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I’m really surprised that I haven’t seen anyone talking about this. I mean, Emma starts having doubts about Henry and the first thing she does is look to Hook.
All throughout the Neverland arc Emma would always look to Hook when ever she needed support or guidance. Whether it was knowledge about Neverland itself (where she could have asked Neal) or having someone believe in her or even just trusting him to be honest with her (not accepting that Neal could be alive until he confirmed). AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. The very second Emma realizes that something is wrong she immediately looks to HOOK just like she did in Neverland.
The only difference now is that Emma is literally surrounded by friends and family and she can’t just tell herself that she its because he knows the land and their enemy.CRYING
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The talent on our ship is just remarkable. I literally got tears in my eyes from this fanvid.
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Sorry for all the posts guys! Lol actually no i’m not
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[…] It’s been noted that Hook put his flask away for good after confessing his feelings for Emma, so it’s worth noting again that when Hook thought he forfeited his chance with Emma, he got drunk. Emma helped him discover Killian Jones again, but, without her or the hope she represents, it was easier to slip back into being Captain Hook.
However, this Captain Hook isn’t the charming, flask-toting pirate of Season Two. He’s kind of pathetic. He’s drunk enough for Tink to notice in the middle of the afternoon, and it’s clear that stepping back from Emma (and having her not seek him out) is hurting him beyond anything he’d expected. So he offered Tink rum from his flask, hoping that sharing it with another blonde would help him pretend he was with Emma instead. And when Tink insinuated that he wanted more than just a shared drink, he tried to turn on the charm but the light never reached his eyes. (Kudos to Colin O’Donoghue for playing that perfectly.) He was drunk and lonely and lost (his words to Tink reflect his own feelings about being alone in Storybrooke), and, more than anything, he was human.
It may have felt a little out-of-character for Hook upon a first watch, but remember: Hook has a self-loathing and self-destructive streak to rival anyone’s on this show, so this sad little display of desperately wanting to lose himself was painfully in-character.
When Charming was talking to Emma, he talked about finding good moments in between the bad ones, and perhaps Emma meeting Neal at Granny’s could have been a good moment. (Neal trying to ask her out was very cute.) But the first thing I thought of was the way Emma told Snow back in Neverland that she kissed Hook because she felt good. In the middle of all the pain that island put her through, that kiss was one time—one of the only times on the show—where she seized a good moment and didn’t end up hurt for doing so. It was one time she did what her father was asking her to do—choose happiness.
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Okay guys sorry for all the posts but there’s lots of stuff i want to share with those of you who don’t use tumblr!!! 🙂
Hook flirts with an old friend while not being in a relationship with Emma: worst human being, cheat, scoundrel
Neal lets Emma go to prison while actually being in a relationship with her, then moves on with his life and gets engaged: poor, misunderstood, Emma’s true love
I’m failing to understand the logic
http://gentlesleaze.tumblr.com/post/69589288267/hook-flirts-with-an-old-friend-while-not-being-in
(PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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One thing i’m interested in actually! @HappyEndings, if you’re around, what did you think of the Tink/Hook scene?? What do you think Hook’s feelings were etc.? I’m interested in a non-shippy perspective 🙂
There was nothing between them I think they had a fling and that is it and apparently Tink doesn’t want anything to do with Hook now that is her past. 🙂
So I would like to make a few friendly arguments against some of the things that I have been reading on SF sites.
We says very often that we believe CS is endgame because Neal doesn’t seem to serve much of a purpose in advancing individual episode story lines and that he is the person who seems to be in the way of CS, not the other way around. And when there is a “moment” between Emma and Neal we are always shown Killian’s reaction to it but we are never shown Neal’s reaction to CS moments because Neal’s reaction isn’t important since he is just a plot device and not a real relationship threat.
