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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • December 4, 2013 at 6:01 pm #228025
    PriceofMagic
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    Has anyone written any or knows any CaptainSwan fics that shows how Hook interacts with everybody else including Neal. Preferably something that’s not overlong and no smut fics.

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    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    December 4, 2013 at 6:40 pm #228033
    obisgirl
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    Take this poll with me!Vote on the TV couple with the hottest sexual tension of 2013! http://t.co/XP8cgGZjdS

    — obisgirl (@_obisgirl) December 4, 2013

    Hook and Emma are in the lead 🙂

    December 4, 2013 at 6:57 pm #228041
    jenven
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    so I guess I can understand Neal/Bae leaving Emma in a way… Neal/Bae knows magic exists so August/Pinocchio’s story sounds plausible.  And lets say for the sake of argument that true love does not exist… this is just plain old love.

    What I do not understand is why they had to send her to jail… seems to me that other arrangements could have been made.  I can understand him not going to SB after the postcard… a little cowardice does not need to run in the family for human nature to take over and be afraid of her potential anger and rejection.  I can understand moving on and dating someone else.  But after all that time, no spark when you meet again?  Nothing?  It had to be nothing… because no man is bringing his new fiancee to his old flame’s town to get to know their love child.  And at every turn he doubts Emma.  If there was a flame burning it was pretty darn dim.

     

    Now introduce True Love… NO WAY, NO HOW was the other half of supposed True Love sending his woman to jail and fleeing the country in the night like the thief he was.  Especially to do a prison sentence for his crime.  Nope… Not Happening.  You see in Snowing… THEY will do back flips to work something out.  Charming would have done everything possible to help Snow fulfill her destiny without sending her to jail.  And if there was no way around it, she had to go it alone, he would have removed HIMSELF from the equation first.  Then that postcard would have been on fire as fast as he would have been out that door on his way to SB with the bag that has been packed for 10 years waiting.

    So while I like Neal/Bae – I cannot get on board for SF and I feel bad if they think that is a relationship worth resurrecting, fixing, saving…

    And I agree… Neal/Bae’s story is about him and his father and the issues between Father and Son each generation.  I was so glad to see Neal hug Rumple and call him ‘Poppa.’  I was all kinds of feels.  I want to see more of them reconnecting and having a solid Father Son Grandson relationship.

    And as for the Captain Swan is Sexy and Fun… no kidding… but its not all fluff and lust.  This man has spent 300 years trying to avenge his lost love.  That puts even Charming’s dedication to shame.  We all know there is meaning in CS… all the wonderful posts with examples proving it.

     

    December 4, 2013 at 7:05 pm #228046
    jenven
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    so we all saw Hook’s past in ‘GoodForm’… does anyone think that Emma will ever find out some of that back story?  Hook is pretty tight lipped… at least where his past is concerned.

    Hey maybe SB can start a navy to protect from new threats and Captain Jones and the Jolly Roger can be part of … well the whole navy.  lol.  I guess he would need to get a crew… hey win win… i doubt the economy of SB is anything fantastic.  New jobs is a plus of whichever Royal is in charge trying to boost their approval ratings.  ha ha… just a silly thought that popped in my head.

    December 4, 2013 at 7:35 pm #228049
    MysteryKat25
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    I think overtime they’ll learn each other’s stories. We know that Emma knows at least a little bit about the events in Good Form since Charming told her about Hook’s brother Liam and that they were here once and Pan tricked him and that he died from the Dreamshade so she has some vague idea that that might be a big part of why he is so closed off to most people.

    She wouldn’t know the details but it’s reminiscent of their scenes on the beanstalk. Hints at her being afraid to trust because of a past love, hints at him wanting revenge for more than just the cutting off of his hand (Emma noticed the tattoo and he reacted differently to it, something that was brought up again when his secret was revealed since she alone knew how much Milah meant to him) etc etc. They know bits and pieces, enough to read each other pretty well most of the time, but we haven’t had any indication that they’ve actually verbally connected the dots yet.

