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So now that some have you have seen the episode you should watch the sneak, because the kiss was AH-mazing there too. It was more romantic in the actual episode, but yeah, you should see both versions, for reasons.
One of my personal favourites at the moment that is beautiful:
And this one, by the same person above I think, is HEARTBREAKING:
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Loved, loved, loved it!!!
What I loved the BEST was that they did such an excellent job of continuing to show that Killian has been doing everything FOR Emma – coming back, trying to save Henry, saving her Dad – because he loves her and he wants her to see who he REALLY is. When you love someone you want to be the best version of yourself you can be for them – they MAKE you want to be a good person. But at the same time doing those things are also reminding HIM of who he really is – and that is where I think Pan’s little plan is going to backfire.
While I think it will concern him that Neal is still alive – he KNOWS that Pan plays head games. I think, not only for Emma, but also because of his past with Baelfire, Killian will tell Emma that Neal is alive and now will not only lead the effort to rescue to Henry but when he discovers that Neal has been taken captive, will also lead the effort to rescue him as well. He turned him over to Pan once – I don’t think he would allow himself to let Pan take him again. There may be some back and forth stuff that goes on in there that makes Emma think poorly of him for some reason but daddy David has been impressed enough with Killian to give him the go ahead with Emma and he has found similarities in their backgrounds with losing brothers so I think he has David on his side to stick up for him now.
And I’m wondering about the person in the other box? Could that possibly be Wendy??
And can I just say how happy I am that they had Killian refuse to just put his tail between his legs and run away when told to leave Emma alone the way Neal did many years ago???? I thought they handled that brilliantly!! They kept him in true Hook character of in no way ever backing down from what he wants but also not being disrespectful to Emma’s dad since he was basically telling David “Look, you aren’t even going to be CAPABLE of giving orders as her father since you are going to be dead so it’s a good thing that I don’t have to be disrespectful when I refuse to stay away from her.” But, in spite of the fact that he knows David doesn’t want him around Emma, he saves him anyway and then makes it perfectly clear to David that he did it for EMMA!!!! This guy does EVERYTHING for Emma!!! Compare that to Neal who was ALL about self-preservation when August told him he knew he was Baelfire and then used the excuse that he wanted to make sure Emma would be safe so he could leave her to protect himself. If he really wanted to protect her he could have said “Great! Then you know I am familiar with the Enchanted Forest and the Fairy Tales. Since I now know she has this special calling and since I love her so much I will change and make sure she is protected so she can fulfill her destiny, because YOU (August) certainly did a HORRIBLE job taking care of her up to now so why would I EVER trust YOU to tell me what to do to keep the woman I love safe???”
And addressing the rum drinking was great!!!
I have been thinking this for awhile but after last night’s episode I am becoming more and more convinced that Killian (even as Hook) is the most emotionally mature of the characters on the shows. He seems to have an amazing ability to “read” other people and to understand exactly what they need, yet he also understands that no one truly grows or learns anything if they aren’t allowed to make their own choices – they can’t be TOLD what to do, they have to figure it out on their own. It’s actually sad because he is exactly the kind of parent that Baelfire wanted but rejected. He would be a great father and I think it is interesting that it seems they are trying to show some bonding between Killian and David.
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Loved, loved, loved it!!! What I loved the BEST was that they did such an excellent job of continuing to show that Killian has been doing everything FOR Emma – coming back, trying to save Henry, saving her Dad – because he loves her and he wants her to see who he REALLY is. When you love someone you want to be the best version of yourself you can be for them – they MAKE you want to be a good person. But at the same time doing those things are also reminding HIM of who he really is – and that is where I think Pan’s little plan is going to backfire.
Oh I so agree, and it just kind of underlines the whole “true love” brings out the best in people thing. Because they DO bring out the best in each other. She pushes him to be a better person and he pushes her to open up, to trust and fall in love again. God, these two, I just can’t.
And yessssssssssssss Pan’s plan WILL backfire, because if there’s one thing Pan doesn’t understand it’s LOVE (Kinda like Voldemort lol) but in all seriousness, yes, I agree. They’re the complete antithesis of each other – Pan who has no idea what love is and Killian who loves with everything he has.
I’ve seen some people on tumblr speculating that the New Neverland will be born from Emma’s TL kiss, and well as i’ve speculated that Killian will do something sacrificial in the name of love it only follows on that that TL kiss would come from Emma. I don’t know though, it’s wild speculation, and seems a tad fast for them, but then, they’ve started the ball rolling for Captain Swan in a big way.
I really don’t buy the whole HoTTB thing for the moment, because Pan is a liar. A big fat liar. And he just completely downplayed Emma’s role in the breaking of the curse. But yet we’ve been told that TL is the most powerful magic of all, and Emma is the personification of TL.
