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November 17, 2013 at 9:11 am #224393
obisgirl
ParticipantHappy Once day!
And yes, the arguments that CS is fan service are all BS. IF you’re looking you can see everything is there from the start. WE have been the ones interpreting everything correctly.
Happy Once Day!
Adam has also said repeatedly on twitter:
@KellGreen1 yep! Not changing story for anyone. Hope you all like It!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) November 8, 2013
[adrotate group="5"]November 17, 2013 at 12:20 pm #224421CaptainEala
ParticipantOMG, just saw this on tumblr:
Rumple, to David (flashback; 1×06): “…Should you survive, you shall come home the conquering hero. Now, don’t tell me you don’t want that?”
David, to Hook (3×05): “Come with me and make sure the sextant gets back to Emma. Ready to be a hero?”
Regina, to David (2×01): “You think you’re some heroic prince? Please. You’re nothing but the son of a shepherd.”
David, to Hook (3×05): “[Emma’s] never gonna like you. How could she? You’re nothing but a pirate.”
No, but like, IT’S ALL THERE, IN THE FREAKING DIALOGUE
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
November 17, 2013 at 2:13 pm #224432MysteryKat25
ParticipantNothing like starting off Once Day with more feels! I hadn’t even noticed that! LOVE parallels! Love, love, love them!
As for the bridge thing I was looking at a nice gifset on tumblr and then I realized when the bridge formed it was away from Neal. You would think it would start toward him so that they (or rather Emma) could make it further and further across and then build the last part, but instead they built it away from him which I consider significant.
Yep, it was all there totally from the start. No doubt in my mind. There’s just too many things for it not to have been and they worked so hard to get the right to Hook in the first place and really really wanted him for S1 so instead of actually getting him we get little nods toward him. That doll in the nursery? No point to it. Having his hand (still preserved I might add) and in Gold’s possession? Why show it until S2 and Hook were a sure thing? It was all setup all along. We even have a taste of our music during significant moments in Tallahassee so it was NEVER a one-sided thing in that episode.
We got a whole episode devoted to Hook (even though its title character was Rumple), and no Emma in it at all. It was setting up as much backstory as it could in that moment that was relevant for us to understand where HE was coming from, much like Tallahassee was a highlight reel of Emma’s past to understand where SHE was coming from. Yet we haven’t seen anything that was just Neal. We’ve seen Bae with relation to Rumple and Hook, but we haven’t seen any backstory of Neal as an adult.
If they wanted it to be a triangle of anything other than Emma’s emotions / her walls / the past vs future I feel like we would have already. Something to build both sides up really really well. But that hasn’t been happening. We have just enough info as to why she’s upset with him and rightly so, but we didn’t watch them fall in love. We saw them meet, then actually being a couple and stealing together, and then him being talked into leaving her behind which is why she didn’t trust HOOK. It all related back to explaining her relationship with HOOK.
Can’t wait til tonight! SO MUCH going on in this episode it feels like! I’m really looking forward to the group reuniting and the DarlingFire reunion and hopefully some Neal/Rumple stuff too. THOSE are the relationships I want to see him work on (that and Henry), because that’s what I needed from Bae in S1 and I really think that’s where the majority of his storyline is and always has been. I’d also love to see Tink interact with Neal again or have some time with Hook and of course I’m looking forward to seeing the CaptainSwan dynamics! She’s reaching for him in one of the promo shots I saw people discussing on tumblr. He goes to follow the group or something and she grabs his arm to stop him for a sec so I’m VERY curious what that’s about. On the bright side we don’t have to beg for airspace this season! So thankful we get actual interaction and progression that isn’t just us guessing and saying they’re perfect for each other from a distance and we’ve called so much already! Only a few more hours!!! Not gonna survive with one week off after tonight. There better be an amazing promo and lots of sneaks or something cause AHH!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
November 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm #224433oncemusicfan
ParticipantHappy Once day, everyone! Great gifs and videos and points about parallels! I was briefly a Swanfire shipper and even I could see that CS had a strong connection…it’s the reason I jumped shipped over the summer! I could no longer deny that Hook and Emma make quite the exciting couple! They have FUEGO! That is what is important with an on-screen couple. Sure, Emma and Neal are kind of cute together, but I’ve never seen any fuego or passion or the type of connection that Emma has with Hook. Any type of romantic relationship whether ficitional or real, needs FUEGO. That’s what keeps things interesting. It’s a fact of life.
