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April 20, 2013 at 2:00 am #187362
craxyfox
ParticipantI’ll have to disagree with you
There is no comparison between Hook leaving Emma locked up, and Neal sending Emma to jailEmma and Hook owed each other nothing at that point, she betrayed him and he was genuinely trying to help her. He was meant to be the bad guy in this scenario, and yet when he first sees her again in Storybrooke, his first words were hey beautiful 😆
Neal and Emma on the other hand, were tied by love, and she trusted him, he said he loved her and he betrayed her and sent her to prison, which in the real world, is pretty bad and she spent a year in there, whilst only an hour or two in rumple’s cell 😆
there really is no comparison to be made since they are completely different contexts 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]April 20, 2013 at 2:05 am #187364Killian Jones
Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
Yes, it is Hook slept with her what I should have said Henry’s grandmother, Bae’s mother that is really sick to me to have Emma tied up with this guy. He beats up women like Belle, steals, left her in prision, has an affair with her future father-in-law wife, then runs away with her and leaves Bae without a mother. Boy this would be the guy you want to bring home to your parents don’t you think?
See I don’t get why anyone would want to come on a thread for CaptainSwan fans just to talk it down. Hook’s history with Milah doesn’t bother us. As of now Swanfire may or may not happen so Rumple being her future father in law is a reach. As far as Hook’s past in discretions then I guess people shouldn’t ship Rumbelle either because Rumple’s past indiscretions are far worse than what Hook has done.
April 20, 2013 at 2:07 am #187365Killian Jones
Participant@craxyfox wrote:
I’ll have to disagree with you
There is no comparison between Hook leaving Emma locked up, and Neal sending Emma to jailEmma and Hook owed each other nothing at that point, she betrayed him and he was genuinely trying to help her. He was meant to be the bad guy in this scenario, and yet when he first sees her again in Storybrooke, his first words were hey beautiful 😆
Neal and Emma on the other hand, were tied by love, and she trusted him, he said he loved her and he betrayed her and sent her to prison, which in the real world, is pretty bad and she spent a year in there, whilst only an hour or two in rumple’s cell 😆
there really is no comparison to be made since they are completely different contexts 🙂
Also I’m just gonna throw the fact that he probably threw that sword fight against her so she could get to Storybrooke
April 20, 2013 at 2:11 am #187368craxyfox
Participant@steliokontos1 wrote:
See I don’t get why anyone would want to come on a thread for CaptainSwan fans just to talk it down. Hook’s history with Milah doesn’t bother us. As of now Swanfire may or may not happen so Rumple being her future father in law is a reach. As far as Hook’s past in discretions then I guess people shouldn’t ship Rumbelle either because Rumple’s past indiscretions are far worse than what Hook has done.
This
I don’t think there is any more to this, carry on discussing our wonderful ship shipmates 😆yep he definitely threw that fight, come on, he’s like 300 years old, I doubt a captain would let his sword skills go rusty 😆
April 20, 2013 at 2:12 am #187370sarah_tn
Participant@steliokontos1 wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
Yes, it is Hook slept with her what I should have said Henry’s grandmother, Bae’s mother that is really sick to me to have Emma tied up with this guy. He beats up women like Belle, steals, left her in prision, has an affair with her future father-in-law wife, then runs away with her and leaves Bae without a mother. Boy this would be the guy you want to bring home to your parents don’t you think?
See I don’t get why anyone would want to come on a thread for CaptainSwan fans just to talk it down. Hook’s history with Milah doesn’t bother us. As of now Swanfire may or may not happen so Rumple being her future father in law is a reach. As far as Hook’s past in discretions then I guess people shouldn’t ship Rumbelle either because Rumple’s past indiscretions are far worse than what Hook has done.
Agreed!
April 20, 2013 at 2:17 am #187372surayya
Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
I hope not, Hook slept with her Grandmother for petes sakes.
1) steliokontos1 is correct.
2) (As it’s worth repeating) Milah isn’t even blood related to Emma, so who gives a toss what happened 300+yrs ago!
