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November 4, 2014 at 3:53 pm #288933
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ParticipantOh, and I assume everybody noticed in the preview for next week when Ingrid was taunting Emma about “the family that you have” they showed pictures of not only Snow and Charming but also Killian–how cute is that? (It was a bit stupid that Henry wasn’t included, but according to the press release he’s off working/spying in Mr. Gold’s shop.) From the pictures though, I do anticipate feeling awful for Emma while she watches her mother and brother have what she missed out on with both her mother and her own child. 🙁
And while there’s undoubtedly some tough stuff to come (we still haven’t scene any scenes with Killian in the holding cell…I don’t remember what they were shooting when we got that picture), I do like the idea that maybe the apparent lack of Killian in the filming for 411 means that he’s been cursed by Ingrid. And we all know how curses are broken…Oh, and we have that encouraging little tidbit from A&E’s recent interview.
[adrotate group="5"]November 4, 2014 at 4:22 pm #288937killianhookfan
ParticipantI hope I am safe to vent here over something that has bothered me for quite a while and was being discussed in a round-a-bout way in the chat room.
Another death??? Ugh!!! But here’s the thing . . . I LOVE BTS pictures and spoilers, set reports, etc just like everyone else. I love to see the camraderie of the cast, I love that they are so close and that they are so willing to communicate with their fans. BUT. I am a 42 year married woman with a 13 year old son. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to be the spouse of a man who has an on-screen love interest who thousands of fan girls “ship.” I can’t imagine how you deal with the fact that they go to work and kiss another woman for a living – BUT that is their job, they are an actor, a professional, you can see the end product, you know there are cameras and dozens of crew members around and people yelling “action!” and “cut!” So I imagine you just get used to it. What I CANNOT stomach is BTS pictures of those same people hanging all over each other, walking arm in arm, snuggling together etc. I don’t care how “close” a cast is or how much chemistry a ship has – that isn’t appropriate. So if the rumored person is leaving the show – I can’t say that I’m surprised and I’m actually happy about it – for the OTHER cast member’s sake, for his marriage’s sake, for his children’s sake. It’s unfortunate but if this person took responsibility for something that clearly was headed in the wrong direction, regardless of whether it went there, I applaud her. And I hope that his marriage is okay. As always, I continue to admire Colin for being devoted to Helen and am always so happy to see her in pictures at events with the rest of the cast. I’m sorry if this was totally inappropriate but it has been driving me crazy. And it angers me when I see that people are planning to tweet their disappointment to A and E if, in fact, the rumored person is the one to leave the show. Because it might just be the best thing for TWO cast members, a wife, and several children – so angry tweeting A and E really isn’t fair. And when it comes down to who would leave the show – that person is the ONLY one of the two who could leave and have the show survive. Married woman rant over. Continue with your regularly scheduled shipping.
November 4, 2014 at 5:14 pm #288952PriceofMagic
ParticipantI disagree completely with your comment rumplegoldfan. If those pictures you are referring to are the dock pictures then there was a scene rehearsal before the actual scene was shot hence why it might have looked like they were “hanging all over each other”. Bobby and Emilie are grown adults, Emilie is not trying to lead Bobby astray and the implication that she is and therefore it’s a good thing she might be leaving the show is unfair. If, and that is a big if, there was indeed something going on, then it takes two to tango and the blame can’t be put on Emilie entirely.
Also if people want to tweet their disappointment to A&E about something that happened on the show then they are perfectly in their right to so long as they stay civil and polite.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 4, 2014 at 5:41 pm #288956Epona_610
ParticipantHm. I hadn’t heard any of those rumors. I just assumed it was either an unsurprising villain death or a temporary death.
However, I did see the new casting spoiler and good lord if it’s really Cruella Devil (which, with the Dalmatian puppy spoiler, seems unfortunately likely), I just…ugh. She’s by far my least favorite Disney villain (and not in a love-to-hate way, just a hate-to-hate way). I swear if they try to give her any kind of sympathetic backstory or try to “redeem” her, I’m done. Just done (and by done, I mean stop watching, not keep watching for the express purpose of hating it, haha) . I can’t stand anyone hurting animals. I can only hope that that person will play some other character, any other character. Ugh.
November 4, 2014 at 5:50 pm #288957obisgirl
ParticipantI really don’t see how Cruella can fit into the OUAT universe – AT ALL! . I’m inclined to think this actress for 4B is Aurora’s mother, the original Sleeping Beauty, Briar Rose or one of the three fairies. Plus, I googled her and the actress is Irish and Sarah Bolger who is our Aurora is Irish too. .
November 4, 2014 at 6:01 pm #288960PriceofMagic
ParticipantHowever, I did see the new casting spoiler and good lord if it’s really Cruella Devil (which, with the Dalmatian puppy spoiler, seems unfortunately likely), I just…ugh. She’s by far my least favorite Disney villain (and not in a love-to-hate way, just a hate-to-hate way). I swear if they try to give her any kind of sympathetic backstory or try to “redeem” her, I’m done. Just done (and by done, I mean stop watching, not keep watching for the express purpose of hating it, haha) . I can’t stand anyone hurting animals. I can only hope that that person will play some other character, any other character. Ugh.
