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I think I feel a bit differently than most people about the secret Emma revealed to Neal. While I understand what she was saying to him given what we know because we have seen her history with Hook, the kiss, heard Hook’s secret and seen her reaction to it – Neal did know ANY of that information.
Ah, but you see, if he was listening, really listening to her, he would have known. Killian would have gotten it.
I see SF shippers talking ALL the time about how Neal and Emma supposedly “understand” one another. But they don’t, and nothing illustrates that more than Neal’s response to Emma’s speech. Emma and Killian, on the other hand, do, which you pointed out, and it has also been stated about 50 times by the writers and the actors that Emma and Killian are kindred spirits and thus understand one another effortlessly.
I don’t think Neal intends to maliciously ignore her feelings, but the fact that he doesn’t LISTEN to what she’s saying makes it… well… worse to me in a way. Again, showing that they are in no way an example of True Love.
Speaking of Emma’s speech, here’s a meta breaking it down:
http://emmaaswaan.tumblr.com/post/67166826730/hi-could-you-please-do-a-breakdown-of-emmas-speech-to
So how would Hook break the news of Neal’s disappearance to Emma? How would he behave? What would he do?
I would imagine that Killian would do his level best not to hurt her unnecessarily, as he stated in 3×06. Maybe he would go out and try to ascertain what happened to Neal before telling Emma? I haven’t the best imagination, sorry!
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Guys, you need see this CS/Princes Bride picspam.
I’m starting to work on the “Kindred Spirits” section of my True Love meta. Naturally, I’m starting with CS first and then have a long list of what to include and other couples as well. but I can tell right now, it is probably going to be the longest section.
I’m writing a fic and need some help on the characterisation of Hook. Emma is marrying Neal. They have their bachelor/bachelorette parties the night before their wedding. On the day of the Wedding, it is discovered that Neal is missing. Everyone is trying to find Neal without letting Emma, Snow or Henry find out what has happened. However, Hook finds out that Neal is missing and decides that Emma should be informed. How would he tell her? Because of last week’s episode, my feelings towards Hook aren’t exactly favourable (however that could easily change depending on what he does on Sunday) so I don’t want to write Hook as “the bad guy”. Whilst there may be an element of Hook’s telling her about Neal because he hopes it might mean there’s a chance for him with Emma, I don’t want that to be the reason why he’s telling her. Neal’s gone missing through no fault of his own, not because he’s trying to run out on Emma. So how would Hook break the news of Neal’s disappearance to Emma? How would he behave? What would he do?
what would be a fun way is if he called Charming to tell him before Emma much like he told Emma’s parents when he found out Neal was alive. If you really want to have Hook telling Emma though I think he’d be direct and tell her what happened. Only other idea is maybe he’d just try and find him on his own bring him back and not say a thing to her or is she wondered why he was late for the wedding or something tell a lie that would put the blame on him.
PriceofMagic wrote: I’m writing a fic and need some help on the characterisation of Hook. Emma is marrying Neal. They have their bachelor/bachelorette parties the night before their wedding. On the day of the Wedding, it is discovered that Neal is missing. Everyone is trying to find Neal without letting Emma, Snow or Henry find out what has happened. However, Hook finds out that Neal is missing and decides that Emma should be informed. How would he tell her? Because of last week’s episode, my feelings towards Hook aren’t exactly favourable (however that could easily change depending on what he does on Sunday) so I don’t want to write Hook as “the bad guy”. Whilst there may be an element of Hook’s telling her about Neal because he hopes it might mean there’s a chance for him with Emma, I don’t want that to be the reason why he’s telling her. Neal’s gone missing through no fault of his own, not because he’s trying to run out on Emma. So how would Hook break the news of Neal’s disappearance to Emma? How would he behave? What would he do?
What would be a fun way is if he called Charming to tell him before Emma much like he told Emma’s parents when he found out Neal was alive and was trying to figure how to work a phone lol. If you really want to have Hook telling Emma though I think he’d be direct and tell her what happened. Only other idea is maybe he’d just try and find him on his own bring him back and not say a thing to her then disappear without a word, or if she wondered why Neal was late for the wedding or something tell a lie that would put the blame on him.
Guys, you need see this CS/Princes Bride picspam. I’m starting to work on the “Kindred Spirits” section of my True Love meta. Naturally, I’m starting with CS first and then have a long list of what to include and other couples as well. but I can tell right now, it is probably going to be the longest section.
Can’t wait to read! 😉
Some stuff to read!
http://buttercupsandhooks.tumblr.com/post/67193510265/killian-jones-classic-byronic-hero
And especially this, but it’s veeeeeery long!!
http://intothelookingglassroom.tumblr.com/post/67182407933/blues-clues-captain-swan-edition
Like, if you come out of that and still don’t believe CS are endgame, there is no hope for you 🙂
I cannot even HEAR the haters over the sound of how endgame CS are.
