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By seeing whose on the Jolly Roger it just seems like only Emma could get Hook to take them all to Neverland. All these pics just seems like we’re getting a Captain Swan ending to season two.
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@Jolly Roger wrote:
From what I know there are 4 days left of shooting. I wonder if Neal dies. It would make sense, seeing as he is still a guest star and isn’t even a series regular. And maybe Henry is so upset over Neal dying that he goes away to Neverland – it’s a long shot but still possible. I’d be sad if Neal died though, I like the actor, he plays him well.
I don’t think they would kill off Neal quite yet for several reasons:
1. Rumple- The whole point of the curse was for Rumple to be able to find Bae. Rumple has had a lot to deal with this season- Belle’s amnesia, actually finding Bae, nearly dying, finding out that he’s Henry’s grandfather, dealing with the fact that Henry is supposed to be his undoing. To have Bae then die this season would be a little too much drama for one guy to have to deal with in a single season.
2. Emma- Having Neal back in Emma’s life complicates things for her. The only guy Emma loved comes crashing back into her life and it scares her a liitle bit. She wants to protect herself from how she feels about him. She finds out he’s engaged to someone else, and she pretends she doesn’t care but she does really. Emma still loves him but doesn’t want to admit it. She’s built up these emotional walls so the longer Neal’s around, the harder it is for Emma to keep those walls up. There is potential for some great scenes so to kill Neal off this season would just waste that.
3. Henry- Henry has only just got to know his father after Emma lied about him being dead. To then kill Neal off so soon after Henry has bonded with him would just be cruel.
4. Tamara- Tamara is probably going to be the big bad for at least the first half of season 3. They are not going to kill Neal off until he at least finds out how manipulative Tamara is and how she has been playing him since the moment they both met.
Will Neal survive beyond season 3? If he reunites with Rumple and reunites with Emma, what more is there for him to do? Those are the two big storylines for him. If he achieves both of those then it’ll be time to worry about his survival
@steliokontos1 wrote:
By seeing whose on the Jolly Roger it just seems like only Emma could get Hook to take them all to Neverland. All these pics just seems like we’re getting a Captain Swan ending to season two.
Didn’t the writers say, when asked about the possibility of CaptainSwan that Hook would be “fun in Vegas” or something like that. I interpreted that to mean that, if Emma and Hook did hook up, it wouldn’t be a serious relationship but just a bit of fun.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@PriceofMagic wrote:
@Jolly Roger wrote:
From what I know there are 4 days left of shooting. I wonder if Neal dies. It would make sense, seeing as he is still a guest star and isn’t even a series regular. And maybe Henry is so upset over Neal dying that he goes away to Neverland – it’s a long shot but still possible. I’d be sad if Neal died though, I like the actor, he plays him well.
I don’t think they would kill off Neal quite yet for several reasons:
1. Rumple- The whole point of the curse was for Rumple to be able to find Bae. Rumple has had a lot to deal with this season- Belle’s amnesia, actually finding Bae, nearly dying, finding out that he’s Henry’s grandfather, dealing with the fact that Henry is supposed to be his undoing. To have Bae then die this season would be a little too much drama for one guy to have to deal with in a single season.
2. Emma- Having Neal back in Emma’s life complicates things for her. The only guy Emma loved comes crashing back into her life and it scares her a liitle bit. She wants to protect herself from how she feels about him. She finds out he’s engaged to someone else, and she pretends she doesn’t care but she does really. Emma still loves him but doesn’t want to admit it. She’s built up these emotional walls so the longer Neal’s around, the harder it is for Emma to keep those walls up. There is potential for some great scenes so to kill Neal off this season would just waste that.
3. Henry- Henry has only just got to know his father after Emma lied about him being dead. To then kill Neal off so soon after Henry has bonded with him would just be cruel.
4. Tamara- Tamara is probably going to be the big bad for at least the first half of season 3. They are not going to kill Neal off until he at least finds out how manipulative Tamara is and how she has been playing him since the moment they both met.
Will Neal survive beyond season 3? If he reunites with Rumple and reunites with Emma, what more is there for him to do? Those are the two big storylines for him. If he achieves both of those then it’ll be time to worry about his survival
@steliokontos1 wrote:
By seeing whose on the Jolly Roger it just seems like only Emma could get Hook to take them all to Neverland. All these pics just seems like we’re getting a Captain Swan ending to season two.
Didn’t the writers say, when asked about the possibility of CaptainSwan that Hook would be “fun in Vegas” or something like that. I interpreted that to mean that, if Emma and Hook did hook up, it wouldn’t be a serious relationship but just a bit of fun.
I agree, I don’t think they’ll kill off Neal. I hope not. There’s still a lot they can do with him, too. Personally, my own theory is that next season we’ll eventually see Neal again and in the interim, that Hook will have something to do with that. Maybe that’s what draws him, and Emma closer. I have no leg to stand on to say I know for sure that’s where the story is going, but if I were writing it, that’s where I’d take it.
I’d like to see a relationship with Emma and Hook become serious. I’ll be sad if that doesn’t happen. So many of us have been anxious for that for so long, and the chemistry, and opendoors are definitely there, and ready for potential. I’d love to see Hook become a main character on the show (Neal, as well). There’s so much room to develop him. That Leggo block is so versitile, and it’s just begging for somebody to play with it.
