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In OUAT (and OUATIW) we have consistently been shown: that TL does not move on it always finds each other when it is separated, it ruins the couples lives that both partners need to believe in their love SF literally fits NONE of these criteria. I mean, you could ignore it not meeting one or two, but ALL FOUR? NOPE.
Does anyone care to elaborate on these points?
PoM has made a post about this in the SF thread saying that SF meets all four criteria. LOL no.
1) It is canon that Neal moved on. Adam has said so. SFers are constantly going on about how “Adam said that Neal didn’t call the cops on Emma!!! Why can’t you leave Neal alone!!!!”
You can’t just take what Adam says as gospel on one thing and not on another. That’s not how is works.
Plus it was shown in the show as well. Neal believed in his and Tamara’s love, that is UNQUESTIONABLE. He believed in Tamara up until the very last minute.
So I was right, it wasn’t Tamara.
You cannot just discount this kind of thing lol.
And another thing – the writers made Tamara Neal’s fiancé for a reason – it was to show he had moved on. If that wasn’t the case, Tamara would have just been Neal’s girlfriend. But Neal made a very important commitment – a commitment to spend the rest of his life with Tamara. And if, as SFers are so prone to saying, Neal didn’t actually love Tamara (lol again contradicts canon), then is makes him a huge *butt*hole to propose to spend the rest of his life with a woman if he didn’t love her. Says a lot about what Neal’s love is worth if that’s the case *snorts*
2) Neal never found Emma – not once. Not in Portland, not in NY, not in NL. All of those times was Emma mostly inadvertently finding him – in Portland and NY it wasn’t even her intention to find him. And the ONE TIME she was purposefully looking for him? For TWO YEARS in Tallahassee? She didn’t. Ahem. Yeah.
3) It ruined Emma’s life for a long time – but it’s didn’t ruin Neal’s. Neal moved on with his life, got a job or something (who knows?), didn’t have to pay for his crimes, met a fiancé, got engaged. He literally had no intention to go back to SB with Emma – he was happy with his life. And the only reason it ruined Emma’s life was because Neal didn’t break it off properly – he gave her no closure.
4) Emma doesn’t believe in their love. In fact she wished he was dead so that she could more easily put the pain he caused her behind her. So, in other words, her love for him is not enough.
Neal doesn’t believe in their love. Again: “your belief in love wasn’t strong enough to overcome your fear of rejection.”
It literally does not get plainer than that.
Honestly I couldn’t give a monkeys what PoM is saying. This is coming from someone who was trying to inspire hatred of a fictional character actions, trying to make them out to be sexual assault, when only a few EPISODES ago, they were unsure of which to ship, and disparaging both Neal and Hook in equal measure.
ANYWAY
I’m infinity% confident that our ship is going to come out on top 😉
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CaptainEala is welcome to come to the SwanFire thread and defend her points if she so chooses.
And just for the record, Hookian, CSers have gone to the SwanFire thread before and taken my opinion and brought it back here and called it things such as “invalid”. I have not called CaptainEala’s opinion “invalid”, I have merely disagreed with it.
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Keeper of FelixEr I’m sorry PoM but I believe RG told us to stay out of other people’s threads? And honestly I can’t talk civilly to you… I can’t converse with anyone with as much hatred in their heart as you have.
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Can we breathe again? Can we just stay out of each other’s thread, instead of fighting with each other? Like, this is why the CSF died and vanished into the forum oblivion because it only stirred up evil things. Or at least keep the hate out of this thread?
CaptainEala is welcome to come to the SwanFire thread and defend her points if she so chooses. And just for the record, Hookian, CSers have gone to the SwanFire thread before and taken my opinion and brought it back here and called it things such as “invalid”. I have not called CaptainEala’s opinion “invalid”, I have merely disagreed with it.
Why should she have to come to your thread to defend her post? Why can’t her post just be posted here(which it is) and be left alone, without you having to come in here and scrutinize her with it?
Rumple’s Girl even said that it’s not a good thing to come into one or the others thread to copy posts then bring them back to your respective thread and then disprove them.
Let them have their opinion, she shouldn’t have to defend her post for anything. She posted her post for CS shippers, HER post that YOU copied and brought to the SF thread and deconstructed it.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Can we breathe again? Can we just stay out of each other’s thread, instead of fighting with each other? Like, this is why the CSF died and vanished into the forum oblivion because it only stirred up evil things. Or at least keep the hate out of this thread?
I think people are entitled to read the others threads, I mean, how can they be stopped? @Aurora brought this to my attention because someone had apparently literally QUOTED ME in the SF thread. I don’t blame @Aurora at all, she was only offering me a chance to defend my points. She wasn’t hating on SF or anything. It’s PoM who is invading the thread when s/he isn’t supposed to…
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PriceofMagic wrote: CaptainEala is welcome to come to the SwanFire thread and defend her points if she so chooses. And just for the record, Hookian, CSers have gone to the SwanFire thread before and taken my opinion and brought it back here and called it things such as “invalid”. I have not called CaptainEala’s opinion “invalid”, I have merely disagreed with it.
Why should she have to come to your thread to defend her post? Why can’t her post just be posted here(which it is) and be left alone, without you having to come in here and scrutinize her with it? Rumple’s Girl even said that it’s not a good thing to come into one or the others thread to copy posts then bring them back to your respective thread and then disprove them. Let them have their opinion, she shouldn’t have to defend her post for anything. She posted her post for CS shippers, HER post that YOU copied and brought to the SF thread and deconstructed it. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
EXACTLY @Hookian, thank you 🙂
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Er I’m sorry PoM but I believe RG told us to stay out of other people’s threads? And honestly I can’t talk civilly to you… I can’t converse with anyone with as much hatred in their heart as you have.
Aurora you heard CaptainEala, you have to stay out of the SwanFire thread, even though you have the right to go wherever you choose.
You didn’t want to take up my invitation then Eala? That’s a pity. Nevermind.
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Keeper of FelixCaptainEala is welcome to come to the SwanFire thread and defend her points if she so chooses. And just for the record, Hookian, CSers have gone to the SwanFire thread before and taken my opinion and brought it back here and called it things such as “invalid”. I have not called CaptainEala’s opinion “invalid”, I have merely disagreed with it.
Why should she have to come to your thread to defend her post? Why can’t her post just be posted here(which it is) and be left alone, without you having to come in here and scrutinize her with it?
Rumple’s Girl even said that it’s not a good thing to come into one or the others thread to copy posts then bring them back to your respective thread and then disprove them.
Let them have their opinion, she shouldn’t have to defend her post for anything. She posted her post for CS shippers, HER post that YOU copied and brought to the SF thread and deconstructed it.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Really? I seem to remember I posted something in the SwanFire thread for the SwanFire shippers and yet it somehow magically found its way over here and was called “invalid” by CaptainEala.
Hypocrisy is not a nice trait.
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Keeper of FelixCaptainEala wrote: Er I’m sorry PoM but I believe RG told us to stay out of other people’s threads? And honestly I can’t talk civilly to you… I can’t converse with anyone with as much hatred in their heart as you have.
Aurora you heard CaptainEala, you have to stay out of the SwanFire thread, even though you have the right to go wherever you choose. You didn’t want to take up my invitation then Eala? That’s a pity. Nevermind.
PoM stop taking things wrong deliberately. No-one can stop us reading each others posts, but you VERY RUDELY quoted me in the SF thread.
You are rude PoM, now please don’t post in our thread like @RumplesGirl told you.
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