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BELIEVE in CaptainSwan as much as Hook believes in Emma and we’ll all be ok. *deep breaths & cookies*
WOW MysteryKat, i think that was the longest thing you posted yet? Loved it though 🙂
I’m a bit upset that they made all the Hook-Neal reuniting moments about Emma
I have to say i would agree with that, I do want the relationship between them to be repaired, but i DO believe it will be someday. Even though Killian may have had fatherly feelings towards Bae, he’s now Neal, and Neal is different, all grown up now. But the thing is, Neal ALREADY has a father and needs to repair that relationship asap.
I honestly don’t get the idea that Killian should “step aside” so that Neal and Emma can be together. Because ultimately? Neal doesn’t make Emma happy.
Where in the hell does he get this confidence? Why does he think he has a fighting chance with her?
I’m pretty sure that the moment in the cave, where Neal admits that Emma didn’t tell him about their kiss, gave Killian hope, and restored his confidence that he could have a chance with her. Emma has pretty high walls, and the fact that she had those walls with Neal and didn’t tell him about the kiss, that it wasn’t her “darkest secret”, made Killian realise that. Because Emma has no walls around him, and can’t hide her true self from him like she can with everyone else. This is a canon fact.
Yeah, I get that pirates are bad and all but I feel like the constant emphasis on it is getting old.
It’s wearing on me too – but they’re emphasising it because Killian’s NL arc is to believe that a pirate can be a hero. And Emma is realising that too. When Emma said she was a pirate, she was referring to the stereotype of pirates. She wasn’t referring to him – heck she had just thanked him for doing the honourable thing! The Charmings are all starting to realise that just because one is a pirate doesn’t mean one is a bad person.
Here’s the link http://onceuponamirror.tumblr.com/post/66747728469/3×07-full-ep-old-skool-analysis
OOOOH thanks, off to read that!!! 🙂
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I’m thoroughly confused now. I think what was meant was that they were tired of having the “pirate thing” thrown in his face repeatedly because he’s so much more than that! Charming has (I think) gotten past it and I really don’t think Emma meant it in a bad way, just saying that there is that pirate reputation but she almost had a small smile on her face and then it fell apart because once again, someone was saying he was a pirate and it hurt him. I look forward to the day when it’s more a term of endearment! It was definitely not a get rid of Hook comment! Not by a long shot. I love the captain and hope he always retains some of that side too (and I think he will for sure). Just remember: when Emma was spelling out everybody’s strengths at the beginning of the season she included hero and villain…and pirate (which not only singled him out but also listed him as important and vital to the mission!) The thing that was quoted was merely showing how painful it must be for Hook to be told he’s not good enough for Emma because he’s a pirate, especially when it comes from Charming who was once put down for being a shepherd and he still got Snow who was a princess. Hook definitely has a huge following and well-deserved at that. Colin is incredible and never ceases to amaze me at the depths of emotion he conveys! Sorry if I completely misunderstood the reaction to that quote but I was very confused! We love Hook! (And Killian <3)
I might have misunderstood the post I responded to, but you are quite right!
Sorry if I didn’t make it clear – I meant what MysteryKat summed up. I LOVE Killian!!!
I don’t get the constant harping about “the pirate thing” from the characters. Charming doesn’t seem to be in a position to complain about someone’s background since he doesn’t come from the most prestigious of heritages but it didn’t affect how Snow felt about him AT ALL. In fact, it was never even an issue, the only thing that was ever even discussed was that he was NOT really the prince and YAY you can meet my real Mom now. But there was never any “I’m not good enough for a Princess” discussion from him or from Snow.
And I love Emma too but I truly don’t get her making a big deal about him being a pirate. Let’s face it – she likes bad boys. Isn’t a pirate just an old world version of a modern day thief??? And what were she and Neal??? She dated a thief, she WAS a thief, her son’s father was a thief. The people who don’t want Emma with Killian say it’s bad to show her choosing a bad boy/pirate and what kind of message does that send to girls who watch the show? As opposed to choosing the thief who got her pregnant out of wedlock?? I see no difference between Hook the Pirate and Neal the Thief. Just because she hasn’t seen Neal in 11 years doesn’t change the fact that the man, was in fact, a thief – a wanted criminal whose crime was what he used to put her in prison. And how do we really know he has improved himself over the last 11 years – his taste in women hasn’t done anything to make me think he has become a better man considering his fiancé tried to destroy an entire town and everyone in it, kidnapped his son, then tried to kill him when he attempted to stop her – not a super judge of character. But for some reason, we are supposed to have forgiven Neal for being a thief simply because he is Henry’s father??? Why do I doubt that if Killian gets Emma pregnant everyone will suddenly forget about “the pirate thing” even though Killian has shown over and over that he cares about Emma and wants what is best for her and makes decisions based upon what is best for HER. Why isn’t Emma bringing up “the thief thing” with Neal? Because she was one.
I think the writers have done a great job of showing how Emma and Killian understand each other because of the loss they have experienced in their lives but I don’t think they have done a good job of showing that they BOTH turned to a life of crime BECAUSE of the loss in their lives. In Tallahassee they started out showing that Emma was a thief and then in Good Form they showed how Killian became one (in the form of a pirate) but so far they haven’t had Emma acknowledge that she and Hook are no different in that regard either. It’s why it drives me crazy every time someone brings up “the pirate thing.” Either acknowledge that all 3 members of the triangle are just as bad when it comes to a history of thievery or move on. Sure they can show that each character is at a different point of moving away from that kind of life but you can’t pretend that it never existed for all three of them.