If anything, this season has proved how PERFECT for each other Emma and Hook really are. Going back to rewatch episodes of last season, with SO many clues, also proves this to me. Saying that CS is fanservice is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks Obisgirl for posting that tweet from Adam, which goes to show that these guys are the telling the story they planned from the beginning. It’s THEIR story and it’s what they want to tell! So even if Emma ends up with Neal (which I don’t think will EVER happen!) I will have to respect that it’s the story Eddy and Adam want to tell. That’s all.
I am so excited to see where they go with this story and I am hoping for a lovely CS journey! I think Neal would be able to lose Emma to Hook graciously, because he’s lost her before. He let her go and moved on with his life by being with Tamara. He could see a life without Emma and was genuinely going to have one. Hook on the “other hand” (pun intended!), is completely different when it comes to love. It took him HUNDREDS of years to get over Milah, his first love. He never even thought he’d be able to do that! If Emma were proven to be his True Love but he lost her to Neal, I seriously doubt he’d just be able to move on with someone else, like Neal did with Tamara. I think it would be devastating to him and I really don’t want him to go through that. He’s already lost everyone who ever truly cared about him. It would be awful to see that again.
On a brighter note, I really don’t see things happening that way! CS seems to have been planned from the beginning and I can’t wait for Hook and Emma to have their happy ending together.
November 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm #224440CaptainEala
ParticipantSO MUCH going on in this episode it feels like!
Yes, it looks like a jam-packed episode alright! I’ll be super happy if we get one good scene between CS just because of all the action. But yeah, I agree, it looks like she lags behind everyone in the promo and gets his attention. Can’t wait to see what she says!!!!!!
I think Neal would be able to lose Emma to Hook graciously, because he’s lost her before.
I think he’s already starting the process! At least that’s what I got from his line last week – he was basically saying that they SHOULD be putting Henry first, which is right. But at the same time, with that line he was also taking a step BACK from the fight for Emma. Which, when he said last week that he “would never stop fighting for her. Never”, pretty much says to me that when it comes to Emma the fight is just not there. The CONVICTION is just not there. Whereas Killian – will never give up, not unless she sends him away, which she isn’t going to do lol.
I can’t wait for Hook and Emma to have their happy ending together.
(that gif is such a perfect representation of all my CS feelings, lol)
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
November 17, 2013 at 3:47 pm #224444CaptainEala
ParticipantA true soul mate is a mirror of yourself, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life. They have the one thing you don’t have which is the introspection to help you become great. What use is a soul mate if they can’t help free you from yourself so you can live your life mission?
http://carrielynne.tumblr.com/post/67287948328/a-true-soul-mate-is-a-mirror-of-yourself-the
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
November 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm #224456surayya
ParticipantHappy Once day guys! LOVE those gifs Eala & that Soul Mates quote- fits Captain Swan perfectly 🙂
November 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm #224473CaptainEala
ParticipantLol – I’M JUST GOING TO LEAVE THIS HERE
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Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
November 17, 2013 at 6:36 pm #224474MysteryKat25
ParticipantI just came here to make sure it was posted! Trying not to hyperventilate but failing miserably!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
November 17, 2013 at 7:01 pm #224478killianhookfan
ParticipantAhhh!! Seriously, the gifs of Emma/Hook sniffing and twirling the key/coin . . . I can’t even . . .!!!!
That is so totally what I have been saying all along about how I wouldn’t want my daughter to get back together with the guy she was a thief with – when Emma snifs and twirls it’s because she is being encouraged to steal by Neal (it even rhymes). But when Hook snifs and twirls Emma is encouraging him NOT to steal and even though he WANTS to figure out how much he can take back with him – he decides not to bother since Emma doesn’t want him to. SF bring out the worst in each other, CS bring out the best in each other.
And how ANYONE can watch those gifs and NOT figure out that CS was always meant to be endgame is beyond me!!
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