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This is all glorious. I really can’t wait until Emma calls him Killian. I absolutely 1000% agree that she is falling in love with Killian, not Hook. Killian is who was buried and suppressed when Hook wanted vengeance. Now that vengeance is on the backburner, behold Killian “Smitten, Loves His Swan” Jones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
TO OUR FUTURE
But I gotta say that the Captain Swan era started in 2×05 lolol. For me anyway!
@jasminegirl84 – his revenge isn’t on the backburner, it’s gone, forever! He doesn’t need it anymore! He has Emma, his life, his hope, his happy ending, the woman who offered him a chance not to be alone anymore and he accepted it… AND NOW SHE’S KISSING HIM AND IT IS AMAZINGI’m not crying there’s just an OTP in my eye
I just realised i’m still not writing very coherently. Apologies everyone! 🙂
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
TO OUR FUTURE But I gotta say that the Captain Swan era started in 2×05 lolol. For me anyway! @jasmingirl84 – his revenge isn’t on the backburner, it’s gone, forever! He doesn’t need it anymore! He has Emma, his life, his hope, his happy ending, the woman who offered him a chance not to be alone anymore and he accepted it… AND NOW SHE’S KISSING HIM AND IT IS AMAZING
Yeah Captain Swan started then for me too!
Revenge is gone, but resentment is still there. What I mean is Hook is not absent, he just pops up when needed like when he is fighting the Lost Boys. Otherwise, he is full-blooded Killian around Emma!!!!!!!!! Emma has had nothing but a positive effect on him and him on her.
Can you hear the canon of our OTP? Music to my ears.
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
Can you hear the canon of our OTP? Music to my ears.
YES I CAN HEAR IT’S PERFECT MELODY
omg
just had a thought
WHAT IF… THEY PLAY THE CS THEME SONG WHEN THEY KISS? OR SOME VERSION OF IT? OMG OMG OMG OMG
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
jasminegirl84 wrote: Can you hear the canon of our OTP? Music to my ears.
YES I CAN HEAR IT’S PERFECT MELODY omg just had a thought WHAT IF… THEY PLAY THE CS THEME SONG WHEN THEY KISS? OR SOME VERSION OF IT? OMG OMG OMG OMG
I think we are all instrumental in killing each other with CS feels. YES, THAT’S WHAT IT IS.
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
IT WOULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE TO PUT IT DON’T YOU THINK
WHEN THEY’RE CONNECTING ON A PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL LEVEL
*screeching*
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
YES to all of the above. Seriously. I have NO idea how I slept last night (after staying up til 7 am flailing).
It is absolutely real and I’m so glad they confirmed that in the article cause 1.5 weeks is enough torture already!
(I hate articles that talk about what people said but don’t include the specific quotes that they chose to paraphrase so I take most of the article’s comments with a grain of salt, especially since it also said Neal was still in the EF, but they did at least say the kiss was real so I’m assuming that part is correct at least).
LOVE that Emma is the one to initiate it so there’s no question of her wanting it. If it had been Hook, you KNOW we’d be reading about how he forced her and blah blah blah. We are seeing (especially in that ep) more and more of Hook and who he really is and what makes him tick.
I really hope that when people see that (especially with such obvious chemistry) they don’t hate it as much as they are right now. (People are seriously flipping out and ruining my happy moment!)
Literally the only thing that makes me wonder about any of it is the context and what happens after cause I’m pretty sure our Killian heartstrings are gonna be pulled on this ep (for many reasons but especially after that kiss). Emma’s likely to throw her walls back up or pretend it doesn’t mean anything at first but I totally expect her to be flustered but she’ll focus on saving Henry which is a good thing.
I don’t know why people assume that if her focus is Henry that she can’t have bonding moments with anyone because clearly they have to sit and rest once in awhile and some big and important conversations have come out of that so far. It’s not like she’s ditching her mission to make out with the pirate!
