instead we continue with the parallel. Rumple turns the tables.


    Remember that in the top picture of that set, that is Killian’s sword Rumple is holding.
    Right now, we are pretty much here:

    Killian is wondering wtf happened to his life, which was going so well twelve hours ago, and Rumple thinks that he’s won.
    Keep in mind, however, what ultimately happened last time.


    Rumple wanted the bean so he could get to Baelfire. He lost out on that, and it was entirely due to him being a sadistic son of a *gun*. Right now he is ignoring his own advice to “finish the job when he had the chance.” He wants the hat, he wants to keep his power and his happy ending, but he also wants Killian to suffer.
    At the end of this, he won’t have any of it.


    That story had one other large plot repercussion: it created Captain Hook.

    I’ve talked some before about Killian’s turning points. In the first iteration of this story, he didn’t have much choice. Some scaly *gluteus*hole murders your girlfriend, “track him down and murder him back” is an entirely legit response in most fantasy universes. What else was he supposed to do, sail off with a shrug and a “wow, that really sucked”?
    This time around, because of all of the work that went into his character in S3, he’s got options. He’s got help available, and once he settles out of panic mode that will come into play. His Frozen counterpart is Anna of all people, the dictionary definition of optimism. There may be further unpleasantness first — he’s not much more used to this trust stuff than Emma is — but whatever happens at the end of this arc, it’s going to solidify Killian’s identity in a positive fashion, just the way the last time did it in a negative.

    one.http://thisisevenharderthannamingablog.tumblr.com/post/100580209597/i-cant-help-it-parallelism-is-my-favorite-thing
    ** contain edited words for small eyes purposes 🙂

    October 26, 2014 at 4:49 am #287403
    surayya
    Participant

    Because Emma didn’t have to run her hands over his. She could just have easily linked their fingers together. But this is Emma, walls down and trying to express how she feels without saying anything, yet at the same time reassuring Killian with those two words. Because she doesn’t want him to beat himself up about it, and at the same time she’s silently trying to tell him just how much he means to her and how much the entire evening meant to her. After all, he managed to make her forget about their impending doom, which is not something so easily accomplished. “What I thought I could have, was not in the cards for the saviour.” Is something Emma said, in several variations throughout the season. But here is Killian, the pirate she started out wanting to hate, making her forget about everything going on and allowing her to believe that she can have a happy ending. That it is in the cards for the saviour. This is Emma, silently telling Killian, the man she’s slowly falling for, that she wants this. That she wants him. That this can happen. And its the most beautiful thing in existence.

    http://captainhand-andthesaviour.tumblr.com/post/100850923324/okay-i-want-to-talk-about-this-gif-here-gif-not

    October 26, 2014 at 5:08 am #287404
    surayya
    Participant

    once_aprprentice

    By: Marianne Paluso (@Marianne_P81)
    It is remarkable how Once Upon a Time seems to be getting better and better and The Apprentice was another stellar episode in this first half of season 4, balancing sweetness and happiness with darkness and heartache. The subplots involving Henry, Regina, Will Scarlet, and the Snow Queen were all engaging, especially Henry who brings out his cunning side to go under cover and become Gold’s apprentice. But it was the main storylines I found the most entertaining. In the Enchanted Forest of the past, we see Anna strike a deal with Rumple. Anna agrees to give an old man, the sorcerer’s apprentice, a potion in exchange for answers about her parents. Fearing it is poison, Anna can’t bring herself to do it. But she is horrified to learn it was all a trick and that the concoction was actually an antidote for the poison he was given the day before. The apprentice is then turned into a mouse (shall we call him Mickey?). But in truth, Rumple needed more: a tear from someone who has faced their inner darkness and turned away. Initially it did not happen with the old man, but when she is tempted to stab Rumple to escape captivity, his plan is fulfilled and he obtains the sorcerer’s very powerful hat which collects magic and could allow Rumple to keep his Dark One power but no longer be under the dagger’s control. Luckily for Anna, the mouse saves the day, biting Rumple and allowing her to gain his dagger and the sorcerer’s hat. She orders Rumple to send her home where she is happily reunited with Kristoff. This story not only revealed many significant things, but also was an obvious parallel to what happens between Hook and Gold in the present. Anna tells Rumple he is a monster to use something as precious as Love as a weapon. And that is exactly what he does with Hook/Killian.