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Loved those tumblr links, thanks for sharing! I read them a bit ago and hadn’t made it back here yet so was happy to see them brought over! I love that we have so many long elaborate gifsets of things from other things I love like Princess Bride too! (So far 2 long ones – Princess Bride and Tangled, + metas of Star Wars, love it!). Also um, that long meta with the clues was amazing and puts together a lot of what we’ve been saying all along is significant and serves no purpose other than to direct attention to CaptainSwan and set it up beautifully! Love how so much more will fit into place upon rewatching it and I hope once a choice is made that people WILL see the setup and that it has been there from the start. I am so sick of hearing about “fanservice” or that they switched things up because he got such a positive response etc etc. Adam keeps saying their vision is in tact and this is what has been hinted about for agessss even back when many of us were called delusional!
Setup has definitely been there since Hook was first introduced and I love it! Can’t wait to see it all go together and where they go from here once she makes her choice. So excited with everything I’m seeing right now so keeping the faith for sure. There’s just too much overwhelming evidence for me so as long as I focus on that I’m fine. Even when things seem like they might go remotely the other way I’m pulled back with the abundance of clues saying we have a legit chance or we’re very very right. Either way we’ve been reading Killian right from the start so yay! So many things from the beanstalk have started to pay off that we were “crazy” for seeing originally so I’m thrilled with that. This season has been amazing!
Something else I wanted to add here even though I mentioned it in one of my tumblr posts earlier: the bridge in the Echo cave.
Hook, Snow, and Charming had to give their secrets to reveal the bridge. If it had been missing even one piece, nobody could go across to get Neal so it doesn’t matter which way the bridge is built, from either end, yet they started with HOOK’s secret and they had the bridge going AWAY from Neal instead of toward him. This is significant because Hook’s secret was about moving on from a first love and Emma’s secret was that she was hoping Neal was dead so that it would be easier for her to move on from him, aka her first love.
The bridge COULD have been built going toward Neal and away from Hook but instead the bridge for Emma to go across was built going away from Neal and toward Hook. That entire scene was focused on Hook’s reactions to what he was seeing, and Emma turning to him to get the strength to cross the bridge in the first place, just like she’s looked to him for strength every step of the way so far in NL.
Every CaptainSwan moment we’ve had just the two of them, we didn’t see the reactions from someone watching. It focuses on THEM and nobody else. Yet in the moments when Neal and Emma are alone, they show Hook’s reactions to it. They put the focus on him being hurt by what he sees. The only time they DIDN’T do that? Where they actually showed an Emma/Neal moment alone? Was when Neal told Emma that maybe Henry was the one good thing that came out of them being together.
This season has been big on BELIEVING and moving on from living in the past and first loves and believing in the power of a couple’s love. It was interesting that in this episode we saw:
- Snowing – Charming wanted Snow to leave NL and not be stuck there with him and he knew she’d gladly stay to be with him which is what their fight was all about; they then talk about needing to believe in each other which is what they’ve always done. Usually it’s Snow faltering and Charming being there to reassure her but in this moment, we saw Snow be the strong one and reminding Charming that they need to believe in each other and that they love and need and believe in each other (CANON TRUE LOVE COUPLE)
- RumBelle – we saw Belle start to not believe in her and Rumple being together forever because she would have happily gone with him but he made her stay behind; then through Ariel, Belle gets the message from Rumple about what he needs her to do and says to believe in the power of their love and she follows the chipped cup to his hiding space and realizes just how much he needs her and loves her and BELIEVES in her (CANON TRUE LOVE COUPLE)
Then we have an interesting thing happen with the CSF triangle:
- CaptainSwan – moments alone talking about how much he believes in her and has no doubt in his mind that she’ll save Henry and that after that she’ll choose him and they’ll be together because she wants that too; and Emma looking to Hook for everything and getting her strength from him / believing him when he believes in her when she gives everyone else who does grief about it including her parents for being “infuriatingly optimistic” when she’s scared about whether she can save him or not (even though she’s determined to do it and like Hook says, he’s never seen her fail)
- SwanFire – no relationship moments alone, no talk of belief, only an acceptance that maybe Henry is the one good thing that came out of them being together and that saving him is the most important thing which it is (for both of them especially as well as everyone else)
So basically we watched Snowing and RumBelle and CaptainSwan all have these moments that were both relationship-related in a positive way as well as focusing on the belief in each other that holds them together and the genuine feelings and gathering strength from their love and using it to go forward and do whatever needs to be done so that they can be together.
- Snowing – Snow is willing to stay in NL, even away from EMMA, so that she can be with Charming because they need to be TOGETHER
- RumBelle – Rumple tells Ariel to let Belle know that she was right, she WILL see him again (prompting a look from Regina like “Do you really want to give her that much hope? We have a ways to go still to defeating Pan…”) where he is confident that they WILL be TOGETHER no matter what
- CaptainSwan – Hook tells Emma that he WILL win her heart and after they get Henry out of NL (which he believes without question that they WILL), THEN they can make steps toward being together because he believes that Emma WILL choose him which again means them being TOGETHER
And then Swanfire – Henry may be the only good thing and that’s enough.
