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Hey, guys. I’m sorry about the rogue poster who clearly had some vendetta. I’ve had to clean it up and the user has been banned for multiple, deliberate violations of the rules.
So carry on!
And back on topic, I’m not a fan of CaptainSwan. I’d rather see Emma with the guy she slept with, who was also her first love.
[adrotate group="5"]Thank you Daniel for stepping in.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion; it’s when people are attacked for their opinions and that it stops being cool. I hate ‘shipping wars. Seriously, why can’t we all just be one big happy OUAT family?
@obisgirl wrote:
Thank you Daniel for stepping in.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion; it’s when people are attacked for their opinions and that it stops being cool. I hate ‘shipping wars. Seriously, why can’t we all just be one big happy OUAT family?
One of the biggest objections I’ve seen to Captain Hook, is where people have called him a bully. Some who believe that to be true may not realize that they have been bullies themselves, and have mirrored that same behavior with what they’ve said about the character, and his fans. The key here, is people respecting eachother, and having a good time discussing everyone’s favorite part about the show. For many of us, that is Captain Hook. His story has struck a chord with several people, has proven to have a sustaining impact, and is sticking around. As I said before, Hook (and by result, Colin O’Donoghue) has lots of fans, and that’s not going to change. Gold has lots of fans as well, and nobody is asking them to change that. Let’s just all get along. Okay?
@DanielJLewis wrote:
And back on topic, I’m not a fan of CaptainSwan. I’d rather see Emma with the guy she slept with, who was also her first love.
I’d prefer to see Emma with neither in the long term. If she were to give it a go with both of them, I’d have no objections, but Emma’s own issues of trust are a major obstacle in both relationships.
Neal- I don’t agree with the fact that, just because he was Emma’s first love and she had a child by him, that Emma has to end up with him. That’s not how it works in real life, and whereas Snow and Charming grew up in a would running on magic and true love, Emma didn’t. Fairytale endings and real world endings are two totally different things. Emma is a product of the real world and, whilst fairytales have women married and living happily ever after with the first guy they slept with, in reality many children end up with step parents because their biological parents’ relationship didn’t work out. Many people move on from their “first love” and find happiness with a new partner.
Neal abandoned Emma, yes it was so she could break the curse, but does that really matter? In Emma’s eyes, regardless of why he done it, Neal still abandoned her. After a childhood of abandonment and feeling unloved, the one person Emma loved and thought loved her in return abandoned her. Emma will never get over that, she may “forgive” him, she may give him a second chance, but anytime Neal is out late or isn’t back when he’d say he would be, Emma would immediately start thinking “he’s taking his time, is he coming back? Has he left me again?” Not forgetting that Henry is now a factor in Emma’s life. Emma is going to be more on edge with Neal’s whereabouts because she doesn’t want Neal to abandon Henry like he did her. Not saying that he would, but the thought is going to cross Emma’s mind.
Emma not being able to completely trust Neal is understandable, but it is also unfair on both Emma and Neal if they were to be in a relationship. Emma would alway wonder whether Neal would be coming back whenever he went out especially if he didn’t tell her he was going out, and Neal would feel frustrated that he’s under constant scrutiny because Emma doesn’t trust him. Even if he recognised it was his fault she was like that, it wouldn’t be healthy for the two of them.
Hook- Emma and Hook can relate but building a relationship on mutual negative experiences isn’t exactly healthy. Not to mention that Hook has flirted with Emma’s own mother, as well as every other female that crosses his path (except Belle who he’s violent towards). Hook is a womaniser and a pirate, he doesn’t like to be tied down for too long, he has a reputation from being Captain Hook in Peter Pan and Emma couldn’t trust him at the top of the beanstalk despite the fact that, at the time, Hook had been on Team Emma rather than Cora. Emma’s trust issues are always going to make her question what Hook is up to. Again it is unfair on both of them.
Hook also appears to have issues of his own. Milah, Emma, Snow, Cora and Regina are all mothers. Hook has either flirted with or attempted to flirt with all of them. Belle is the only woman on the show so far that Hook has encountered that he hasn’t flirted with but has been positively violent towards. Her affiliation with Rumple may have something to do with it, but Belle is also not a mother so may not hold any interest for Hook. Milah’s death haunts Hook, he’s spent over 300 years trying to avenge her, and it’s likely that her presence will haunt his relationship with Emma. Perhaps Hook is trying to find himself another Milah and he sees Emma exhibiting qualities that Milah possessed herself?