Killian will tell Emma that Neal is alive and now will not only lead the effort to rescue to Henry but when he discovers that Neal has been taken captive, will also lead the effort to rescue him as well. He turned him over to Pan once – I don’t think he would allow himself to let Pan take him again. There may be some back and forth stuff that goes on in there that makes Emma think poorly of him for some reason but daddy David has been impressed enough with Killian to give him the go ahead with Emma and he has found similarities in their backgrounds with losing brothers so I think he has David on his side to stick up for him now.
Oh I hope you’re right and Killian does that!
But I don’t know, I’ve got some foreboding about the whole thing, it’s been emphasised that Killian will be struggling with himself, and I think this is it. What better thing for him to struggle over but his love for Emma? So i’m going to stick to my original theory so i’m not disappointed. Killian will delay telling Emma, decide to then tell her, Pan will plant Neal’s jacket or something, Emma will find out Neal is alive, she will be furious with Killian. But this is where Charming will step in and stick up for/support Killian.
That kiss was only the start, and it’s an uphill battle from here. Ultimately, as David says, TL isn’t easy and must be fought for. I would be worried if we didn’t have to fight for our ship, but honestly, I think that the story between Killian and Emma will be even more epic than Snowing’s. I really do think that’s what they’re going for. And honestly, so far, it is not disappointing IN THE LEAST.
And I’m wondering about the person in the other box? Could that possibly be Wendy??
I’m leaning towards adult Wendy or Tink, yes. I think Tink is more likely because Pan obviously knows everything that’s going on the island, and so would have seen that Tink betrayed him (he even knew about the CS kiss). UNLESS Tink shouldn’t be trusted by the JR5. I don’t know, everything’s jumbled up.
And can I just say how happy I am that they had Killian refuse to just put his tail between his legs and run away when told to leave Emma alone the way Neal did many years ago???? I thought they handled that brilliantly!! They kept him in true Hook character of in no way ever backing down from what he wants but also not being disrespectful to Emma’s dad since he was basically telling David “Look, you aren’t even going to be CAPABLE of giving orders as her father since you are going to be dead so it’s a good thing that I don’t have to be disrespectful when I refuse to stay away from her.” But, in spite of the fact that he knows David doesn’t want him around Emma, he saves him anyway and then makes it perfectly clear to David that he did it for EMMA!!!! This guy does EVERYTHING for Emma!!!
LALALALA, nothing to add, you’ve said it perfectly!
Compare that to Neal who was ALL about self-preservation when August told him he knew he was Baelfire and then used the excuse that he wanted to make sure Emma would be safe so he could leave her to protect himself. If he really wanted to protect her he could have said “Great! Then you know I am familiar with the Enchanted Forest and the Fairy Tales. Since I now know she has this special calling and since I love her so much I will change and make sure she is protected so she can fulfill her destiny, because YOU (August) certainly did a HORRIBLE job taking care of her up to now so why would I EVER trust YOU to tell me what to do to keep the woman I love safe???”
Agree with this 95% of this, but I don’t think ALL of his reasons for leaving Emma were self serving. It think it was 50% about him and 50% about her. But that doesn’t make it ok.
SF shippers are always saying that we think that Neal caused all of her abandonment issues, and while he certainly didn’t help them, what he DID cause were her trust issues. Huge, huge trust issues, which, combined with her abandonment issues made her unable to move on or find closure from him. SHE WAS ALONE FOR 11 YEARS.
And another thing that REALLY annoys me is that we’re called hypocrites for saying that what Neal did to Emma was wrong because Snowing did the same. That both Snowing and Neal have things in common because they were separated from their loved ones by the curse. And while that is true on a very shallow level, it’s just not the same.
Neal made several choices. He made a choice to leave Emma without talking anything over with her. He chose to take the word of a KNOWN LIAR by FTL standards. He chose to give her absolutely NO CLOSURE whatsoever, and in doing so damaged her so badly she’ll probably never be able to fully recover.
Snowing were fighting to get to the real world WITH Emma, not to leave her alone, even if it meant that they would be separated. They made a mutual choice to do it, both knew what was going on and what the consequences would be.
So to me the whole Snowing and Neal having things in common that way is crap, not even on the same planet, that’s my opinion and it’s not going to change. Even if we find out that Neal DIDN’T send Emma to jail (unlikely, but whatever) it won’t change my opinion about Swanfire in the slightest, because theirs is not an equal partnership and make no mistake.