One of these things just is not like the other one and it’s all within the same episode that is focusing on each of these things being highly relevant.
Was so so happy to see more of JMO’s comments because it really is praising Hook and talking about how selfless he’s being and that Emma is being surprised by him in a GOOD WAY and that he’s genuinely HELPING HER and that he’s doing for her things that nobody else has and he will ALWAYS BE IMPORTANT TO HER no matter what. These are all very POSITIVE things from the woman who knows way more about Emma than any of us do and she’s saying that Hook is a GOOD THING in Emma’s life which is what we’ve been saying all along.
Emma may be a savior but she’s not a saint either. JMO has even said that Emma is a bit of a pirate herself at times. We haven’t seen tons of her past yet but there’s enough in it for her to recognize that Snow and Charming see her one way and have no idea the life she’s led (she pointed that out in S2 about not being a good enough mother) and we’ve seen that they don’t know tons about it based on the way they’re behaving right now.
Chomping at the bit for the next episode!!! So sad that we have a week off after that (stupid AMAs, grr) and I have no idea how we’ll survive the hiatus after that but S3 has been so good to us and I have faith it will continue to be! Looking forward to something new to pour over within context and find out what’s actually said in moments rather than guessing and filling in the blanks!
Headcanon is fun but all too often it fills up the blanks that we eventually get information to fill in and it gets blurred together or that other interpretation of what might happen refuses to go away and I feel like Hook especially gets the brunt of that (especially with the pirate stuff that automatically gets all kinds of other horrible things thrown at him we’ve seen no evidence for) but in the long run I fully expect the CaptainSwan love story to be flushed out more and more and in such a way that people will ultimately be happy seeing EMMA be happy. That’s what I want above all for her and Killian makes her smile. Can’t wait until we see them taking advantage of the little moments here and there like Snowing and grabbing a kiss or a hug! Emma deserves to be happy and actually enjoy a man’s company and I could totally see them being affectionate like Snowing is once Emma’s walls come down and she accepts how much Killian means to her! (We also need for her to call him Killian and admit she loves him – both of these things will be huge but we must be patient – hopefully not for too long!) I still think at some point, since we’ve seen Rumple reattach limbs and we’ve known since Skin Deep that he has Hook’s preserved hand, that someday we will see Emma reattach it and literally and figuratively make him whole again and let him be Killian again (which she is the only one who has ever been able to do that, not even Milah could make him the man he once was and wants to be again which IS very important!). So excited!
Best versions of themselves, belief, trust – all of these things are extremely important and only a few of the reasons why I completely believe in CaptainSwan. Yay for S3 being so good to us!
Edited to add: now I feel compelled to go watch Syfy’s “Alice” mini-series! Not one of my favorites ever but I do really love Halice! As much as I adore Jefferson/Sebastian Stan, Andrew Lee Potts will always be the Hatter I fell in love with and tumblr people are making tons of gifsets comparing CaptainSwan to Halice now as well. FEELS! (If you haven’t watched it you should just for Hatter and Alice. It makes up for everything else. Trust me!)
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Happy Once day! 🙂
@MysteryKat – so agree with all the points you raised, especially the one about the bridge leading AWAY from Neal, which, now that I think about it, WAS pretty weird!
And yes, the arguments that CS is fan service are all BS. IF you’re looking you can see everything is there from the start. WE have been the ones interpreting everything correctly.
Friendly reminder that this happened in the not-too-distant past! 😉
Source: http://muckfuffins.tumblr.com/post/66617133390/captain-swan-appreciation-week-2-0-day-7
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Funny story – both Killian and Emma are talking about the same thing here! 🙂
Source: http://cynmoon.tumblr.com/post/67243978551/03×04-vs-03×08
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Happy Once day to all of you! 🙂
MysteryKat, the thing with the bridge I get only now as you pointed it out. And it’s a great point!
Eala, thanks for the gifs – I always smile, when I see them. This is real and it’s happening. 🙂
I don’t even wanna start talking about the people saying that CS is fanservice. That is crap. It was there since season 1 and btw they are a lot SF-fans, too! So, they could easily turn SF into fanservice and do that. But they don’t because they tell their story and don’t change things because fans want them to do. They never done that and will never do that! This is Kitswitz we’re talking about! Wow, this really bugs me and I’m angry that people downgrade CS to “fanservice”. I’m happy that at least here in this forum nobody says that. 🙂
Something for you to relive this moment, I put this together for you guys after 3×05 aired, so enjoy. 😉
Eala, thanks for the gifs – I always smile, when I see them. This is real and it’s happening.
You’re welcome – and absolutely!!! 🙂
Wow, this really bugs me and I’m angry that people downgrade CS to “fanservice”.
Don’t let it get to you! They’re just running scared. Remember: We saw that CS was going to happen FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, whereas those who are now saying that CS are fanservice…. DIDN’T.
I love the video moraha, especially the parts where you slowed down the kiss, all the better to see the details 😉
Btw, I made a proper account, i’m still Eala, but no longer logging in with my facebook, in case you guys were wondering about the fact that my picture has changed, lol.
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