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Oh, Surayya, my Pretties Queen, I ADORE the visual fall-out of your rightful anger over insignificant, tantrum posts from the outlands!! (grin)
Especially this:
and this:
this:
and this!:
Having been a first wave original fan of Han and Leia from the sassy moment they gloriously burst onto the big screen back when the Force wasn’t with any of us yet and a Wookie was something my toddler niece called her favorite blanket…I have, likewise, been willingly and joyfully sucked into the wonderful world of Hook and Emma ever since they took the first climb into life together on the beanstalk!
Still unapologetically love it. Still don’t give a flying fireball who disagrees and care even less for pompous killjoys no matter where they post or how vociferously they pontificate (pffft) their views.
To lady, surayya, Epona and all the passionate CS’rs…HERE is a Safe Haven, not a Hate Haven. Ignore the hounds of patronizing hate and butt-inski discord. They don’t fit in here, belong here, have value here…and never will.
But by all means, let the VISUALS continue!!!! We relish that kind of *mad*ness.
***Always in search of a good flock***
Alright, I have to get a response to this off my chest. I haven’t barged into any other threads to defend Emma, Hook, or any of the real people who I’ve seen actually bashed there, but I do feel the need to defend Emma here and point out why I find the current treatment of Regina troubling. Anyone who wants to keep the positive vibes going, feel free to skip. 🙂
Was tipped on about the current discussion, and coming to read the last few posts has me like:
@Epona, I don’t normally come in this thread, but I heard there was some Regina/Lana Bashing going on, and I just had to see it for myself.Was going to give a very long comment, but decided not to. All I’ve got to say is that…Evil Regals have never, and will never turn on Regina or Lana Parrilla. SO….I don’t know what you and @Suraya read, but I can guarantee it wasn’t written by an Evil Regal. And if they say that they are an Evil Regal, but are dissing The Queen and Mama Regal behind their backs….do so tell them this:
Every Evil Regal on Twitter, Facebook, Blogs have cheered Regina on for taking a stand against Emma in the last episode, as we understand that she had a lot of anger and frustration that she needed to get off her chest, and we’d appreciate it if you cut her some slack. If I could…I’d list every tweet here from Evil Regals from sunday night, but it’d probably take up the whole page! So I’ll leave the link to this one reviewer who said everything any loyal Evil Regal would say!
And for any other Evil Regal/Regina/Lana Bashers….this woman/character rakes in half of the viewings according to several polls Spoiler TV and others have had. And anyone who continues to slander Regina or Lana Parrilla’s name simply because they hate the character, or just simply doesn’t like that the show is making an effort to make a hero out of a villain who thanks to outside parties(Rumple and Cora), never stood a chance at being good in the past….then (look below)
I try to give the benefit of the doubt when people want to jump and bash Regina, but not Lana….like, just no! You can’t bash an actress whose just playing her part. Lana Parrilla is making the best of what they’re writing for her character, and Regina is just trying to find her own happy ending. Now that my little rants over…carry on dears.
Okay, first of all, I wasn’t “bashing” Lana–I said that I was uncomfortable with what she said and that put me off this episode. I’m not, you know, sending her whiny or offensive messages on Twitter, or writing any hostile “open letters” like some people do on a regular basis to Jen or A&E. Also, I’m not sure what polls you’re talking about, but I know I haven’t heard of them and I’m sure they’re not exactly scientific. Regina has had minimal screen time in the first four episodes of the season and the ratings have been fine; this most recent episode was the lowest-rated so far and it was heavily promoted as the Regina episode. (Of course it really wasn’t a big enough difference to draw any conclusions, but I’m just saying.)
Now about Regina–first of all, I prefaced my post with with a warning not to read if you didn’t want to see negative things about Regina, and there are reasons why I posted here, and I apologize for the bluntness but honestly one of them is because you WR, as someone who hates CS, aren’t in here (another is because my main problem with Regina in this episode was her horrendous treatment of Emma, who is one half of this ship, and unlike with other shippers, most of us actually love Emma for herself rather than just seeing her as a prop for someone else’s happiness). As I’ve said before, I like actual substantive debates and I’ve tried a few times to have this discussion with you before, but you (and any other hardcore Regina fan I’ve spoken with) never actually have any concrete responses to what I’m saying.
This little post here is a great example of what usually happens: I post screenshots and actual quotes from the show; the Regina lover makes vague claims but has no substantive argument to counter what I’m saying. And I’m not sure why you’re pointing out how other “Evil Regals” feel about this episode…I know how they feel about Regina, and since apparently child abuse, rape, mass murder, torture, wrongful imprisonment, and tyranny aren’t a problem for them, I’m pretty sure literally nothing she does could change their/your minds. I honestly have no idea WHY anyone is so crazy about someone like that; to me what Regina has done over the course of the show is simply indefensible, and she sure as heck isn’t acting like she’s changed one bit and literally stated she regrets nothing. Although actually I would think the “Evil Regals” would want to see the Evil Queen come back. She’s an interesting villain, but as it stands now the ridiculous whitewashing and watching her victims apologize to HER just makes me sick.