    It’s why some of the “reveals” between them of their history I don’t expect to be such big things. It’s mostly stuff that they’ll have put together in their minds a bit before that, and it’ll just be confirmation that those pieces fit where they imagined they did. Much like Hook realizing who it was that hurt Emma so long ago and shut her off from letting herself love and trust when he learned who Henry’s dad is. Emma has had many hints about Milah and when she learns who she was (I’m assuming she’ll actually learn this at some point, it has to be brought up eventually and I’m kinda annoyed that Rumple and Bae haven’t talked about it once, especially when Neal was still furious with him), that it’ll just be one of those moments where it takes her a second to compute it like it does with all the family tree branches she wasn’t aware of, and then it’ll be a dawning moment of “of course” because his prior comments will make a heck of a lot more sense now (like him saying that Bae got his drawing skills from his mother).

    I’d love for Hook to tell her more about his Navy days and I bet we’ll get some of that eventually. I think it’ll come from the CaptainCharming bond though because he’ll finally have good leaders to serve and can bring that stuff up about how much it means to him to be serving someone honorable.

    I’ve always loved that with some characters we hear about the “right” thing to do and then we have people like Charming and Hook that talk about the “honorable” thing to do. Quite often these things are rather interchangeable but I love that both Charming and Hook use those terms. I look forward to future rewatches when I can be on the lookout for that specific stuff but it always strikes me that both men use that particular phrasing. Love it!

    As for today’s other news, yay for Rapunzel! Doesn’t fit the look I can dress up like which is what I was hoping (bummer) and she’s younger so probably no Flynn either, but I love that we’re actually getting to see her! (I was afraid we wouldn’t because it was so recent that they might stay away from it). No idea who’s story she connects with yet though. Hmm.

    Some people in the fandom apparently think that CSers think Emma and Killian actually are Rapunzel and Flynn. Um, huh? No no no no no. We enjoy the many many many parallels to the Tangled version of Rapunzel but Emma is just Emma! We’ve always known that! (I thought the fandom understood that by now too but apparently not?) but there are still many nods to THAT version of the story that we can love all we want to! The reason Emma fits in so well in the story is because she embodies enough Fairy Tale traits from VARIOUS stories that she fits into that universe without much trouble. She’s still very much raised in our world and struggles to find her place within the fairy tale community she finds herself in, but there are aspects of her story that connect to ALL of the others (which is helpful since in order to SEE their stories, there has to be something that connects them back to Emma or the other core characters of the show, otherwise what’s the point?)

    I love that we get nods from so many things that the creators love for sure though. Star Wars and Princess Bride are huge things for them that we’re likely not to actually see any version of so it’s great to know that those influences are in there, just like Tangled and anything else that reminds us of our couple, but at the end of the day Emma and Killian are their OWN love story and it’s beautiful!

    As to Hook beating Charming’s dedication…in all fairness he has lived a bit longer! 😉 But it’s what I love about how perfect these two are and how similar to each other that they are, albeit different too. It harkens back to even more stuff we saw in the pilot about how Charming is very much about “What’s 28 years when you have eternal love?” and not being worried about it. Similarly Hook has spent centuries trying to avenge the death of the woman he loved. They get it. It doesn’t matter how much time it takes, as annoying as long breaks are, as long as you mean it with your whole heart and will do whatever it takes to get back to each other.

    Snowing: I will always find you. Did you ever doubt I would?

    CaptainSwan: As you wish. Does that surprise you?

    Absolute perfection on so many levels. I realize many don’t want to hold to the things in the pilot because that was before it was picked up and there’s the issue with the apple reasoning etc, but there are SOME things that they did set up that early on that they still go back to. One of the things I love that people pointed out on tumblr lately (besides the knight and pirate/navy dolls protecting the crib, or the fact that everywhere Emma goes, there are ships and ship’s wheels and water etc etc), that shortly after we meet  Emma Swan, she makes a wish not to be alone and then Henry shows up. (AKA True Love #1 – mother/son relationship).

    Her whole life has been manipulated and quite possibly even more than we already know. She’s big on choices and making things happen and not relying on “fairy godmothers” to fix things, but she still makes a wish. So now in Season 3, when things start realllly heading toward her finding romance and having to make a choice at some point, we have one option for her that is literally telling her “As you wish” and doing whatever he can to make her happy, even when it runs a huge chance of him facing rejection and getting his heart shattered after finally putting it back together.

    Also fun to note that someone did a gifset of on tumblr (I feel like it was brought over here already but can’t remember now!) that Hook is in complete control of his ship and is firm about how he’s the one that gives the orders, but the moment Emma says something it’s “As you wish” and he dashes off to get them out of there, lol. Love it!

