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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • May 18, 2017 at 12:15 pm #339060
    nevermore
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    How dare you suggest otherwise?

    LULZ!!! That’s a good one.

    (Welp… in case you were actually using ‘how dare you’ non-ironically, if you re-read my post you may notice that it suggests absolutely nothing about the veracity of Emma’s statement or vows one way or another.)

    The show stated she only said I love you to Neal at that moment because of the stakes much like in S2 finale she called Snow and Charming Mom and Dad because she thought they were all gonna die.

    Are you saying that when not under duress, Emma doesn’t think of the Charmings as her Mom and Dad? I don’t know what to tell you… ? 

     

     

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    May 18, 2017 at 12:23 pm #339061
    TheWatcher
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    Seriously that is the strangest view point on the matter.

    – Emma doesn’t love Neal because he was falling into a pit of magic when she said it and it was a high pressure moment.

    – Emma doesn’t love Hook because when she first said it, she was bout to be sacfrice herself to the darkness which was also high pressure.

    – Emma doesn’t love Henry because when she gave him TLK he was actually dying.

    Anymore examples?

    I guess you are right, Michael. Emma really has never known love before 😛

     

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    May 18, 2017 at 12:27 pm #339062
    PriceofMagic
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    @TheWatcher I agree with what you say though I don’t think there’s really any point arguing with Michael. He/she is obviously incapable of responding to a civil debate without being rude and stamping his/her foot like a petulant child just because people don’t agree with him/her.

    I don’t think CS were each others first true loves especially Hook’s because otherwise that trivialises his quest of vengeance for Milah. Likewise, Daniel was Regina’s first true love hence her decades long quest for revenge against Snow, but the show was trying to push Robin as Regina’s new true love. That doesn’t invalidate Daniel, it just means that Regina has moved on. Similarly, Milah was Hook’s first true love but after her death and his revenge quest, he learned to move on and Emma became his new true love. Likewise for Emma, Neal was her first true love but after his death she moved on and became true loves with Hook. The lack of TLK for CS is odd though.

    I don’t know why certain CSers still feel threatened by the notion that Emma had true love before Hook. Hook “won” in the end so why should it bother them if Emma loved someone else romantically before hand. Is Hook not good enough on his own merits and thus the “competition” has to be put down to make Hook look better in comparison?

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    May 18, 2017 at 12:33 pm #339064
    nevermore
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    So all you SF fans, how do you explain that? I know Emma says that she had never experienced true love before at her wedding…and that is rather damning.

    I see no problem with taking Emma at her word. I simply think that we should then take her at her word consistently. During the wedding, she states that she is experiencing something with Hook that is qualitatively different from her previous experiences, and labels that true love. Sure, why not? In fact, I should hope that her feelings for Neal, for her parents, for Henry and for every other important person in her life are each particular and unique forms of love — of course they are, why wouldn’t they be? And all are equally true, lowercase t. But as far as TL as a magical force is concerned (rather than an emotion/feeling/state or what have you) I am simply saying that Emma shares it with Henry, and that’s confirmed beyond doubt. In other words, both things can be true: Emma’s statement of her experience can be an accurate reflection of her experience, AND she does in fact share TL with other people. I don’t necessarily see a contradiction here.

    May 18, 2017 at 12:35 pm #339065
    thedarkonedearie
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    I see no problem with taking Emma at her word. I simply think that we should then take her at her word consistently. During the wedding, she states that she is experiencing something with Hook that is qualitatively different from her previous experiences, and labels that true love. Sure, why not? In fact, I should hope that her feelings for Neal, for her parents, for Henry and for every other important person in her life are each particular and unique forms of love — of course they are, why wouldn’t they be? And all are equally true, lowercase t. But as far as TL as a magical force is concerned (rather than an emotion/feeling/state or what have you) I am simply saying that Emma shares it with Henry, and that’s confirmed beyond doubt. In other words, both things can be true: Emma’s statement of her experience can be an accurate reflection of her experience, AND she does in fact share TL with other people. I don’t necessarily see a contradiction here.

    Yup, I agree with all of this.

    May 18, 2017 at 12:41 pm #339067
    PriceofMagic
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    nevermore wrote:

    I see no problem with taking Emma at her word. I simply think that we should then take her at her word consistently. During the wedding, she states that she is experiencing something with Hook that is qualitatively different from her previous experiences, and labels that true love. Sure, why not? In fact, I should hope that her feelings for Neal, for her parents, for Henry and for every other important person in her life are each particular and unique forms of love — of course they are, why wouldn’t they be? And all are equally true, lowercase t. But as far as TL as a magical force is concerned (rather than an emotion/feeling/state or what have you) I am simply saying that Emma shares it with Henry, and that’s confirmed beyond doubt. In other words, both things can be true: Emma’s statement of her experience can be an accurate reflection of her experience, AND she does in fact share TL with other people. I don’t necessarily see a contradiction here.

    Yup, I agree with all of this.

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    Michael won’t, because how dare Emma truly love someone that isn’t Hook!

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    May 18, 2017 at 12:56 pm #339070
    TheWatcher
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    Something I was thinking about. What do you guys think Hook’s cursed persona will be? For some reason…..im thinking a priest. Why? Because a priest is the exact opposite of a swash buckling pirate and a priest is chaste, so that means not only would hook be in essence virginal, a huge difference from a pirate who has admitted to being, uh, quite well versed in the female bodies throughout his centuries, but he’d also be unmarried and alone. Which is the worst thing for him, since he’d have no memories of his love. Its the worse thing to curse him to be on all bases.  I also think itd be quite funny to see Colin portray this.

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    May 18, 2017 at 1:01 pm #339071
    PriceofMagic
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    Something I was thinking about. What do you guys think Hook’s cursed persona will be? For some reason…..im thinking a priest. Why? Because a priest is the exact opposite of a swash buckling pirate and a priest is chaste, so that means not only would hook be in essence virginal, a huge difference from a pirate who has admitted to being, uh, quite well versed in the female bodies throughout his centuries, but he’d also be unmarried and alone. Which is the worst thing for him, since he’d have no memories of his love. Its the worse thing to curse him to be on all bases. I also think itd be quite funny to see Colin portray this.

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    Rememeber during season 2 when Flook was a thing. Hook and the floor- Hook’s second true love after Milah and before Emma.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    May 18, 2017 at 1:40 pm #339074
    thedarkonedearie
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    A priest would be quite the contrast haha

    May 18, 2017 at 1:50 pm #339076
    Michael
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    Michael wrote:

    How dare you suggest otherwise?

    LULZ!!! That’s a good one. (Welp… in case you were actually using ‘how dare you’ non-ironically, if you re-read my post you may notice that it suggests absolutely nothing about the veracity of Emma’s statement or vows one way or another.)

    Michael wrote:

    The show stated she only said I love you to Neal at that moment because of the stakes much like in S2 finale she called Snow and Charming Mom and Dad because she thought they were all gonna die.

    Are you saying that when not under duress, Emma doesn’t think of the Charmings as her Mom and Dad? I don’t know what to tell you… ?

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    You literally just pick and choose statements don’t you? Like why don’t you read everything I’m saying? Back then in S2 finale and going into S3 absolutely, Emma didn’t think of Snowing as her mother and father. She did not until the S3 finale, that’s when she fully embraced they were her parents.

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