    After Emma asks Killian out on a date, he goes to Gold to strike another deal: he’ll continue to keep quiet about the dagger if Gold reattaches his hand. The reason why is if his date goes well and Emma wants him to hold her, he wants to be able to use both hands. This phrasing is quite moving. He simply wants to be able to embrace Emma with two hands, a gesture anyone would want to do with the one they love. Importantly, every time we’ve seen him and Emma kiss, his one hand has expressed the immensity of that desire. Cradling her head, running his fingers through her hair, caressing her chin, holding onto her tightly – all of these gestures showcase how touching and understandable his wish to be able to show this affection with two hands truly is. This desire is so strong, it clouds his better judgment and he ignores Gold’s warning that reuniting him with the hand from his old self that was violent and selfish with the very much changed man he is now could have horrible consequences. Killian doesn’t believe him and leaves to plan his evening out, but this was far from over. It is apropos to still call Gold “Crocodile” as he remains cool and quiet under the surface but ready to strike with a sharp bite at any moment.

    But the real moment that has been two seasons in the making had finally arrived. Not only were Emma and Killian going on their first date, but Captain Hook finally embraced being a part of this small town as Killian Jones by changing his clothes – at last! And he looked as dashing as ever, still in a leather jacket, but donning a decidedly modern look. Emma also wore something that exposed another side to her. The soft pink dress she wears for her date reflected the more open, softer Emma who has found someone special that makes her feel loved and safe. It was sweet to see how awestruck they were with how stunning the other looked, so much so on Emma’s part that she literally steps back and doesn’t initially notice the hand offering her a red rose wasn’t there before. Snow and Charming also win all the awards for most adorable parents, as Mama Snow is all smiles and excitement, taking pictures of her little girl as if she’s going to a ball, and Daddy Charming is all sternness and protectiveness. In true parent form, they wait up for her, Snow wanting to know all the details, Charming less than enthusiastic, but both simply want their daughter to be happy. And if there is one word to describe Emma and Killian’s date it would be happy.

    Their lovely night consisted of smiles, flirtations, hand holding, and a natural ease that showcased how perfectly they fit together. The hand holding was most especially beautiful as Killian was finally able to do so with both hands. And despite being interrupted by Will who spills a glass of wine on Emma to which Killian grabs him, and then worries about this adverse reaction, their date goes immensely well. He walks her home, Emma wearing his jacket. And has a leather jacket ever looked so good on her? He apologized for his reaction to Will, but she reassures him it’s fine, closing the gap between them and intertwining their fingers together. She invites him in but they both laugh at the crowded quarters inside, and she discerns she needs her own place – something she incidentally says three times during the episode. He smiles as he looks down at his left hand holding her right one, still elated he is able to do so, and he quietly asks her out for another date. She says yes with a beautiful look in her eyes and for the first time they both lean in and kiss each other passionately, lovingly, and happily. And then Killian is able to do what he so deeply longed for – hold her in his arms with both hands. The emphasis put on these moments was meant to expose what this means for them both, but especially for Killian. As they pull apart, Emma is breathless and smiles sweetly as she says goodnight. Once inside, you can see her take a deep breath and express a moment of realization of how deeply she is falling in love. She is happy.

    What is heartbreaking is that for Killian, his happiness is short-lived as he fears that his hand is cursed, solidified when he encounters Will and punches him. He asks Gold for his hook back, for he is not willing to risk hurting someone, especially, god forbid Emma, or someone else he cares about. But little did Killian know what master manipulator Rumple had in store for him. Getting him to agree to a deal without knowing the terms, he gets Hook to help trap the old apprentice in the hat, and then blackmail him further with a surveillance video of the incident, conveniently doctored to make Killian appear to be the only culpable one. He essentially enslaves Killian to do his bidding, and reveals that it was all for naught. His hand wasn’t cursed after all. Those reactions were his own doing. However, whether this is true or not is uncertain. What is certain is Rumple did exactly what Anna said he does – use love as a weapon. Gold used Killian’s love for Emma and played on his fears and insecurities that perhaps he still does have that darkness inside of him. I was reminded of a line Sirius Black says to Harry Potter: “We’ve all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on.” Every Once character has light and dark inside of them, but our heroes choose to overcome the darkness and be good people. The difference between Gold and Killian here is that Killian doesn’t want to act on that darkness anymore. He wants to be a man worthy of Emma’s love. Gold essentially wants to have his cake and eat it too – to have the appearance of reformation but still wield all the power. As far as Gold came last season when he sacrificed himself, death was much easier because it was “final.” He is still not willing to live without power and magic and has a long way to go.

