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I wonder if Emma may end up with neither Neal or Hook in the end. CaptainSwan and SwanFire fans are very passionate about their ship so one ship can’t be end game without upsetting the other ship with outcries of “the signs were there!”. By having neither ship be endgame, fans would be sad that their ship wasn’t successful but they would also be happy that Emma hasn’t ended up as part of the other ship.
This is very true. I am a die-hard CS shipper, BUT, if the writers develop Neal sufficiently, redeem him and make him Emma’s perfect counterpart – then I would be happy to accept him as Emma’s TL, though I would be pretty devastated. They need to make either couple easier for the other ship to respect. As it stands though, Hook is showing himself to be the Charming/Rumple to Emma’s Snow/Belle 😉 IMO anyway!
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
Did you make this pic???? I love it!
No, I didn’t make it. I googled “Keep Calm and ‘Ship Captain Swan”, saved and uploaded it.
I’m freaking out!!! Abc have got an article on their site – 7 reasons why the crew had better listen to Captain Hook. http://abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/blogs/storybook/7-reasons-why-the-crew-had-better-listen-to-captain-hook
This is what it said under the first reason:
She may have been Rumplestiltskin’s wife, but Milah was Hook’s True Love, and the vengeful sorcerer took her from him. If anyone knows how important it is to save Henry, it’s Hook.
Was Milah really Hooks TL??? Has this been confirmed by A+E? And, most importantly, can you have more than one TL?
*whimpersob*
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
I believe Adam tweeted that it is possible to have more than one true love. Presumably not at the same time…though…not sure with Aurora Mulan and Phillip or whatever that mess is. I will see if I can turn up the tweet.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@MyRaggedyMan ALWAYS hope for true love on OUAT
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) March 14, 2013
@AudrinaColumbo @MyRaggedyMan only one TL at a time.
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) March 14, 2013
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
And it was introduced as early as The Doctor that our characters can find love again. That’s what zombie stable boy Daniel said to Regina before she had to turned him into purple magic dust.
Ok, thanks both of you! I’ve never heard that Adam said that.
Related question, has Adam ever stated that, apart from the Sleeping Curse, there are other ways to definitively prove TL?
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
I think it is implied that breaking a curse, not just a sleeping curse, is proof of True Love, but its open beyond that. Belle almost breaks Rumpel’s curse. So that seemed to most people to be solid proof even though she didn’t actually break his curse. He had no idea she was alive, after he kicked her out. She was hurt and heartbroken, but without any word from him, just the experience of the adventure fighting the Yagoi, and Mulan’s speech, she decides she will fight for him. Regina then takes her, and while Hook and Jefferson are able to find her, somehow, Rumpel, with all his powers, doesn’t. I see her faith in him as proof of her love for him, but its not magical and conclusive. It’s just hard to imagine why she could have such faith if it is not true love. Yet he couldn’t break her memory curse when Regina locked her into being Lacey. So if you really wanted to doubt them, I suppose you could.
Then there’s Daniel and Regina. We really don’t have any in-show proof that it was true, true love. We just infer that from how devastated she was by his death. The story doesn’t make sense that she would go to such lengths if Daniel just wasn’t so central to her happiness. I think that’s how I feel about Hook. Some want to minimize what Hook could have felt about Milah, because they felt it would prevent him from truly loving Emma. Then these tweets came out, and people stopped trying to argue about it quite so hard. It makes more sense for his character that he did fall truly in love, that’s what devastated him so much.
There are some Rumbellers who just hate the idea that Rumpel might have loved Cora too. Nothing proves they were “true” love either, and clearly, his curse didn’t weaken at all from her kisses. I think him truly caring for her explains why he felt so damaged and unable to be worthy of love. I think if Rumpel didn’t care much for her, we can’t understand his devastation and emotional walls, first from Milah leaving, then this heartbreak from Cora. Then he’s just a jerk to Belle, and I don’t think that. A lot of Rumbellers though prefer to think neither woman before Belle meant much, that only Belle has ever invaded the true core of his heart or however you want to put that.
There was a time in my life (around 14) when I remember feeling so confused how anyone could ever fall in love with one person, break up and then love someone else. Love had to be at first sight and forever. I almost didn’t want to read stories where characters had previous relationships, like in Jane Eyre or Rebecca. Then I got older, and realized life isn’t that simple. We aren’t all lucky enough to get it right the first time, and there’s something quite beautiful really, about coming into a relationship with some baggage and a fuller understanding of yourself, and being sure of it. That’s more how it goes in real life for most of us.
I could see CS being developed that way, just as I feel Rumbelle is, but it doesn’t take away from a love story like Snowing either that is more like the Disney first and true love kind of story. Yet in terms of what it would take to prove it definitively? I think the writers could always find ways involving magic beyond what they showed us already. It’s kind of a cheap device though, if the only way people will believe a couple’s love is genuine is through magic, not through the actual romance formed by their interactions and faith in each other. Then again, as I said with Rumbelle, if you want to doubt it, you could, and maybe they do have to pull the tried and true sleeping curse device out to settle it.
If Charming didn’t wake Snow from the curse, would you believe they still loved each other deeply? I think I would because of all the chances they had to walk away from each other. I think the same of Henry and Emma. She didn’t have to stand by this kid. She didn’t have to put up with all the horrible things Regina did to her. Long before she gave him that kiss, I think the story itself told us she truly loved him.
I hope that’s how the writers go about whatever ship they give Emma. I don’t want it to be like ‘She’s in a curse, and along comes this character and its true love whether you like it or not.” That’d be definitive proof of lazy writing to me, nothing else. I have hope that is not what they are going to do.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I could see CS being developed that way, just as I feel Rumbelle is, but it doesn’t take away from a love story like Snowing either that is more like the Disney first and true love kind of story. Yet in terms of what it would take to prove it definitively? I think the writers could always find ways involving magic beyond what they showed us already. It’s kind of a cheap device though, if the only way people will believe a couple’s love is genuine is through magic, not through the actual romance formed by their interactions and faith in each other. Then again, as I said with Rumbelle, if you want to doubt it, you could, and maybe they do have to pull the tried and true sleeping curse device out to settle it.
If Charming didn’t wake Snow from the curse, would you believe they still loved each other deeply? I think I would because of all the chances they had to walk away from each other. I think the same of Henry and Emma. She didn’t have to stand by this kid. She didn’t have to put up with all the horrible things Regina did to her. Long before she gave him that kiss, I think the story itself told us she truly loved him.
I hope that’s how the writers go about whatever ship they give Emma. I don’t want it to be like ‘She’s in a curse, and along comes this character and its true love whether you like it or not.” That’d be definitive proof of lazy writing to me, nothing else. I have hope that is not what they are going to do.
All very interesting thoughts kfchimera, and also very true! I definitely believe that Snowing were TL, curse or no curse, but Emma’s situation is a bit more complex than that. And, without a definitive show of who her TL actually is, neither ship will be settled. I would rather find out that Emma and Neal were TL for certain than have her get with him and it’s not settled either way. Otherwise, there’ll always be doubts for all the shippers, not matter who they support.
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
That’s why I wish this show would make some kind of distinction between first loves and true loves.
@DrunkenHandyman thank you
— Colin o'donoghue (@colinodonoghue1) September 6, 2013
Episode 5 is Hook’s backstory and it’s sure to be CS heavy
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