The aftermath is what interests me the most. Especially given how hot that kiss looks. I don’t see them as being able to just ignore that and sweep it under the rug and pretend that they’re just best buds and there’s nothing there. We’ve been saying from Day 1 that there is something undeniable between them!
I have always seen that with Hook and Emma. We’re FINALLY getting the payoff of “Next time don’t stand on ceremony” and “It’s about bloody time” – though the latter may have to wait for an official choosing, we’ll see.
Either way, these two can’t be in a room together (or a jungle) without keeping their eyes on the other (and they would despair if they did!)
As per the sneak for this week’s ep: I totally agree. I love that we’re seeing a more vulnerable Hook and getting some of his past with Bae and SHOWING that he really does care about him. This is important. He’s not a monster. He thought the guy was dead, he’s had an attraction to Emma since before he knew ANYTHING about Neal, and he knows what it’s like to hope you can find love again and why not with Emma who he outright told that “love has been all too rare in your life.”
I totally agree that it looks like Emma is realizing more and more that she didn’t really know him at all – it’s sad for her. She’s looking around and seeing that Hook knows the real Neal so much better than she does. She knows something useful once in awhile, like figuring out the “night light” (rofl Regina!), but for the most part, he’s a stranger.
She’s ALSO seeing Hook’s pain. Remembering what he said to her on the ship and seeing evidence that he really did know him well. Hook mentioning that Bae got his drawing talent from his mother *sniff* – I hate her I really do but heartstrings for his sadness! It BONDS them. THEY UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER. She’s seeing a highly vulnerable side to him and knows he gets it and yet he STILL directs it back to her. “Are you alright Swan?” Seriously dead. He is doing absolutely everything he can the right way and still getting grief for it. I really hope that seeing his backstory in the next episode calms that down a bit.
The coconut thing. Cute idea to use it to hold the candle, love that and yes, it was Bae’s. But the coconut is also a symbol of CaptainSwan now. You can’t take that away from us. Putting the two halves back together it reminded me of a lot of things on tumblr where people have been comparing CS to the couple from the sequel to the Lion King (I can’t think of their names, I always loved the first one best but may have to reconsider!) But since they made a point of showing us the coconut scene last ep, and in this ep she is holding a coconut and it’s giving the map for home I just…a;sldfjds.
The home thing. There are so many reasons to think it is on either side that it’s ridiculous as this point. We all have something to hold on to. But most RECENTLY, her home has been getting to Henry. HE is her home. Hook has been helping or trying to help her get back to him TWICE now, but she has still said “Let’s go home” and now she’s holding a coconut talking about home after saw a scene that wasn’t really necessary last week involving coconuts. I mean, Tink could have been sitting next to Regina the whole time. Or she could have staring at Snowing being all cuddly and then gone to Regina and said look what you missed out on by not going to find that guy. But they showed us CS, with a long drawn out coconut scene for Tink to watch before going to talk about soul mates.
I’m just…I have no idea how I’m still functioning but I need the new ep now. I need more info, I need the promo after it, I need the episode following it and I need that kiss! Context people context!
Poor Adam is getting so much hate from people that don’t even watch the show because they read others interpretations of whatever and their friends are mad. I totally get it but can’t stand seeing Adam get attacked for stuff, especially out of context!
We HAVE to see how it plays out before we can analyze much (though goodness knows we’ll try!). We have a few details and can already screenshot-wise compare it to a Snowing kiss (yay!) but we still need the context and he keeps telling people that too. I know he wants them to watch and for everybody to be happy but the fact that he keeps drilling in the context thing is only thing that scares me a little, and even then I look at Emma’s side of things and can’t imagine her NOT choosing Hook.
I love Bae and Hook. I do. I want everyone happy, but it doesn’t MATTER what either guy is doing or what they want or even what they’ve been through that make them do the things they’ve done (ok it matters to US and our understanding of them and how we defend them). It matters what EMMA sees and thinks and knows.
She’s going to have to re-evaluate everything she ever knew about her life with every new piece of information she gets from her parents or Neal and she is seeing more and more that she never really knew the real him (and he did tell her that “If I had known who were you were I wouldn’t have gone near you.”)