Gonna be blunt here, I find coming in here & saying we are “Bashing Regina & Lana” a bit rich to be honest, if Hook’s supposed ‘wrong doings’ can be discussed, dissected & touted all over these forums mostly out of context & usually with Hook haters personal opinions trumping cannon or “Because I want to hate him” attitude lol- even when it’s not in relation to the character being discussed & that not be considered “bashing”- then, sorry but you can blimmin well bet your darn cotton socks Regina’s actions & the facts behind them will be discussed when it comes to how she treats Emma or Hook in a CS thread & it is the furthest thing from bashing.
Lana gave an interview & what she said was discussed- NO ONE, has bashed Lana or called her names- they have said they arent pleased with how she worded what she said- MASSIVE difference!You may not like what has been said, but frankly nothing but cannon events & how they relate to Emma has been discussed- that isnt “bashing”– No one has said “Regina is an evil so & so because I want her to be- so there”- we’ve said we dont approve of her actions & how she treated Emma- BIG difference.
You have come in here hurling unjust accusations, while using obnoxious gifs, with nothing constructive to add to the conversation at hand, other than what appears to be a 4yr old style tantrum over the people in this thread not agreeing with your opinion on Regina’s treatment of Emma, or that Regina is the be all & end all of the show (your stats are seriously skewed by the way- almost every character fandom “thinks” their fav is the most loved & the polls prove it- just saying), with your “I speak for an entire fandom & what I say, goes- Oh & pass on this snide remark to however you’ve been talking too well you are at it” attitude & all you are coming off as doing is trolling & baiting- it isnt nice, isnt warranted is frankly uncalled for. Not Cool!
And yeah, this. It’s funny how some of the ardent Regina fans (not all, of course) act a whole lot like Regina herself; they refuse to acknowledge that she’s done anything wrong (after all, the author of the book WROTE her as a villain), think she has every right to be cruel and horrible to anyone and everyone, especially her victims, see the other characters as mere tools for her own happiness, and throw tantrums whenever Regina doesn’t get her way. I actually have a draft in my Tumblr saying the same thing, but I just thought it was rather appropriate in response to what you were saying, @surayya. 😛
Having been a first wave original fan of Han and Leia from the sassy moment they gloriously burst onto the big screen back when the Force wasn’t with any of us yet and a Wookie was something my toddler niece called her favorite blanket…I have, likewise, been willingly and joyfully sucked into the wonderful world of Hook and Emma ever since they took the first climb into life together on the beanstalk! Still unapologetically love it. Still don’t give a flying fireball who disagrees and care even less for pompous killjoys no matter where they post or how vociferously they pontificate (pffft) their views. To lady, surayya, Epona and all the passionate CS’rs…HERE is a Safe Haven, not a Hate Haven. Ignore the hounds of patronizing hate and butt-inski discord. They don’t fit in here, belong here, have value here…and never will. But by all means, let the VISUALS continue!!!! We relish that kind of *mad*ness.
I love Star Wars. I was like 12 when I had seen it for the first time. I was not On board with Han and Leia at first- bu hey 12 year old. But then I’ve fallen in love with their story.(I own about 50 books from expanded universe). My husband laughs that I’ve catched him with SW.
I usually ignore hate. Unfortunately I like to know, why people think the way thay do. That sometimes leads me to read things. I have had this crazy idea recently to acctualy make a test, which would show who and why ship a certain ship. I know it would be a waste of time and impossible to be accurate for several reasons. But the scientific part of me would really like to do that.
Okay, to make up for my grumbling, here’s a picture that I saw on Tumblr this morning and it definitely gave me the warm fuzzies (and that’s not easy to do!):
“Someday my prince will come…”
And thanks very much for the YouTube videos of the CS scenes, @surayya…I’ll need to rewatch those without the terrible scenes in between so I can fully appreciate them. 🙂
I’m not great at posting pictures, especially when they’re gif sets from Tumblr, but there’s a really funny one that I wanted to try to post. I’m off to give it a try.
Okay, hope this works; I don’t think I’ve seen this one posted here yet:
(GIFs aren’t mine; the last four come from when Jen was on How I Met Your Mother, in case anyone was wondering.)
Oh, Surayya, my Pretties Queen, I ADORE the visual fall-out of your rightful anger over insignificant, tantrum posts from the outlands!! (grin)
Especially this:
and this:
this:
and this!:
Having been a first wave original fan of Han and Leia from the sassy moment they gloriously burst onto the big screen back when the Force wasn’t with any of us yet and a Wookie was something my toddler niece called her favorite blanket…I have, likewise, been willingly and joyfully sucked into the wonderful world of Hook and Emma ever since they took the first climb into life together on the beanstalk!
Still unapologetically love it. Still don’t give a flying fireball who disagrees and care even less for pompous killjoys no matter where they post or how vociferously they pontificate (pffft) their views.