So after the last episode I have seen two things in particular being said by SF folks in response to the above. First, they are saying that if CS if supposed to be endgame and it is so important to see Killian’s reaction to SF moments, why didn’t we see Killian’s reaction to Neal asking Emma out on a date? Their argument is that, using our logic, since we weren’t shown Killian’s reaction this must have been a HUGE deal and was meant to show that SF is really moving moving forward. I totally disagree. Killian had JUST told Neal that he was backing off because he wanted to give Henry a chance to have his parents make a go of it without a pirate involved. Neal responds “Really? Thanks, man.” After that exchange why on earth would we need to see Killian’s reaction to Neal asking Emma out? He KNEW he was going to ask her out – there was absolutely no reaction for us to see. When we are given reactions it is so we can see deep emotional angst or concern. Killian was the one who made the decision to step back so he knew that Neal would immediately ask her out. He also warned Neal that he isn’t entirely sure that Emma will take him back so Killian wasn’t necessarily going to have much of a reaction at all to Neal asking Emma out. Now if Emma had squealed with delight, jumped up and down with happiness, shouted yes, and kissed Neal there is no doubt in my mind – we would have been given a reaction by Killian.
Next, SF fans are arguing that if SF isn’t really going to happen we wouldn’t have been given the scene of Neal alone in the diner when Emma didn’t show up. I agree that we were given that scene for a specific reason but I don’t think it is for the reasons that the SF fans want. Go back and watch it. SF fans are talking about how sad and depressed he looks. Really? I see a guy sitting alone drinking a cup a coffee who does look like he’s thinking about something but he doesn’t look sad or depressed to me. Keep in mind Neal’s history. He tends to say something and then immediately does the opposite. Tallahassee – we’re going home, nope I’m abandoning you. August – If something changes with the curse let me know, oh wait I’m getting engaged. NL – I’ll never stop fighting for you, well if the only thing that comes from us is Henry than that’s great. Back in SB – I really want to date her but if she doesn’t show up I’ll leave her alone.
So we get this scene where we see Neal just sitting in a diner calmly drinking a cup of coffee. Then we see Emma clearly freaking out and upset about Henry and about not being able to relax (hmmm . . . see a problem there??) because she always feels like something bad is going to happen and she is going to have to stop it but she doesn’t know how. So Daddy Charming swoops in to remind her that she needs to learn to enjoy the good moments in spite of the bad. Now when was the last time Emma said she felt good??? When she kissed Killian? When was the last time she looked relaxed?? When she and Killian were talking in NL and Killian told her he believed that she would find Henry because he had yet to see her fail at anything. And when was the last time she looked really moved by what someone said?? When Killian told her his secret in Echo Cave. ALL of those things were good moments that happened in the midst of bad – just like what Charming was talking to Emma about and what the flashback of Snowing was meant to show us.
So Emma asks Daddy Charming “And you think having lunch with Neal would be a good moment?” The issue is – she already KNOWS she has had good moments with Killian!! She doesn’t HAVE to wonder about that. She tried to talk to her mother about that. I am actually beginning to think that Daddy Charming has already figured out that Emma is in love with Killian. Twice in this episode he made comments about how Emma and Snow are exactly like each other, and he knows that you can’t tell Snow to do anything – she has to figure it out on her own. Which means that he wouldn’t be able to tell Snow to stop forcing Neal on Emma and which also means that he knows Emma is going to have to figure out that she loves Killian all on her own. And although we tend to read the advice he gives her as trying to steer her towards Neal – if you listen to what he says, it actually makes a whole lot of sense if he is thinking that he knows she should pick Killian. Especially in the way he answered her when she asked if he was trying to keep her away from Hook. When she asked if he thought having lunch with Neal would be a moment he only said there is only one way to find out and that he would drive her to Granny’s. And ALL of us agree that Emma HAS to deal with Neal before she can really move on with Hook. I think Daddy Charming might have figured this out too but is just being a good Dad and trying to be supportive and give her advice without putting the kind if pressure on her that Snow does. He knows it’s her decision and he wants her to be happy. I think he has a lot of respect for Killian and knows that he loves his daughter very much.
But, as usual, I got off topic.