Emma has lived with pain for a LONG time because of his actions, just like with Snowing’s. She knows that hurtful things were done with the best of intentions but that doesn’t erase the pain. So BOTH guys can want and hope all they want, but it’s up to her and what is right FOR HER.
Putting myself in Emma’s shoes, I can totally see her being flustered and off-balance and not wanting to deal with any of it once Neal comes back. But I also can’t see her going back to him regardless of his reasons for screwing up (royally) along the way. She’ll appreciate having ANSWERS (which is what I would want in that situation), but I don’t see her going BACK unless it’s under 1 of 2 circumstances:
1. She feels like she has to give it a chance for Henry’s sake or that she somehow owes it to herself or Neal to try and see it actually play out and then comes to the realization that they’re not who they thought they were and they’re better as friends.
2. Someone knows she’s gonna pick Hook and gets in the way and blackmails her like King George did to Snow forcing her to tell Charming she didn’t love him. (One parallel I don’t want to have to live through!)
I’m hoping that we don’t see either way play out personally. I want Emma to take a step back, deal with whatever else is going on, and BOND WITH CHARMING who knows what it’s like to be in the center of a triangle…twice over. He has experience with this. He knows how painful it can be and he’ll give her good advice.
She saw how screwed up things were with David/MM and Charming will be able to tell her to follow her heart and not choose someone out of obligation to anybody other than yourself. This is a season for Emma to find herself and what she really wants and I have faith that it’s Hook. I have to. He’s done everything right this year and is really stepping up and she is SEEING that and appreciating it (based on the kiss!).
She HAS to know he has feelings for her. That he was being genuine, yet she kisses him anyway? That would be WAY too hurtful if she didn’t mean it! Think about it: if the guy kisses her and she goes along with a little peck or something and is surprised by it, then it’s not nearly as bad as KNOWING HE HAS FEELINGS AND PULLING HIM IN FOR A HOT KISS.
This is Emma we’re talking about! She’s not unnecessarily cruel. She hasn’t kissed anyone in ages (goodness even knows before Graham!) and the last time she kissed someone, he died (same for Hook with Milah). You don’t watch Hook falling in love with you and then kiss him and say it’s meaningless – ESPECIALLY with Hook since he can read her so well.
I completely understand it being an adrenaline thing. You might do things you were otherwise too AFRAID to let yourself do in the heat of the moment than if you had time to think about it. But it’s over a victory and not because of a life or death situation (or so it sounds like).
It’s not he almost died and therefore he gets a kiss. Emma JUST explained this season about sometimes there are the things you say when you think someone’s dying and then when you have more time than you thought different things come out (like bitter resentment toward Snowing for instance even though we know she loves them, she hasn’t forgotten the pain). Wouldn’t THAT situation be considered an adrenaline-fueled moment? It goes both ways people!
I hate that they give both sides so much hope cause it sucks but I feel like they’re building up CS and I swear if they did that to distract us or make us watch and then pull our hearts out I’m going to be so upset (though not enough to send hate to Adam, ugh!). It has been CS buildup all the way this season and I have faith even though I’ve been burned badly before.
I will be paying very close attention to how Emma reacts and who she’s paying attention to once Neal is back in the picture. Yes they need to talk and she’ll obviously have to pay attention, but I mean in the quieter moments. The moments where no one else is looking (like Hook has done with her this season so far).
In Manhattan, with Rumple crumpled on the floor, Emma was looking over at a knocked out Hook with concern. When Neal asked her how she felt about leaving him behind she didn’t say she was fine with it or had no problem with it. She just stated she had done it before (which she already had reason to feel guilty about since she could tell he meant it when he said “actually no” in response to her accusation he would have done the same thing.
When Belle was hurt and there was an outsider in the hospital who may have seen magic and Hook HAD JUST DONE SOMETHING HORRIBLE *shakes him for stupid moves*, she was STILL worried about him. Sure she poked him as much as possible, but at the hospital she was all about getting him somewhere safe so that Rumple couldn’t retaliate (even though he had every reason to do so).