    Despite his mistake, my heart broke for Killian. He is a good man who loves Emma with all of his heart, and that love was used against him. His intentions when striking deals with Gold were not malicious but rather to help Elsa, and then to be able to simply hold the woman he loves. Even the violence showed toward Will was spurned from protectiveness and annoyance, not something darkly sinister. He was so happy to be able to spend a night out with Emma and enjoy some quiet moments. Now he has his hook back and a secret plaguing him. But at least he was able to hold Emma in his arms in that one brief, but glorious moment.

    What is next for Emma and Killian will be surely be heart wrenching and heartfelt. Out of the darkness will come the light. Emma is no longer running away from her feelings. She is happily embracing them with an open heart, accepting Killian’s love as she continues to fall for him. Once he let his walls down, falling for Emma Swan came as easily as breathing, and as she has let her walls come tumbling down we see how easily she loves him. The natural ease of their date proved that. Falling for each other was simple, but the journey to find that happy end never is. True Love isn’t easy but it must be fought for. Killian has fought to win her heart, the symbolic prince who willingly faces a forest of thorns to awaken his true love on the other side. And Emma’s heart has awakened from a long sleep. Killian will continue to struggle with himself, but will fight to be a good man, and Emma will no doubt fight for him too. Once Upon a Time is not about damsels in distress waiting to be rescued, but strong characters who never give up. She will fight any dragon, real or metaphoric, for the man she loves. And it will be a beautiful story to behold. – See more at: http://www.thenerdmachine.com/once-upon-a-time-the-apprentice/#sthash.EUOBgHP1.dpuf

    October 26, 2014 at 5:44 am #287405
    surayya
    Participant

    Some funnies-

    (naughty word-click link for this image) http://caipteancalahaan.tumblr.com/post/95304648395/captaincalahaan-try-again-killian-valentine

     

     

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    Have to link this one due to language …

    https://www.tumblr.com/caipteancalahaan/100850548860/captain-hand-is-my-new-otp-you-cant-tell-me

    Outlander crossover for @Bo-Peeps

    Totally laughed out loud when I saw this, so despite it not being CS, had to include the Rumple HP crossover strip 😉

    October 26, 2014 at 6:12 am #287412
    surayya
    Participant

    @KillianJones updated one of his vids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmnQt9TZFig

    & made another one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOWfK6dMx4U

     

     

    Right- I’m off to put on more after sun & head off to bed, have an early morning exercise riding some race horses down the beach next to the track for a friend (plus taking my own girl to go have some fun beach riding in the surf & inlet afterwards- YAY!) Then have Once in the afternoon (decided to actually take the day off since it’s a public holiday! 😉 ) tomorrow will be a perfect day! 🙂

    October 26, 2014 at 7:20 am #287432
    ellemo78
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    Hee!! Slytherin! 😀 Aww, and i already miss the jacket. I did read somewhere Colin saying that Hook perhaps misses his pirate coat too

    I’m on board the angst train too, but the breaking-up train, not so much. As said, that gets a bit tedious after a while. Perhaps it’s Killian’s turn to pull away from Emma (not for too long, I hope) and she starts to wonder why and it will all come out in the wash and all will be well. The whole “love is a weapon” thing surely that’s got to come back and bite Rumple on his proverbial. Considering Emma’s got magic that is stronger than Regina’s (once she manages how to use it) and all her magic comes from love. Epic showdown between Rumple using love for evil and Emma using love for good?

    If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness

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