Henry- Henry is going to be the main factor in Emma’s future relationships. She’s not going to want to put him in a position where he could end up getting hurt. Can Emma trust Hook with Henry? Would she happily leave Henry in Hook’s care? What about Neal? Now that she’s a mother, Emma has to consider Henry in any life changing decision such as starting a new relationship. What she wants may not be best for Henry.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNeal- I don’t agree with the fact that, just because he was Emma’s first love and she had a child by him, that Emma has to end up with him.
That’s a fair point. I also found there reunion interesting. When she exposed her feelings to him about her anguish at what happened, he laughed at her. I was not cool with that. I know the show is fantasy, and fate and all, but I feel like Emma has never really had much control. And the scenes with August and Neal orchestrating her life was really annoying. I know it was all for the greater good – but how could he do that to her? How do forgive someone for what he did?
Hook- Emma and Hook can relate but building a relationship on mutual negative experiences isn’t exactly healthy. Not to mention that Hook has flirted with Emma’s own mother, as well as every other female that crosses his path (except Belle who he’s violent towards). Hook is a womaniser and a pirate, he doesn’t like to be tied down for too long, he has a reputation from being Captain Hook in Peter Pan and Emma couldn’t trust him at the top of the beanstalk despite the fact that, at the time, Hook had been on Team Emma rather than Cora.
I have to admit, the whole way the writers have handled and framed Hooks character has been extremely dissapointing. When Hook was announced, I was over the moon – he was one of my all time favourite characters. I had visions of a Patrick Stewert, Ian McKellen or Brian Blessed older type actor playing him to be honest, someone with alot of gravitas and presence. But Colin seems quite pleasant, and easy on the eye 😛 , so I had no issues. But to see what they’ve done with him – I’ve been horrified. I have to agree with the comments of Jeremy on the podcast – they’ve made Hook seem like a real pervert, a creep. And I don’t understand why. I get the swashbucking, womanising thing. OK. But the constant sexual innuendo and references to his genitalia? The borderline rape jokes? The abuse and sexual objectification of women for control? Why are the OUAT writers going there? It just seems a bit much for a “family show”. I don’t care if he is a pirate, if a man behaved the way he does, he’d be arrested. I’m amazed that people are ok with it. It’s even seen as appealing. Really? Would you want someone like that with your daughter? Or around your child, or children? (Disclaimer: I don’t ship any characters on the show – it just leads to arguing. But my fav character was Sidney Glass, so I’m still crying he dissapeared lol 😥 )
Henry- Henry is going to be the main factor in Emma’s future relationships. She’s not going to want to put him in a position where he could end up getting hurt. Can Emma trust Hook with Henry? Would she happily leave Henry in Hook’s care? What about Neal? Now that she’s a mother, Emma has to consider Henry in any life changing decision such as starting a new relationship. What she wants may not be best for Henry.
I probably think it’ll come down to this. As we have seen in the latest episodes, Emma really has no clue how to be a mother. But she would have his best interests at the forefront. She has responsibilities now. Neal will always be the father, plus it’s complicated with the whole Regina being Henrys other mother situation as well, so whats best for him should be paramount. But part of me wonders that making mistakes and bad decisions is part of life too – so a new relationship that ends disasterously (with Neal or Hook) could happen on the show, right?
Personally, I don’t see either as any good for her. If they really must pair her off with someone, then I’d prefer it was a completely fresh character. Or barring that, why does she have to “end up” with anyone at all? Is that like a rule or something? Emma’s tough – please OUAT writers don’t make her ‘dependent’ on anyone, just for the sake of it.
I ship Regina Mills with Happiness!
Just caught the 5th sneak peek Looks like Emma is gonna save Rumple from Hook this weekend, wonder what they're gonna do with him after she knocks him out?
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Just caught the 5th sneak peek Looks like Emma is gonna save Rumple from Hook this weekend, wonder what they're gonna do with him after she knocks him out?
Did you see the way she looked at him while he was laying there? She saved Gold and obviously wants him to be ok, but it really bothered her to see Hook laying there like that!
@Sarah_TN wrote:
@steliokontos1 wrote:
Just caught the 5th sneak peek Looks like Emma is gonna save Rumple from Hook this weekend, wonder what they're gonna do with him after she knocks him out?
Did you see the way she looked at him while he was laying there? She saved Gold and obviously wants him to be ok, but it really bothered her to see Hook laying there like that!
Lol right? She just laid the guy out and still looks at him like aww 😆
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