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CaptainEala wrote: in 3×11, when they were saying goodbye and didn’t know how long it would be until they saw each other again, was the PERFECT time to exchange “I love you’s, they gave them one of the most platonic goodbyes I’ve ever seen between people who love each other.
VERY good point! I also thought the Swanfire goodbye scene was very platonic and it’s highly likely that it was written that way on purpose.
Yeah, I mean, at the beginning of this season I was a bit apprehensive they might go the love triangle route, and put Emma with Neal before eventually moving on with Killian. But I saw very quickly before Neal came back into the picture that it’s just not in Emma’s character to do that kind of thing. Emma forms very deep emotional attachments, just like you said, so it would make absolutely zero sense for her to get with Neal again and skedaddle back over to Killian (and lol, vice-versa I suppose). It literally makes no sense for her character. And then there’s what the show is actually SHOWING us. Every opportunity they had to give us a romantic Swanfire scene, they didn’t take it.
- They didn’t take the opportunity during their reunion in Ariel (in fact it was the extreme OPPOSITE of romantic)
- They didn’t take the opportunity outside the cave in Ariel
- They didn’t take the opportunity in Dark Hollow (in fact they gave the opportunity to Killian)
- They didn’t take the opportunity in Save Henry, when he and Emma were alone together (no Killian in sight)
- They didn’t take the opportunity in The New Neverland, when Neal specifically asked for lunch, and said that if she didn’t go to lunch he would “stop bugging her” and Emma wilfully DID NOT meet up with him
- They didn’t take the opportunity in Going Home during their goodbye (gave the romantic goodbye to Killian)
- They didn’t take the opportunity in Going Home when it, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, should have been Neal, when he had failed to find her so many times before, but again, they gave that opportunity to Killian, and all through season 1 and 2 we were watching Snowing find each other again and again
So yeah, it’s clearly not something the writers want to do, lol.
I agree. Even some SwanFire scenes we’ve gotten in Neverland, there’s still some CS undertones. Like in Ariel. I think thats a prime example. We have a SwanFire reunion in the Echo Caves, but just before that happens, Hook admits that he’s moved on from his first love Milah and he loves Emma. He’s showing Emma that it is possible to move on from your first love and that speech, helped her realize what’s been holding her back and why she didn’t want to believe that Neal was alive.
Even after they get out from the caves, the whole, ‘I’m not going to shop fighting for you’ <-- still a very douchebag thing to say to Emma, IMO) it was over shadowed by Hook easedropping on that part of the conversation and him, thinking that Emma told Neal about his big dark secret (confirmed the following episode). In Storybrooke, after Emma runs out on her lunch date with Neal, she goes to the docks. Hook's ship is at the docks. She's already thinking about and missing him and she's the one who brings him up to David.
[adrotate group="5"]I agree. Even some SwanFire scenes we’ve gotten in Neverland, there’s still some CS undertones. Like in Ariel. I think thats a prime example. We have a SwanFire reunion in the Echo Caves, but just before that happens, Hook admits that he’s moved on from his first love Milah and he loves Emma. He’s showing Emma that it is possible to move on from your first love and that speech, helped her realize what’s been holding her back and why she didn’t want to believe that Neal was alive. Even after they get out from the caves, the whole, ‘I’m not going to stop fighting for you’ <– still a very douchebag thing to say to Emma, IMO) it was over shadowed by Hook easedropping on that part of the conversation and him, thinking that Emma told Neal about his big dark secret (confirmed the following episode). In Storybrooke, after Emma runs out on her lunch date with Neal, she goes to the docks. Hook’s ship is at the docks. She’s already thinking about and missing him and she’s the one who brings him up to David. [/quote] The whole SwanFire thing in Ariel was set up by a big moment for Captain Swan, it started with Killian being strong enough and honest enough to make sure they saved Nealfire in the first place. The first thing he did was immediately tell her parents that he might be alive. Parents who to that point would still probably be more in favor of Neal and Emma reuniting than Hook having a chance with her. Then it goes to what u said in the caves, Hook having to confess his feelings for Emma in order to save Nealfire. Finally both times SwanFire have a moment together very deliberately we're shown Hook's reactions. Totally agree about that last part, but I'll add a couple more things she brought up Hook there specifically because she can see herself being with him. No doubt having Nealfire back around her was conflicting and slowed down how she might have otherwise proceeded with Hook but I don't think Hook being around slowed the progression of Emma coming closer to reuniting with Bae. In other words removing Nealfire from the picture definitely speeds things up for Emma and Hook being together, while Hook not being around I think would still leave Emma in pretty much the same place she is now because what stops Emma from going back to Neal more than anything else is herself her own hurt feelings from what happened between them more so than even the "devilishly handsome pirate." The other thing I think Emma was doing there was feeling David out on how he feels about her choosing Hook and I think his reaction was one that basically said "Hook's not such a bad guy" definitely far from the "she's never gonna like you" that he told Hook before.
I agree. Even some SwanFire scenes we’ve gotten in Neverland, there’s still some CS undertones. Like in Ariel. I think thats a prime example. We have a SwanFire reunion in the Echo Caves, but just before that happens, Hook admits that he’s moved on from his first love Milah and he loves Emma. He’s showing Emma that it is possible to move on from your first love and that speech, helped her realize what’s been holding her back and why she didn’t want to believe that Neal was alive. Even after they get out from the caves, the whole, ‘I’m not going to shop fighting for you’ <– still a very douchebag thing to say to Emma, IMO) it was over shadowed by Hook easedropping on that part of the conversation and him, thinking that Emma told Neal about his big dark secret (confirmed the following episode). In Storybrooke, after Emma runs out on her lunch date with Neal, she goes to the docks. Hook’s ship is at the docks. She’s already thinking about and missing him and she’s the one who brings him up to David.[/quote] ^^^^^^^ Yup. EDIT: @Stelio, I agree with what you're saying as well 🙂
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
Much like Snow and Charming, when faced with life without True Love in it, they reverted to their worst selves once again. Emma no longer believed in herself or that she wouldn’t fail without Killian’s constant support, and without Emma, Killian slid back into his Hook persona, drowning his sorrows in a bottle of rum and seeking comfort with Tinkerbell.
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Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
Remember this scene? Of course you do 😉
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That’s quite the vessel you Captain there, Swan.
Thanks for the shout-out Adam and Eddie!!! Lol
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
I will be all that you want, and get myself together, ‘cause you keep me from falling apart. {♥}
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Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
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