Anyway, we go from calm Neal to freaking out Emma and then we get super depressed Hook. The funny part is that SF folks are criticizing his character and not even getting that they are doing EXACTLY what the show WANTS people to be doing. They are saying that he serves no purpose now and that they could remove him from the show and it wouldn’t matter. Bravo writers!!!! Mission accomplished!!!! He is Captain freaking Hook. He came back to SB because he loves Emma but because as Captain Hook he knows his way around a ship, he knows his way in and out of sticky situations, he’s the guy you want around if you are heading somewhere dangerous and need someone who can be threatening, he was the expert on NL, etc, etc. He is Mr. Super overly confident and cocky. Now he is back in SB, Emma isn’t really speaking to him, she is trying to get Henry reassimilated, he realizes the best thing for Henry is to step back so Emma can choose Neal if she wants him and he realizes that he suddenly has no purpose. In NL he suddenly remembered who he was – a man of honor because Emma made him remember that he could be a part of something honorable and he wanted to be her hero. Now that they are back in SB he feels none of that – he has done the honorable thing but without Emma he is lost. So he feels as if he serves no purpose as well.
So we have calm Neal, freaking out Emma, and depressed Killian.
I honestly believe that at the end of the day the ONLY reason Neal and Emma even consider being together again is because of Henry. I think they are both so paranoid about the orphan thing that they don’t even take a good hard look at Henry’s life. That kid is as far from an orphan as any kid could ever be. He is related in one way or another to almost everyone in town and even those he isn’t related to love him like a family member. They are just never going to be right together.
Then you have Emma and Killian. And as far as far as I can tell they are all kinds of right together but as soon as they are apart they fall to pieces. They remind me more and more of Snowing every day just with more intense personalities.
Now, I will say that I do like Neal a bit more since he has reconciled with Rumple. The brooding teenager act was getting old. And it is nice to see him smile. And I liked that he said he wanted to talk to Emma because they do need to talk. And I DO want to see him end up with someone but so far I just don’t see him click with anyone. And like everyone else, I am really hoping for some CF back story and non-Emma discussions as well. I did like the brief banter they had about Granny’s not serving rum and Hook hanging out with the dwarves.
There was nothing between them I think they had a fling and that is it and apparently Tink doesn’t want anything to do with Hook now that is her past.
Lol – thanks! 🙂
why didn’t we see Killian’s reaction to Neal asking Emma out on a date?
Oh ho, they could not be more wrong. What we saw was a VERY DRUNK KILLIAN, in HUGE emotional pain, looking for comfort and escape from his loneliness in Tink.
That is the reaction. And to be quite honest it was a huge one. Killian was spiraling out of control – just like we see when other TLs are apart.
And honestly, it’s quite hypocritical to go on about how the lack of pan to Killian’s face means something when, oh yeah, there were SEVERAL lack of pans to Neals face during CS moments.
SF fans are talking about how sad and depressed he looks.
I think Neal looked forlorn – but that isn’t the er… appropriate reaction to losing your TL. Snow took the memory loss potion. Charming was equally unhappy – he even cried when Snow told him she didn’t love him.
Emma and Killian were both absolutely miserable in this episode, the episode where Killian decided to back off from Emma. That tells me something.
Then you have Emma and Killian. And as far as far as I can tell they are all kinds of right together but as soon as they are apart they fall to pieces. They remind me more and more of Snowing every day just with more intense personalities.
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And like everyone else, I am really hoping for some CF back story and non-Emma discussions as well. I did like the brief banter they had about Granny’s not serving rum and Hook hanging out with the dwarves.
Yeah me too 🙂
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I think what they mean is why didn’t we see an immediate shot of Killian’s face when Neal asked Emma out like we see typically see immediate shots of Killian’s reaction. I still think it is because asking Emma out on a date was nothing – Killian knew that was coming so there was nothing to see, she didn’t even give him an answer. SF are trying to say that Neal asking Emma out is this huge deal because there wasn’t an immediate shot of Killian’s face.
I think the Killian/Tink scene was more his reaction to his own realization of what HE had done by making the decision to step back. He did it to himself – Neal had nothing to do with it. But this just goes to prove our point, we got the long scene of a depressed Killian instead of brief shot of Neal drinking coffee. Who are they trying to emphasize is the one who is depressed? And then we have an interaction between Emma and Hook based upon how Emma interpreted what she saw, yet we get NOTHING about the fact that Emma didn’t show up to Neal’s date??? That speaks volumes!
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