I know about first loves, and I know about true loves, and I know Neal is Henry’s father, but…I’d like to see the show place value in the concept of step-families. There’s lots of room for story telling, and those of us who have experience know that while the road can be rocky, true love to be found there, too.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
@Jolly Roger wrote:
From what I know there are 4 days left of shooting. I wonder if Neal dies. It would make sense, seeing as he is still a guest star and isn’t even a series regular. And maybe Henry is so upset over Neal dying that he goes away to Neverland – it’s a long shot but still possible. I’d be sad if Neal died though, I like the actor, he plays him well.
I don’t think they would kill off Neal quite yet for several reasons:
1. Rumple- The whole point of the curse was for Rumple to be able to find Bae. Rumple has had a lot to deal with this season- Belle’s amnesia, actually finding Bae, nearly dying, finding out that he’s Henry’s grandfather, dealing with the fact that Henry is supposed to be his undoing. To have Bae then die this season would be a little too much drama for one guy to have to deal with in a single season.
2. Emma- Having Neal back in Emma’s life complicates things for her. The only guy Emma loved comes crashing back into her life and it scares her a liitle bit. She wants to protect herself from how she feels about him. She finds out he’s engaged to someone else, and she pretends she doesn’t care but she does really. Emma still loves him but doesn’t want to admit it. She’s built up these emotional walls so the longer Neal’s around, the harder it is for Emma to keep those walls up. There is potential for some great scenes so to kill Neal off this season would just waste that.
3. Henry- Henry has only just got to know his father after Emma lied about him being dead. To then kill Neal off so soon after Henry has bonded with him would just be cruel.
4. Tamara- Tamara is probably going to be the big bad for at least the first half of season 3. They are not going to kill Neal off until he at least finds out how manipulative Tamara is and how she has been playing him since the moment they both met.
Will Neal survive beyond season 3? If he reunites with Rumple and reunites with Emma, what more is there for him to do? Those are the two big storylines for him. If he achieves both of those then it’ll be time to worry about his survival
@steliokontos1 wrote:
By seeing whose on the Jolly Roger it just seems like only Emma could get Hook to take them all to Neverland. All these pics just seems like we’re getting a Captain Swan ending to season two.
Didn’t the writers say, when asked about the possibility of CaptainSwan that Hook would be “fun in Vegas” or something like that. I interpreted that to mean that, if Emma and Hook did hook up, it wouldn’t be a serious relationship but just a bit of fun.
They may not kill Neal this season but I believe they will definately kill him off next season. I stand by what I said, if they were planning on keeping Neal long term they would have bumped him up to series regular. Since they didn’t, it just shows that Neal is crucial to the show.
As for the ‘fun in vegas’ thing- That was ages ago! That was when the cast, writers, directors were trying to not give any hints that CS was going to happen. I wouldn’t take that too seriously. You’re looking at one little quote from an interview and ignoring the hundreds of other evidence that shows us CS is happening and, as they say, ‘canon’. What you should look at is, the chemistry, Paleyfest (that was huge for CS), as well as more recent interviews.
Sarah_TN– Don’t wory it will happen 😀 The directors said that they try to please everyone (including different ‘ships’). However in the end they are going to go with what they planned from the beginning – Emma/Hook (which they had actually planned since season 1) 😀
I am probably going to get some major lashing for what I am about to say, but, what can I say, its my opinion.
I really do not like the idea of the CaptainSwan ship. Yes, they seemed to have a bit of chemistry back in Tallahassee, but that was quite a while ago. Since then, they have been working against one another and they definently do not trust each other. As caniving as Hook is, I do not foresee that changing (unless he has some major character developments in the next four episodes).
Hook would flirt with anyone, hes a pirate. This ship just does not seem realistic to me.
@lilysmom wrote:
I am probably going to get some major lashing for what I am about to say, but, what can I say, its my opinion.
I really do not like the idea of the CaptainSwan ship. Yes, they seemed to have a bit of chemistry back in Tallahassee, but that was quite a while ago. Since then, they have been working against one another and they definently do not trust each other. As caniving as Hook is, I do not foresee that changing (unless he has some major character developments in the next four episodes).
Hook would flirt with anyone, hes a pirate. This ship just does not seem realistic to me.
Hook is caniving, but there’s going to be more to him than what meets the eye. We’ll get to see his back-story.
One thing to remember: Nobody is perfect. We all make mistakes. People change. I’ve seen it myself in my life. I’m hoping I get to see it on the show, too.
As for character development: I hope so. We’ll get to see his backstory, but personally, I’d like to see Colin O’Donoghue become a main cast member and let them develop Hook from villan, to antivillan, to hero. That’s my own personal desire, anyway. That they redeem Hook, develop Hook, and use him to the best potential they have. It’d be a shame to let such firtle soil be wasted without anything planted in it.
@lilysmom wrote:
I am probably going to get some major lashing for what I am about to say, but, what can I say, its my opinion.