To lady, surayya, Epona and all the passionate CS’rs…HERE is a Safe Haven, not a Hate Haven. Ignore the hounds of patronizing hate and butt-inski discord. They don’t fit in here, belong here, have value here…and never will.
But by all means, let the VISUALS continue!!!! We relish that kind of *mad*ness.
Hehe- I LOVE how CS is totally Leia & Hans in fantasy mode 😉
& yes, you are right, here is our little slice of forum paradise & anyone who doesnt like that, doesnt have to join us 🙂
Hehe- the visuals shall continue later this evening & maybe some vids too 😛
Alright, I have to get a response to this off my chest. I haven’t barged into any other threads to defend Emma, Hook, or any of the real people who I’ve seen actually bashed there, but I do feel the need to defend Emma here and point out why I find the current treatment of Regina troubling. Anyone who wants to keep the positive vibes going, feel free to skip.
Was tipped on about the current discussion, and coming to read the last few posts has me like:
@Epona, I don’t normally come in this thread, but I heard there was some Regina/Lana Bashing going on, and I just had to see it for myself.Was going to give a very long comment, but decided not to. All I’ve got to say is that…Evil Regals have never, and will never turn on Regina or Lana Parrilla. SO….I don’t know what you and @Suraya read, but I can guarantee it wasn’t written by an Evil Regal. And if they say that they are an Evil Regal, but are dissing The Queen and Mama Regal behind their backs….do so tell them this:
Every Evil Regal on Twitter, Facebook, Blogs have cheered Regina on for taking a stand against Emma in the last episode, as we understand that she had a lot of anger and frustration that she needed to get off her chest, and we’d appreciate it if you cut her some slack. If I could…I’d list every tweet here from Evil Regals from sunday night, but it’d probably take up the whole page! So I’ll leave the link to this one reviewer who said everything any loyal Evil Regal would say!
And for any other Evil Regal/Regina/Lana Bashers….this woman/character rakes in half of the viewings according to several polls Spoiler TV and others have had. And anyone who continues to slander Regina or Lana Parrilla’s name simply because they hate the character, or just simply doesn’t like that the show is making an effort to make a hero out of a villain who thanks to outside parties(Rumple and Cora), never stood a chance at being good in the past….then (look below)
I try to give the benefit of the doubt when people want to jump and bash Regina, but not Lana….like, just no! You can’t bash an actress whose just playing her part. Lana Parrilla is making the best of what they’re writing for her character, and Regina is just trying to find her own happy ending. Now that my little rants over…carry on dears.
Okay, first of all, I wasn’t “bashing” Lana–I said that I was uncomfortable with what she said and that put me off this episode. I’m not, you know, sending her whiny or offensive messages on Twitter, or writing any hostile “open letters” like some people do on a regular basis to Jen or A&E. Also, I’m not sure what polls you’re talking about, but I know I haven’t heard of them and I’m sure they’re not exactly scientific. Regina has had minimal screen time in the first four episodes of the season and the ratings have been fine; this most recent episode was the lowest-rated so far and it was heavily promoted as the Regina episode. (Of course it really wasn’t a big enough difference to draw any conclusions, but I’m just saying.)
Now about Regina–first of all, I prefaced my post with with a warning not to read if you didn’t want to see negative things about Regina, and there are reasons why I posted here, and I apologize for the bluntness but honestly one of them is because you WR, as someone who hates CS, aren’t in here (another is because my main problem with Regina in this episode was her horrendous treatment of Emma, who is one half of this ship, and unlike with other shippers, most of us actually love Emma for herself rather than just seeing her as a prop for someone else’s happiness). As I’ve said before, I like actual substantive debates and I’ve tried a few times to have this discussion with you before, but you (and any other hardcore Regina fan I’ve spoken with) never actually have any concrete responses to what I’m saying.
This little post here is a great example of what usually happens: I post screenshots and actual quotes from the show; the Regina lover makes vague claims but has no substantive argument to counter what I’m saying. And I’m not sure why you’re pointing out how other “Evil Regals” feel about this episode…I know how they feel about Regina, and since apparently child abuse, rape, mass murder, torture, wrongful imprisonment, and tyranny aren’t a problem for them, I’m pretty sure literally nothing she does could change their/your minds. I honestly have no idea WHY anyone is so crazy about someone like that; to me what Regina has done over the course of the show is simply indefensible, and she sure as heck isn’t acting like she’s changed one bit and literally stated she regrets nothing. Although actually I would think the “Evil Regals” would want to see the Evil Queen come back. She’s an interesting villain, but as it stands now the ridiculous whitewashing and watching her victims apologize to HER just makes me sick.
I do have to admit I would prefer they at least have had Regina express some guilt or remorse over what she has done to someone- anyone, BEFORE they decided to go down the Emma/Regina friendship road- as it will be hard to sit there & accept Emma being friends with a women whom has done the things you’ve already listed above, who has also said she regrets no of it :/ A single sentence/line of dialog, would be an easy & effective way to show growth in Regina, while making it easier/more acceptable for Emma fans to accept a Regina/Emma friendship, if you know what I mean.
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