Rumple didn’t say he’d kill random innocent townspeople if she didn’t go with him. He specifically mentioned Hook. He knew she didn’t want him to kill him.
The bed thing? We’ve seen Snow sit on John Doe’s bed, and Emma sit on Hook’s. Not a coincidence. (Also the shackled to the bed thing, tumblr why do you give me feels? Last time Emma was in the hospital that we know of, she was shackled like Hook was – although in a far more extreme circumstance that no one should ever have to deal with!).
I really really feel like we’ve seen the slow build from the beginning (almost a year ago!) and we’re finally seeing it be blatant and obvious and undeniable. Hook can show interest in her all he wants and so can Neal fighting to get back to her, but it’s EMMA who initiates a kiss. That makes is completely 100% canon that she has some interest in him. NOBODY can tell us now that she’ll never be interested in Hook. Done deal.
I think in my deliriousness I’ve mentioned it before but what they’ve given us this season has been so perfect. It’s subtle, it’s going about things in the right way, building to something bigger (like a kiss!) and paralleling to Snowing more than ever and within the same episode (which is HUGE because it makes it more noticeable to those who don’t refuse to see it anyway). Now 3 episodes after that Snowing kiss they’re showing us a very similar one with CS? Yes please!
*Takes a deep breath* / *dying of feels*
I have to believe. I have to have hope that this hasn’t all been for nothing. I will be devastated but a kiss is definitely a huge step in the right direction! Emma is learning more and more about Hook and seeing the real Killian and it’s impressing her. We have to hold on to that. Plus they have had insane chemistry and couldn’t stay away from each other from the beginning even though they tried to (and Emma SPECIFICALLY cause she locked him up being too afraid to have a repeat of the Neal situation – you know: girl thieves with boy, girl falls for boy, boy promises the world, girl gets hung out to dry – which to HER at the time this happened, is all she knew).
EMMA has always put up walls against Hook because of Neal. He has always been their obstacle and I think the more she realizes that she knew an idea of him but that everything in her life has basically been a lie because none of it made senses, and the more she sees Hook as the one thing in her life she can count on and rely on (other than Henry of course) the easier that decision becomes for her even though she’ll have to deal with it eventually.
She will be flustered when Neal shows up and they have way more important things to focus on! I can think of someone in my life who that would apply to as well and I’d have choice words for and want ANSWERS and I’m sure it would come across as very jealous but I can tell you right now, as much as I’d love some answers there’s no WAY I would ever want him, and that’s without all the horrible things that Neal has done to Emma.
He’s not a bad guy and I’m sure he will learn and grow from all of this, but EMMA has seen these choices and now has someone in front of her making all the RIGHT choices. There’s no way either is going to be able to sweep it under the rug, no matter how guilty they feel once they know Neal’s alive and they don’t OWE him anything.
Emma has watched her parents (albeit when they were cursed) be in a similar situation and not be able to leave each other alone. They were drawn to each other. Deep down they knew they were supposed to be together (until David screwed up royally but such is the life of a cursed TL couple) and couldn’t stay away from each other. I don’t feel that pull with Neal and Emma but I do feel that with Emma and Hook. It is JUST like the triangles we’ve seen with Charming/David and I fully expect father/daughter bonding time over it.
Can’t wait to see Snow’s reaction to everything though. She’s going to have to re-evaluate where she assumes she knows Emma and how she’s feeling cause she’s not gonna see this coming. She may have before, when Neal was alive and around, but it’s like she has blinders on now because she projects herself onto Emma.
We should be seeing this week how Snow reacts to the IDEA of losing Charming. And this is of course after she TOOK A MEMORY POTION ONCE BEFORE BECAUSE SHE COULDN”T HANDLE THE PAIN OF LOSING HIM, and we’ve been watching Regina spiral for decades, yet this kiss is only a few days after Neal “died” and Emma has been able to smile and flirt and KISS someone else and she is NOT the kind that just goes around kissing people.
