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Stupid chat…. but it got me thinking…… How many of us really would watch a NL spin off IF they did one?
I’m gonna be honest- I detested PP as a kid & still not a fan now- I wouldn’t watch a NL spin off if I’m really honest. Pirates & PP are simply not my thing, I also wouldnt watch it based off of the fact I dont want to watch a show, in which the one character I already love to death, is dialed right back to the worst version of himself & can never, during the run of said spin off, ever be developed or grow past that point (characters that cant grow & develop get old fast, which usually = a quick death for a TV show… unless they have some wicked CGI or something to hold the audiences attention).
The whole ‘known’ cast members = automatic viewers, doesnt hold water either IMO- I dont watch new shows just cause someone I loved from another show is in it. I only watch if I actually like the idea of the show & only continue to watch if I enjoy the story from there (ie. I HATE super natural, so I watched only the Amanda Tapping scenes online & then only from 2-3eps of the total number of eps she was actually in , but she didnt change me watching the show itself, I didnt even tune in or record it, so it never counted towards ratings either- I still gave SN a mega miss- one of my fav actresses or not). I know there are many people who will give the show ago based on known actors/actresses-but it doesnt mean they will keep tuning in – Which brings me to my next point~
A couple of good actors whom had awesome roles & writing in another show, that has a somehow ‘magical formula,’ which works to draw you in & keep you there, doesn’t necessarily transfer across to another show-esp where the main characters are all at their worst, there is no romance/romantic tension (even between Tink & Hook, we already know Hook never loved Tink- due to his secret & it’s unlikely Tink loved Hook- she seems to be able to read people fairly well, nor Wendy & PP- I’m calling creepy on that one right now lol :p & Felix doesnt seem the loving type, being PP’s #1 groupie/victim & all) & doing things out of hate & bitterness (Tink included) can only be shown. These characters essentially cant ever be developed past where we meet them in Once- so Hook never learns to hope for a chance at love, he’s simply stuck as a pirate bent on revenge, which we’ll never see him get, an evil PP bent on murdering his grandson-Henry & destroying Rumple, again which we’ll never see happen, Tink, wingless & bitter- we never will get a pay off for her either, lost boys whom may want to return home, but we wont ever get a pay off for them either- that makes for a lame & depressing show IMO- but great if you wanna just sit down & hate on evil or pathetic characters, whom cant ever develop past their worst selves IMO- I just dont see the draw in it & that is speaking as a fan of both the main guys who would lead it :/
I really think a larger part of why WL hasnt worked (aside from the botch job they did with airing it), is it just doesnt have the magic OUaT has & I mean through character interactions & chemistry (pretty much all the characters on Once have major chemistry on screen, it makes their relationships, reactions & feelings sooooo believable, despite the often ridiculous situations 😉 )- they tried, but it just doesn’t have it, unless they could find that Once magic, no spin off will work IMO…
I mean the whole point of many of those whom are saying it’d be a good thing to have a NL spin off, can simply be reversed to a ‘Neal in NY spin off would be awesome’, as we’d get heaps of answers- we’d find out what he did before he met Emma, after he left her in prison, a bit of what they did while together, what August did growing up, what he did after the whole Emma/Neal/Prison thing & we could have a really cool story line with young Bae- what he did when he returned from NL, how he adjusted to modern day living (none of which we really get with SB residents, as modern living is normal what with them having 28yrs worth of modern day memories) etc- Hook, PP, Emma & Rumple could even do crossovers, which would draw in extra viewers!’… It’s a totally redundant argument IMO- I mean, they could do a Jack & the Beanstalk spin off too- we have Tiny, Charming, Rumple & King George or a 7 Dwarfs spin off … where does it stop???
I think many (other than CS) shippers, tend to forget that we LOVE CS, Emma & Hook, Because of this magical combination they seem to have hit on with OUaT as a show. Most dont just watch the show cause a hot guy’s wearing way to much leather & guyliner 😉 I know I watch for the journey of a tortured soul (who so happens to be Hook), meeting & falling for a broken soul (who happens to be the product of TL & Snowing’s daughter- Emma) & how these 2 come together & start to open their hearts to trust, hope & faith in love again, healing each other as it happens- that is magical to me. I love what they do for each other & I love how 2 people so broken in love & trust, can find it in themselves to put aside those old hurts & try again with another person- that’s why I tune in week after week.