If they did do her, I don’t think they’d actually show her hurting animals. (although they did show the heart being taken from the unicorn) but hurting animals on tv is a big no no because the audience cares more about the animals then the people.
I could see her going after magical creatures like Ruby for their magical properties.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 4, 2014 at 6:54 pm #288967obisgirl
ParticipantNovember 4, 2014 at 7:01 pm #288968ellemo78
ParticipantOhh Colin as the Doctor! I think my inner fangirl just exploded in delight 😀
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
November 4, 2014 at 7:18 pm #288972killianhookfan
ParticipantI disagree completely with your comment rumplegoldfan. If those pictures you are referring to are the dock pictures then there was a scene rehearsal before the actual scene was shot hence why it might have looked like they were “hanging all over each other”. Bobby and Emilie are grown adults, Emilie is not trying to lead Bobby astray and the implication that she is and therefore it’s a good thing she might be leaving the show is unfair. If, and that is a big if, there was indeed something going on, then it takes two to tango and the blame can’t be put on Emilie entirely. Also if people want to tweet their disappointment to A&E about something that happened on the show then they are perfectly in their right to so long as they stay civil and polite.
No, I wasn’t referring to the dock scenes – I know those were rehearsal scenes. I was actually referring to a level of friendliness that has been going on for a very long time and I don’t think the appearance of something improper just lies on one side. I completely agree that it takes two to tango, and actually in my personal opinion I believe the person who is married holds the responsibility for remaining loyal to their spouse. It’s pretty crappy to get involved with someone who is married but that person isn’t the one breaking the marital vows. Based upon some things that have been said it sounds like he is not happy to be a part of a ship anymore and has pulled back from being “social” (not that he was ever incredibly communicative). It just sounds like he doesn’t want to be associated with his character and “ship” off-screen anymore. Fair to the other? Not necessarily. But no different than what happens in any other work environment when two co-workers get involved. Typically someone ends up going and in this situation it would be the one who is less of a viewer draw.
And yes, people CAN tweet A and E about whatever they want (hopefully, like you said they will be kind) but I think sometimes people need to think about what it is they are tweeting. No one really knows the reason anyone leaves a show (unless the actor says they were forced to leave or something) so assuming that A and E made a DECISION to have a character leave the show, when it could have been the actor’s personal decision, is assuming a lot. I guess I just don’t understand the whole tweeting thing. To me it’s hiding behind technology I would never walk up to either A and E and express my disappointment in an actor leaving the show (even in a kind manner) because – what business is it of mine, I don’t know the facts, and I am not an expert in the television industry so I don’t think my opinion is reasonably relevant.
In any event, Belle has been completely under utilized in my opinion, so if EDR did decide to move on to something else it would make sense to me. I have often won dered if they were so taken by surprise by the popularity of Skin Deep that they brought her on as a regular but never really thought of what to do with her in the short OR long term. Which is too bad because Belle is such a great character and so much could have been done with her and Rumple but they just stuck her on the back burner. Rumbelle was originally my OTP until, sadly, I just kind of forgot about them.
November 4, 2014 at 7:44 pm #288976Epona_610
ParticipantIf they did do her, I don’t think they’d actually show her hurting animals. (although they did show the heart being taken from the unicorn) but hurting animals on tv is a big no no because the audience cares more about the animals then the people. I could see her going after magical creatures like Ruby for their magical properties.
Well then as far as I’m concerned, she shouldn’t be on the show at all, because that’s what she’s known for. And I stand by what I said before, no matter what they have her do on the actual show, I’ll be pretty offended if they try to make her even remotely sympathetic or her actions justified. And I don’t think they would either; they’d probably alienate a lot of the audience. But bring that character in and it’s definitely implied. And I know about other people, but one of the issues I have with animal abuse being shown on screen is the long and sordid history of actually torturing animals for film. (I could go into more detail, but I’ll spare everyone!)
I really don’t see how Cruella can fit into the OUAT universe – AT ALL! . I’m inclined to think this actress for 4B is Aurora’s mother, the original Sleeping Beauty, Briar Rose or one of the three fairies. Plus, I googled her and the actress is Irish and Sarah Bolger who is our Aurora is Irish too.
I don’t see how either! Maybe she comes from Alice’s “fictional London” instead of the EF, haha. But with this and rumors of a Dalmatian puppy on set…it’s got me worried. And I wouldn’t be so worried about it if she were a one-episode villain either, but this character is apparently recurring. I’d much rather see Aurora’s mother, or the Black Fairy, or, well, anyone else, lol. I’m very much looking forward to having Kristin Bauer back, but this might put a damper on things. *sigh*
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