I really do not like the idea of the CaptainSwan ship. Yes, they seemed to have a bit of chemistry back in Tallahassee, but that was quite a while ago. Since then, they have been working against one another and they definently do not trust each other. As caniving as Hook is, I do not foresee that changing (unless he has some major character developments in the next four episodes).
Hook would flirt with anyone, hes a pirate. This ship just does not seem realistic to me.
Yes, this is your opinion and you are free to show it. However I don’t understand why people go on the Captain Swan thread and say they don’t like CS, or say it’s never going to happen. If you were asking why we ‘ship’ CS, then that would be different. You say you would probably get ‘some major lashing’ over this, so if you don’t want that then don’t say it on the CS thread. I don’t go on other threads and say CS is going to happen, I only say it on this thread so people don’t get offended, or fights don’t start etc. So (I can’t speak for everyone) I hope this thread will be a place where we can share photos and over the top theories 😆 and not get people raining on our parade.
Anyway, the more people who say CS will never happen and tell CS fans they’re just dreaming just convinces me even more that it’s going to happen. To me, it just shows that other ‘ships’ feel threatend.I suggest that you keep on watching. Things are about to turn around for Hook and Emma, and you may begin to ‘ship’ CS with us 😀
@Sarah_TN wrote:
I know about first loves, and I know about true loves, and I know Neal is Henry’s father, but…I’d like to see the show place value in the concept of step-families. There’s lots of room for story telling, and those of us who have experience know that while the road can be rocky, true love to be found there, too.
I too would like to see Emma end up with someone other than Neal. By all means, Emma and Neal should give their relationship another go in order to resolve any left over feelings they have for one another. If it continues or falls apart then it’s all good. However, I don’t want them to get back together just for the sole reason that Neal is Henry’s father.
@Jolly Roger wrote:
They may not kill Neal this season but I believe they will definately kill him off next season. I stand by what I said, if they were planning on keeping Neal long term they would have bumped him up to series regular. Since they didn’t, it just shows that Neal is crucial to the show.
Killing Neal would definitely send Rumple on a trip back to the dark side and potentially set him up as a villain for at least half a season. Rumple’s not really been a villain so far but has been playing both sides against each other. Rumple’s motivation as a villain would be grief instead of revenge (Regina), power (Cora) or greed (Tamara).
As for the ‘fun in vegas’ thing- That was ages ago! That was when the cast, writers, directors were trying to not give any hints that CS was going to happen. I wouldn’t take that too seriously. You’re looking at one little quote from an interview and ignoring the hundreds of other evidence that shows us CS is happening and, as they say, ‘canon’. What you should look at is, the chemistry, Paleyfest (that was huge for CS), as well as more recent interviews.
If CaptainSwan was going to be a serious long term relationship thing you would think the writer would have said “keep watching” or “you’ll have to wait and see” rather than “fun in vegas”. I can’t remember much from Paleyfest (Was CaptainSwan addressed there? What was said there?) and I’ve not really kept up to date with recent interviews (What was said about CaptainSwan?)
As for chemistry, I’ve seen Hook using a lot of innuendo towards Emma and even some innuendo towards Snow. Emma tolerates Hook and even taunts him at times which I suppose could be seen as flirting with him. Never have I looked at them and thought this is a couple that will settle down into a successful long term relationship.
Sarah_TN– Don’t wory it will happen 😀 The directors said that they try to please everyone (including different ‘ships’). However in the end they are going to go with what they planned from the beginning – Emma/Hook (which they had actually planned since season 1) 😀
Has it actually been said that Emma/Hook was planned since season 1?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@lilysmom wrote:
Since then, they have been working against one another and they definently do not trust each other.
The not trusting each other is a major stumbling block in the CaptainSwan relationship. How can they have a successful relationship when they can’t trust the other not to stab them in the back? Also, since Rumple is now Henry’s grandfather, Emma isn’t going to allow Hook to kill Rumple. She is now standing in the way of his lifelong ambition, he’s going to resent her for that. Also Hook has shown he’s not above hurting others to get to Rumple. He shot Belle because she was where Rumple kept his heart, how long before Henry becomes a target for Hook since Henry is what ties Emma to Rumple?
Hook would flirt with anyone, hes a pirate. This ship just does not seem realistic to me.
So far Hook has flirted with Milah, Emma, Snow, Cora, and Regina. Must have a thing for mothers.
The worrisome thing is him flirting with Snow despite knowing that she’s Emma’s mother. That’s just all kinds of wrong. If he genuinely liked Emma, even if he couldn’t express it properly, flirting with her own mother is a big no. Perhaps he enjoys Emma as a challenge because she isn’t going to just fall into his arms.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixSarah_TN- Don’t wory it will happen The directors said that they try to please everyone (including different ‘ships’). However in the end they are going to go with what they planned from the beginning – Emma/Hook (which they had actually planned since season 1)
Where did you hear that?
I would like to know your source for that statement.These are the LOST wriers.
They didn’t do that on LOST and I don’t see them doing that on OUAT.And, as a friend on another site pointed out:
1. They don’t need a love triangle between Hook/Neal/Emma….they already added Tamara.
2. They don’t do what the fans want. – example – Graham, August.
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