Regina made a big deal about the fact that Emma had spent time in jail so Snow and Charming HAVE to know at least some details of their daughters life of crime – they may not know that Neal put her there but they aren’t brain dead they know she was pregnancy while she was in jail so they have to be have been able to start putting the pieces of the puzzle together. The only thing I am holding out hope for is that Snow, bless her unicorn and rainbow heart, is so loyal to the concept of first love as true love that she is purposely overlooking Neal’s faults and Emma’s past thinking that it doesn’t matter because true love will overcome all. But that, maybe the look she had when she heard Killian’s secret, was her starting to realize that maybe it is Killian’s past that she needs to purposely overlook because he obviously loves her and maybe she is starting to put things together and is recognizing that Emma loves him too.
I just cringe when I hear “the pirate thing” and it literally broke my heart when Emma brought it up in the last episode. Killian is done with the cockiness with Emma – he is a confidant man and isn’t afraid to be honest with her in telling her what he thinks but the poor man still has feelings. That’s why I had NO problem with him telling Emma that she will eventually have to choose. I think Killian figured out almost immediatelely that Emma figures things out in her head but often has to have other people call her out on things to get her to act on the hard stuff. I think that was what Killian was doing. Obviously Emma knows she has to choose but Killian knows her well and knows that if he doesn’t call her out on it she will keep pushing it down and making excuses for why she can’t make a decision yet. He wasn’t expecting her to make a decision right then. But he was telling her that guys act stupid when they are fighting over a girl – you want it to stop? Then YOU are the one who is going to have to make it stop by choosing one of us because neither one of us intends to stop fighting for you. I like that he told her that the fun begins after she saves Henry and makes her decision. I don’t see that as pressure. I see that as exactly what Emma needs. He’s telling her not to fret and dread over making the decision because once you do, the fun part of your life can start. As long as you don’t, you will stuck in purgatory torturing yourself wondering what to do. I think something that everyone is forgetting is that Killian ALSO knows Neal. So I don’t think he is being a cocky pirate when he tells Emma that she will choose him. He knows what Emma is like now better than Neal does and unfortunately I think he may recognize the patterns of mistakes Bae has made in his life. So it’s possible that he may also be confident that Emma and Neal just won’t work out.
OMG THAT ANALYSIS I DIED
To me,… this sounded like Neal backing off. I think we have to understand Neal’s perspective when he told her he’d never stop fighting for her, he’d JUST lost Tamara (we know it was 4 or 5 days ago) and was clinging to the hope that he and Emma could work through all their history.
YESSSSSSSS I also thought he had backed off a bit! Nice to know i’m not the only one. I didn’t link it to Tamara though.
There were plenty of times where Emma could’ve told Hook he’s getting ahead of himself. That he’s reading her wrong. She’d done it to Graham, someone she really genuinely liked. She’s done it to MM, to Henry. But here, when Hook tells her that they’ll be together, she believes him.
*dying from feels here* *dying* *doctor anyone?* *i have a mighty need for a doctor* *or a defibrillator*
She doesn’t fight him, or shut down, not until he brings up Neal. She doesn’t shut down until he brings up Neal.
I didn’t even notice that she didn’t shut down until Killian brought up Neal! DID NOT NOTICE
Writers do not say *stuff* like “WHEN I win your heart” unless it’s to outright tell the audience. I have zero, zero doubt.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I ALSO SAID THIS YESTERDAY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
They are mesmerized by each other. They make each other happy. They make each other smile. Two people who are broken and hurt and defensive and scared…and they’re comfortable around each other.
*GROSS SOBBING*
Oh gawd i will never recover from this OTP………..
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Voting rally scheduled for today 4EST 1PT we had a good turn out last time hopefully it goes well again 🙂
Voting rally scheduled for today 4EST 1PT we had a good turn out last time hopefully it goes well again
4 pm EST is 9 pm GMT right? I could make that 🙂
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Voting rally scheduled for today 4EST 1PT we had a good turn out last time hopefully it goes well again
Woo hoo!! I’m there!!
I am not sure if anyone has posted this yet or not, but I saw this on Tumblr and it made me chuckle.
http://forever-never-neverland.tumblr.com/post/66786643231/monicabing-oh-my-god-it-makes-so-much-sense I am not sure if anyone has posted this yet or not, but I saw this on Tumblr and it made me chuckle.
Lol – BRILLIANT
Yes 9PM GMT
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@MysteryKat – you totally have me crackshipping Tinkerfire!!! I’ve been wondering about it all day, especially when the press release very conspicuously left them out of the list for going to #SaveHenry! Presumably they’re going to #SaveWendy (lol). But the thing I find most interesting is that they will totally have a chance to bond on this side-mission. And I was talking a few episodes ago about how interesting it was that Tink has Tamara’s watch. So I really think Tamara is going to come up. I hope so. I don’t want it skimmed over.
EDIT: Okay, with the promo stills I am now totally confused.
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