Sorry for the ranty post- I’m just sick of the ‘they should do a NL spin off’ cop out talk. think it’s time I go & get engrossed in a good nature documentary (watched an awesome one on finding the dwarf manatee last night lol)- those are much safer lol 😉
[adrotate group="5"]The only reason I can see it working if it’s used as a hiatus buster during the break like as a mini series thing. They can do a short run of episodes explaining Hook’s arrival and escape from Neverland, they can do Bar’s time in Neverland and complete that over a short run of episodes. Just as a one shot throw if they need another hiatus buster they can do another one shot with other characters like for instance MAP, they can show the rescue of Prince Phillip, Mulan’s story, the original Sleeping Beauty story and complete that for a short hiatus run in the winter. There’s a lot of side stories they can bust out into hiatus breakers. You got to admit it would be nice to have one of those during this winter hiatus. From those two we could have Once Upon a Time In Neverland, and Once Upon A Dream.
I know now hindsight is 20/20 but if I could go back and do things for them a different way I would have done this long break last season during season 2. Had OUATIW air then for winter, for this season done OUATIN as a hiatus buffer this year and still had Once Upon A Dream for season 4. I think that would have worked.
The only reason I can see it working if it’s used as a hiatus buster during the break like as a mini series thing. They can do a short run of episodes explaining Hook’s arrival and escape from Neverland, they can do Bar’s time in Neverland and complete that over a short run of episodes. Just as a one shot throw if they need another hiatus buster they can do another one shot with other characters like for instance MAP, they can show the rescue of Prince Phillip, Mulan’s story, the original Sleeping Beauty story and complete that for a short hiatus run in the winter. There’s a lot of side stories they can bust out into hiatus breakers. You got to admit it would be nice to have one of those during this winter hiatus. From those two we could have Once Upon a Time In Neverland, and Once Upon A Dream.
That could work, but I’m talking actual ‘spin off’ attempts that a select group of fans wont drop as a way to make Hook’s death a good/ok thing, not a bunch of 1 off mini series.
I’m only interested in the context of NL backstory with regards to the characters story they are telling now- honestly I doubt they’ll ever expand on it, much like we’ll never have Charming’s time learning to be a prince, Snow’s time learning to be a bandit, Emma’s traumatic childhood & teen age years- or even post Neal/pre bailbonds stage explained- I mean we still dont know the importance of the whistle the huntsmen gave Snow, Emma’s tattoo, who wrote the book & why- whatever happened to those things… there are a heap of back stories we will never know about & honestly I doubt they’ll have the time or the money to do them as break busters (much as some fans would like them)- I’m guessing they’ll just stick with what they know brings in the cash fro a long while after WL 😉
Honestly- I cant really say if I personally, would watch many if any short ‘adventures of’ spin offs, even if only 6eps long- I watch the show for the interactions of my favs- take them out of the mix & there are far, far to many plot holes & loose strings for me to buy into lol. I dont know if the show would work if they had different actors for the big 6 (or 8 depending on how you want to look at them lol).
I mean I’ve done really well during this break- I’ve only had one moment of ‘withdrawal’ from the show- there are other good shows on TV, so it’s not like Once is the only thing on these days, there are other new & established shows on TV, which can be watched, rather than watching a sub-par (IMO) spin off, but that’s just me- I’d rather they focus on Once & have it be the best show it can be, than split their focus.
They aren’t going to do one (i would probably watch but it wouldn’t be the same as ONCE) because A&E have said they’re done with NL. I wish it weren’t so in some ways, because there are some open-ended things which frustrate me, but at the same time, i was so tired of that really dark jungle that when we left NL i was delighted 🙂
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He came back – 2×22, 3×11
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I’m sure it’s not at all significant that Killian has come back for Emma twice now. When (CONFIRMED BY JMO MIND YOU) nobody else ever has.
Nope. Meaningless.
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