If they ever wanted us to even entertain the thought that Hook would be a rebound fling (but would be only too happy to oblige) they messed up. They built up feelings on his side too much that would make Emma a cruel person to play on. They made her wait too long too because if she’s upset and hurt and crumbling and just needed someone physically, that could have happened at any point before now and she could have “gotten it out of her system” but instead they’re showing us that they do in fact “make quite the team” and that he is supportive and doing things the right way and she is seeing something in him that she didn’t see before and she is LIKING it.
Emma Swan does not go around kissing people for the heck of it. They had that tripwire moment in Tallahassee where the woman emotionally scarred, only into 1 night stands, and falling apart worrying about her son could have done something then before knowing Neal would ever enter her life again. It was after losing Graham, going through an INTENSE magic is real phase. What did she do? SHE PANICKED because she might start having actual feelings for this guy and she can’t let that happen because she gets hurt when that happens. She pushed Graham away too at first but most people love them. Same with Snowing – they didn’t meet and fall in love. He trapped her in a net and she sarcastically gave him a nickname that just happens to suit him. They went on an adventure together and found themselves drawn to one another but couldn’t act on it right then. NONE of the TL couples have started out perfectly which is why I love H&K’s quote (joking…sorta) about TL starting by hitting someone with a rock (rock/compass, close enough!)
There are just too many parallels and camera shots and now a real kiss started by Emma *dying of feels again!* for it not to have a REAL chance. It’s not up to any of us, and it’s not up to Hook or Neal. They can do whatever they want and fight for her (and it’s about time she felt like somebody really had her back for more than a few seconds) but ultimately it is her choice. And if I know Emma like I think I know Emma, it’ll be emotional for a bit, because she has to figure things out but eventually she’ll realize the perfect guy is standing in front of her and yes he’s a pirate, but she’s underestimated him all along and he’s surprised her – just like Charming did with Snow.
*FEELS*
Must have faith, must have faith. I believe I believe I believe. No idea how I’m going to get through to next Sunday yet but I have to hope that when we see it play out it will be amazing and beautiful and that they were saving Hook for Emma (we’ve never ONCE seen him kiss anybody or say “I love you”) – they gave us a highlight reel of Hook/Milah and he has the tattoo and we KNOW he loved her deeply but they didn’t show us them TOGETHER that way. They saved him for Emma because that’s what’s important story-wise. (Whereas we HAD to see Emma & Neal to understand WHY she was reacting that way to Hook even though she WANTED to trust him and now actually is!) They established Hook’s life without making us watch it so that it would mean something when we saw it with Emma. CANNOT WAIT.
THE FEELS
*passes out cookies and rum and coconuts and beans and scarves and and /dies*
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LOVE that Emma is the one to initiate it so there’s no question of her wanting it. If it had been Hook, you KNOW we’d be reading about how he forced her and blah blah blah.
YEP. Even though it’s completely clear that he adores and loves her and he’s only ever been gentle/tender with her.
The aftermath is what interests me the most. Especially given how hot that kiss looks. I don’t see them as being able to just ignore that and sweep it under the rug and pretend that they’re just best buds and there’s nothing there. We’ve been saying from Day 1 that there is something undeniable between them!
The aftermath will be interesting. Emma will predictably put her walls back up, and Killian will probably be hurt about it. BUT he knows her. He knows her trust issues. He’s been very careful with her walls, doesn’t push her boundaries too much. In 3×02 after he said “perhaps I would” and she walked away he wasn’t surprised or disappointed because he had anticipated that reaction. It really does just go to show just HOW MUCH he understands her.
He is doing absolutely everything he can the right way and still getting grief for it. I really hope that seeing his backstory in the next episode calms that down a bit.
Let those people hate, don’t take them seriously. They don’t know Killian Jones at all, and it’s sad. But his goodness is there. He was never a true villain. And this season is all about believing he can be a hero.