I have been thinking this for awhile but after last night’s episode I am becoming more and more convinced that Killian (even as Hook) is the most emotionally mature of the characters on the shows. He seems to have an amazing ability to “read” other people and to understand exactly what they need, yet he also understands that no one truly grows or learns anything if they aren’t allowed to make their own choices – they can’t be TOLD what to do, they have to figure it out on their own. It’s actually sad because he is exactly the kind of parent that Baelfire wanted but rejected. He would be a great father and I think it is interesting that it seems they are trying to show some bonding between Killian and David.
I love everything you just said, and yes, I completely agree that Killian is the most emotionally mature character on the show. We saw evidence of that last night, because he realises now that he loves Emma, and they haven’t actually known each other all that long. Emma is very emotionally stunted, but you can’t blame her. It’s probably going to take her a while before Killian gets an “I love you too” from her.
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the kiss, accompanied by the amazingly beautiful CS theme of course:
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Totally agree with you about what could happen when Hook has to decide whether to tell Emma about Neal or not. You just know Pan isn’t going to leave it TOTALLY up to the characters to decide on their own but will try to come up with some way to mess things up. And I also think that’s what Daddy Charming will step in to defend Killian – especially since he has already experienced one of Pan’s attempts at trying to turn two people who are in the process of bonding against each other. As Killian pointed out to David – that is exactly what Pan WANTS to do, get them to turn against each other. So David is well aware of that now and will be able to spot it when he sees it.
@Captain Eala Totally agree with you about what could happen when Hook has to decide whether to tell Emma about Neal or not. You just know Pan isn’t going to leave it TOTALLY up to the characters to decide on their own but will try to come up with some way to mess things up.
Oh yes, definitely he will. Because as we know, villains like to mess with True Love, lol 😉 I mean, he’s consistently messed things up for everyone so far, why would he change now?
OMG so I knew there were some parallels between Good Form and Tallahassee that I noticed, and I thought there would be more since we knew that this episode was to emphasise how Killian and Emma have such a strong connection.
I just logged on to tumblr and saw a post about the parallels, THERE ARE LOADS, go and read them now and your mind WILL BE BLOWN.
http://lady-silverblood.tumblr.com/post/65340851286/good-form-tallahassee-parallels
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Ooh I have a thought what if Emma tries to kiss Hook again but he stops her and tells her that Neal is alive! Then kablooey everything blows up in his face, and he’s left heart broken as Emma storms off!
Look at my shiny new avatar guys!!! Look at it!!
It’s from this CS wallpaper the second version is here
and my tumblr has two gifs of Captain Swan kissing as its sidebar
@obisgirl – I love your avatar, it’s beautiful, did you make it???
Ooh I have a thought what if Emma tries to kiss Hook again but he stops her and tells her that Neal is alive! Then kablooey everything blows up in his face, and he’s left heart broken as Emma storms off!
Hm, I can’t quite see it playing out like that. I think they’re going to save their next kiss for something special. You know, at a time when they’re looking at each other all intensely and knowing that the other wants to kiss them.
Looking at the kiss in context now there was a very obvious build up to it. It was actually quite similar to “The Heart is a Lonely Hunter”. At the beginning of the episodes, Emma rebuffs Graham/Killian denying that she has feelings for them. And after an “eventful” day she plucks up her courage and kisses them. The difference being that Killian didn’t die in her arms.
After watching the whole episode that kiss scene was just so much more special to me.
In their first scene he wanted her to know that he completely knew what having no hope felt like (gawd these two just make me want to FASKFJAKF), just as he had felt at a time, and was telling her that if she wanted to talk about it she could. She of course was terrified at this, feeling like they were connected enough already, so she tried to shut him down. But her body language. He was touching her arm that entire scene, of that i’m nearly sure, and yet she made no move to remove it.
Then in their next scene together she is clearly at war with herself, she is staring at him and he at her, almost flirty, both trying to figure the other out. I just can’t with these two.
Then the kiss scene. It was just so amazing because he had basically spent the entire episode putting her needs above his own. Was completely bashful when Charming gave him credit for saving him. Couldn’t handle her genuine thanks at the situation. And then she kissed him, and both of them were reeling. Him because he realises he’s in love with her. And she, well, she knows now that she’s in deeper with him than she thinks.
The haters favourite argument is that Emma only kissed him just to prove a point, not because she has any feelings for him. But the truth is she has been wanting to do it for a while IMO. She must have been terrified because the last man she kissed that she had feelings for died. And the other one she had feelings for? Left her. It must have taken all her courage to kiss him, and she took a leap of faith.
The fact that her walls slammed back up afterwards doesn’t mean she has no feelings for him, it means precisely the opposite. Because she has to leave, before she gets in too deep with him. And she doesn’t want anything to distract her from saving Henry.
And that is why I don’t think she’ll just randomly try to kiss him again anytime in the next episode or two. Haha.
*sighs* This ship will be the death of me.
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