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November 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm #290577
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ParticipantDo you guys think Hook might make another confession to Emma, or will Emma figure out that he’s missing his heart and he won’t need to confess?
I would like if he did but my thinking was that since Rumple knew he left that message he would command Killian not to tell Emma anything about their dealings. That is how it works with the heart right? They can tell them to do (or not do something) and they have to follow that instruction until that person doesn’t have their heart anymore?
[adrotate group="5"]November 17, 2014 at 4:55 pm #290582obisgirl
ParticipantDo you guys think Hook might make another confession to Emma, or will Emma figure out that he’s missing his heart and he won’t need to confess?
I would like if he did but my thinking was that since Rumple knew he left that message he would command Killian not to tell Emma anything about their dealings. That is how it works with the heart right? They can tell them to do (or not do something) and they have to follow that instruction until that person doesn’t have their heart anymore?
Traditionally yes. The person who holds the heart has to follow the person’s orders.
I think Rumple saved Hook from the Spell of Shattered Sight. Why I think Gold just saved Killian from the Shattered Sight Spell?
Once that spell is cast, it’ll become painfully obvious Hook doesn’t have his heart.
November 17, 2014 at 5:54 pm #290601ellemo78
ParticipantTraditionally yes. The person who holds the heart has to follow the person’s orders.
I think Rumple saved Hook from the Spell of Shattered Sight. Why I think Gold just saved Killian from the Shattered Sight Spell?
Once that spell is cast, it’ll become painfully obvious Hook doesn’t have his heart.
I agree with you. That was my first thought when Rumple said he was going to have some fun before killing Hook. Without his heart he can’t be affected by the spell yeah?
Our poor little pirate. He is getting royally screwed over from the bad guys. Zelena tormented him with his guilt. Rumple is using his love for Emma against him. They poor guy can’t catch a break. He’s always in over his head, going up against serious magic wielders and yet he still survives. I sure he’ll survive this, but how much more torment can they put him through?
Also, I hadn’t realised about his heart being bright red until @obisgirl pointed it out. With years of pirating and vengeance it probably should be darker than it was. But nope, our pirate does not have a rotten heart. Considering the previous times he was about to get his heart ripped out they didn’t actually manage it, I was hoping that with Emma regaining control of her powers (right before Rumple took his heart) that perhaps her love might have saved him from the heart-rip (like when Cora tried to take Emma’s heart in whatever episode that was), but alas it was not to be.
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November 17, 2014 at 5:56 pm #290603killianhookfan
ParticipantI think something similar to what happened in the Frozen storyline flashback could happen that will make Emma realize that something isn’t right with Killian. Remember we had pictures of Killian in jail just like Anna was in jail when Elsa was pretending to believe that Anna was trying to trap her in the hat but Elsa KNEW her sister would never do anything to hurt her.. I think something similar will happen and it will make Emma realize that something is not right with Killian because he would never hurt her and would never do anything to hurt her magic. She will then realize that he is being controlled by Rumple and figure out that he has Killian’s heart.
Remember how everyone said they couldn’t wait for the day Rumple found out Regina had Belle locked up in the hospital for 28 years?? I can’t wait for the day Emma finds out Rumple ripped out her boyfriend’s heart.
November 18, 2014 at 9:27 pm #290795ellemo78
ParticipantRemember how everyone said they couldn’t wait for the day Rumple found out Regina had Belle locked up in the hospital for 28 years?? I can’t wait for the day Emma finds out Rumple ripped out her boyfriend’s heart.
Rumple is going to be in some serious trouble if/when Emma finds out. If Ingrid can now harness the trio’s magic, I assume Emma can too. The magic of three powerful, and in case of two, witches (sorceresses? magicians? what do we call them?) whose magic comes from love, I think Rumple is in for a rough time. And as Emma said she can’t lose Hook, I think I’m going to enjoy the lengths she’ll go to rescue him.
I love that they’re keeping Rumple a villain tho. Bobby plays that menace so well. And anything that gets Colin to do his angsty acting is alright by me. But this will be a pretty big thing Rumple will have to come back from if he survives. I mean surely the Charmings & Co will not allow Rumple to roam free once they realised what he’s been doing, esp to their beloved Saviour.
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November 18, 2014 at 10:38 pm #290802obisgirl
ParticipantBobby does play a very good villain. I think he’s even made a career playing bad guys. Or morally gray at best.
I would still like to know a little more about what his end game, especially since that’s not very clear in on-screen. But Rumple does make the perfect, I will admit, primarily, because he has ties to everyone. He has ties to the Charming family through Henry, Regina, Emma…he knows them all and can anticipate their moves. A good villain understands how the good guys work and uses that to his or her advantage.
Plus, he’s so stealthy about it, that I hate him for what he’s doing, most of the time I want him to die. And I used to really love Rumple’s character. He was my favorite for three seasons. But it’s also difficult because he’s doing all these things and seems to have zero remorse for his actions. He’s an apathetic villain.
At least as Colin said in that recent interview, Hook feels remorse for what he’s done. The heavens opened up when I read that.
November 19, 2014 at 12:09 am #290820ellemo78
ParticipantI got the feeling that all Rumple wants is to be free from the dagger. I’m not sure he actually wants to take over the world like the SQ kind of suggested when she asked for Storybrooke to be hers. He doesn’t want to have that weakness of being controlled by the dagger. Considering that’s what happened to him last season he doesn’t want it to happen again. Hence him trusting Belle not to ever use the dagger on him. (yeah I know it’s a fake, but the intention was there.) Having Belle of all people try to control him with it has intensified his desire for freedom. When he was the DO in the EF he could do whatever he wanted. He never wanted to rule the EF (he kind of did in his own way, but to be a monarch like Regina, no) he just sat back in his castle and did what he wanted. And what he wanted was to find his son. Now Bae is out of the way, he no longer has his conscience to pull him back from doing horrible things. Just like he did absolutely anything he could to get to our world, unfortunately the way to get his freedom means hurting others and his freedom (and power) is more important. I saw someone call him ‘Goldemort’ on Tumblr, which is quite appropriate. “There is no good and evil, only power” that pretty much seems like Rumple’s motto at the moment. However he still has a sliver of good that can love Belle. And all there needs to be is a sliver for redemption. Honestly I don’t think he’s going to be redeemed. Not too soon anyway. The only time he has shown remorse was when he let Bae go through the portal. Not even Hook reminding him that Emma is Henry’s mother gave him pause. Emma isn’t anything to Rumple apart from a means to an end. Rumple was boring last season. *He* was that one that wanted to taste vengeance again, not Hook and he’s relishing it. He’s taking out his own puppet situation of 3B on Hook, surely the only person left who has wronged him that he hasn’t defeated/killed. I love him and I hate him! Wonderful!
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November 21, 2014 at 5:03 am #291180Marlys Seleen
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November 21, 2014 at 5:04 am #291181Marlys Seleen
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