The home thing. There are so many reasons to think it is on either side that it’s ridiculous as this point. We all have something to hold on to. But most RECENTLY, her home has been getting to Henry. HE is her home.
The “home” thing for “the other ship” (lol) I don’t particularly get. I agree with you that Emma’s home is Henry, her family is her home. Not Tallahassee or any other place (except maybe SB). Tallahassee was basically severed with the idea of home when Emma said to Neal that he had “found Tallahassee with someone else“. Not to mention the fact that she spent 2 very painful years there waiting for him to show up before she gave up on it.. Tallahassee can only have painful memories for her – it’s not somewhere Emma would call home IMO. Basically the two of them have given up on Tallahassee from my point of view.
I know he wants them to watch and for everybody to be happy but the fact that he keeps drilling in the context thing is only thing that scares me a little
Don’t be scared, because i’m not, not one drop! No matter what context the kiss is in, and if it’s actually Emma and Killian and not some vision (which i’m 99% sure it’s not) Emma is dropping down her walls. Adrenaline was mentioned – she is obviously on a high of joy and triumph and in that moment she realises that Killian is the person who made it possible. The adrenaline ALLOWS her to take down her walls and to grab him close and kiss the bejesus out of him.
I don’t see her going BACK unless it’s under 1 of 2 circumstances: 1. She feels like she has to give it a chance for Henry’s sake or that she somehow owes it to herself or Neal to try and see it actually play out and then comes to the realization that they’re not who they thought they were and they’re better as friends. 2. Someone knows she’s gonna pick Hook and gets in the way and blackmails her like King George did to Snow forcing her to tell Charming she didn’t love him. (One parallel I don’t want to have to live through!)
Hadn’t thought of no.2! But yes I agree I can’t see it happening either. You can forgive but not forget – you can’t just forget 10 years of pain that someone who LOVED you put you through. Not realistically anyway. And one thing about Emma – she has always been the most realistic character on the show, she’s the one who grounds it.
You don’t watch Hook falling in love with you and then kiss him and say it’s meaningless – ESPECIALLY with Hook since he can read her so well. I completely understand it being an adrenaline thing. You might do things you were otherwise too AFRAID to let yourself do in the heat of the moment than if you had time to think about it.
^^^^ Yep.
Seriously, there is no doubt in my mind that Emma and Killian are it – TL. They have been setting them up, very skilfully paralleling them from day 1, comparing Killian to Han Solo (and who did Han Solo fall for? A SASSY PRINCESS WHO DIDN’T TAKE HIS CRAP). They made Colin a regular before Neal. They actually considered making Henry’s father someone else other than Neal. And Adam has said today that the story was planned from the start. THIS MEANS THAT NEAL/BAELFIRE’S storyline is expendable, and can be manipulated. IF he was intended to be Emma’s TL, that wouldn’t have happened. Seriously, DON’T WORRY MYSTERYKAT.
AND if you think about it, Adam has said that if Neal went with Emma to break the curse terrible things would have happened. Now, the curse was broken by TL kiss from Emma. If you’re in a TL couple, then every kiss you have is going to be “true” right? So, why then did Neal not just go with Emma to SB to break the curse? Why did they “need” to be separated? There wouldn’t have been a need for any of that pain and suffering if they were TL.
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I don’t know why people assume that if her focus is Henry that she can’t have bonding moments with anyone because clearly they have to sit and rest once in awhile and some big and important conversations have come out of that so far. It’s not like she’s ditching her mission to make out with the pirate! The aftermath is what interests me the most. Especially given how hot that kiss looks. I don’t see them as being able to just ignore that and sweep it under the rug and pretend that they’re just best buds and there’s nothing there. We’ve been saying from Day 1 that there is something undeniable between them!
I agree. We know the mission is to save Henry but honestly, that does not mean she can’t bond with Hook. It’s already happened and continues to happen. The kiss is just a natural progression of the relationship.
I’m curious about the aftermath too. I’m looking forward to the build-up too but I really want to see what happens after the kiss.
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