    I fully expect Hook to be in good with the Charmings and happy to help out in whatever way he can. Not sure if they have need of a navy really, but the Charmings’ castle is surrounded by water so at least there’s lots of parking spaces for the Jolly Roger! 😉 Plus I expect him to become a part of their council group someday when they get back to FTL and be a part of fixing things. He’s becoming more and more trusted and close to them so I wouldn’t see why not.

    BTS shots from 3×10 make me so happy! He’s up talking to the Charmings and they look like they might be sticking up for him while Grumpy is kinda side-eyeing him which is totally reminiscent of him being skeptical of Charming – aka: good sign. Win over Charming? Check. Win over Grumpy? Working on. Also it looks like we might get a Grumpy/Emma hug! He’s so protective of and close to Snow and we haven’t gotten to see him a whole lot with Emma so I hope that’s the case! He had a huge smile on his face and his arms were open wide so I hope it’s a Grumpy/Emma hug. He’s practically her godfather if you think about it! I’m still curious about who the group is looking at though. Seems like almost everyone is off the ship and standing on shore already but the group is out there smiling and looking in the same direction. I wonder what’s happening!

    Can’t wait til Sunday! I need a new episode to analyze!

    Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

    December 4, 2013 at 7:52 pm #228054
    jenven
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    Hook is in complete control of his ship and is firm about how he’s the one that gives the orders, but the moment Emma says something it’s “As you wish” and he dashes off to get them out of there, lol. Love it!


    Yes… cute.  Just needs a ‘Yes Dear.’

     

    I’ve always loved that with some characters we hear about the “right” thing to do and then we have people like Charming and Hook that talk about the “honorable” thing to do. Quite often these things are rather interchangeable but I love that both Charming and Hook use those terms. I look forward to future rewatches when I can be on the lookout for that specific stuff but it always strikes me that both men use that particular phrasing. Love it!

     

    Definitely.  I agree… even without Emma I think I would like to see a friendship between Charming and Hook.  And I do also hope that Neal/Bae and Hook can repair their relationship as well… also regardless of Emma.  They cared for each other once and would like to see that again.

     

    Grumpy is kinda side-eyeing him which is totally reminiscent of him being skeptical of Charming – aka: good sign. Win over Charming? Check. Win over Grumpy? Working on.

    I think Grumpy / Hook interactions will be a little funny and hoping that they do some once they are back in SB or EF or whatever the next stop is.

    December 4, 2013 at 8:12 pm #228058
    oncemusicfan
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    And as for the Captain Swan is Sexy and Fun… no kidding… but its not all fluff and lust. This man has spent 300 years trying to avenge his lost love. That puts even Charming’s dedication to shame. We all know there is meaning in CS… all the wonderful posts with examples proving it.

    I just had to say how much I AGREE with this! CS definitely has depth, and it is very obvious to many of us watching the show. If they didn’t, I wouldn’t ship them at all. I think the writers and actors have done a wonderful job at showing the depth of these characters and the CS relationship so far.

    December 4, 2013 at 8:14 pm #228060
    oncemusicfan
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    I KNOW AND I’M FLAILING wow that’s accurate PRAYER CIRCLE FOR CS PARALLELS

    This is great! Haha! 🙂

    December 4, 2013 at 8:21 pm #228067
    Killian Jones
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    Apparently with the PCA voting they have become aware of some ships voting by less than honest means! Can you believe that!? Some of the million plus votes may have been gained through cheating! Are you as shocked as I am?!

    December 4, 2013 at 9:38 pm #228079
    surayya
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    Apparently with the PCA voting they have become aware of some ships voting by less than honest means! Can you believe that!? Some of the million plus votes may have been gained through cheating! Are you as shocked as I am?!

    Seriously?! That is shocking! I thought they had set it up so auto electronic voting couldnt be done :/ Seems where there is a will, there is a way 🙁  Wish the crazies would stay in their holes & under their rocks, rather than doing stupid stuff like cheating to win :/

     

    As for those saying ‘CS is shallow/ fun & fluff’- I say ‘1) What show are they watching?! & 2) Whatever’ *rolls eyes*- They are just saying whatever they can to try make themselves feel better about their own ship’s prospects, it seems they’re now trying to reduce our own ship to the level they feel their’s is at, so it’s really their own problem, not ours 😉

     

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