4) Emma has already shared a passionate kiss with her own step-granny’s love-toy & no-one goes around trashing Graham &/or Emma for it 🙄
5) Incest = Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom- Your son’s, father’s, father’s, ex wife’s lover from 300 yrs ago, does not add up to incest or a morally wrong couple. 🙄
6) If stuff like that is an issue for couples getting together on Once- no one would have a chance of finding happiness, because they all have twisted/murderous connections everywhere- this show’s backstory is over 300yrs long- plenty of other ‘coupled’ characters could be related through marriage & law 1way or the other.
7) This is the most important point! This is The CaptainSwan thread, if you don’t ship them, you don’t need to comment. Otherwise comments like the one quoted, can only be assumed to be in order to cause arguments/ negativity & therefore are trolling, it’s really that simple. There are plenty of other ship threads where you can negativity comment on CaptainSwan if you so desire- this is not that place.
April 20, 2013 at 2:23 am #187376AllThatGlitters
ParticipantI think in S3 they are going to be showing a different side to Hook. Right now, he is deemed a “villain” so some people don’t like him. Most people didn’t like Rumpel until his backstory was shown. People might change their tune about Hook.
I don’t like when people want to say things on this thread that they know will rile up people who ship CaptainSwan. Can we just refrain from doing that to any ship threads? Everyone is entitled to opinions, I get that. If you say your opinion in a respectful way, I think it would be more welcomed.
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April 20, 2013 at 2:27 am #187378surayya
Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
@craxyfox wrote:
noone’s perfect 😉
Hook actually never put Emma in jail, if I recall correctly, Neal was the one that did that 😆
Hey, left her in Rumbles cell in FL with Snow, Aurora and Mulan.
He wasn’t the one to actually put her there tho- that was cora & Cora’s plan. The only reason Hook went with it, is Emma betrayed/hurt him by leaving him up the beanstalk & in FTL, so it wasn’t that simple + if you watch those scenes, he looks at the floor an awful lot & is not gloating or looking happy to be having to team back up with Cora nor with what she was doing- A&E have already said he was being honest when her told her he wouldn’t have done that to her.
Hook also owned up to his role in the whole thing- immediately & said why.
Neal was supposed to LOVE Emma, yet he hasn’t bothered to give Emma any explanations, he hasn’t bothered apologized for having her “wrongly” imprisoned for HIS crime, nor has he apologized for abandoning her afterwards either or hurting her. I know who I’d be more inclined to forgive of the 2 & it isn’t Neal.
Should have read pg 51 1st- I agree with & have repeated most of what Crazyfox has already pointed out! 😆
April 20, 2013 at 2:29 am #187380sarah_tn
Participant@AllThatGlitters wrote:
I think in S3 they are going to be showing a different side to Hook. Right now, he is deemed a “villain” so some people don’t like him. Most people didn’t like Rumpel until his backstory was shown. People might change their tune about Hook…….
I hope you’re right about that. It’s definitely something I’d be looking forward to. That’d be really cool. 😎
April 20, 2013 at 2:48 am #187388surayya
Participant@AllThatGlitters wrote:
I think in S3 they are going to be showing a different side to Hook. Right now, he is deemed a “villain” so some people don’t like him. Most people didn’t like Rumpel until his backstory was shown. People might change their tune about Hook.
I don’t like when people want to say things on this thread that they know will rile up people who ship CaptainSwan. Can we just refrain from doing that to any ship threads? Everyone is entitled to opinions, I get that. If you say your opinion in a respectful way, I think it would be more welcomed.
I too hope so. I really would like to see how Killian became a pirate & how he came to have such a strong moral code (for a pirate)…. I kind of wonder what happened to have him become this anti-hero type pirate, rather than a pirate like hero. The guy has all the qualities of a hero personality- bravery (he isn’t afraid to for fight or die for what he wants & believes in), honesty (he hasn’t lied so far), morals (he wont kill for the sake of simply killing, it always has a purpose & doesn’t take pleasure from others pain- Rumple aside) etc I sometimes wonder if Charming himself would be very different from Killian if he turned dark 😉
I also think it’s what attracts Emma to him in some ways- he is very hero like, the capacity for ‘good guy’ is there, but also has these dark shades, so he’s not too perfect- if that makes sense 😕 😉I also think a lot of Hook hate comes from the fact it is Rumple he’s out to get- they love Rumple, Belle & Bae, so anyone who challenges those characters is ‘bad’ for them.
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