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@Hookian wrote:
Hook wants to settle down probably even more than Emma, he just wants to have something in life to keep him going. He doesn’t want adventure, he really now looks like he doesn’t want his revenge, all he wants is something to care and fight for.
Someone to love, that’s what Hook wants and he’s willing to give up everything including his revenge.
Yup, I completely agree.
@Sarah_TN wrote:
As for whether Hook can settle down, there’s a lot a woman can do to influence a man over time. I like that line from “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”. “The man is the head, but the woman is the neck” (and what can a head do without a neck?).
Love the “My Big Fat Greek Wedding” reference and totally applies.
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@Hookian wrote:
Hook wants to settle down probably even more than Emma, he just wants to have something in life to keep him going. He doesn’t want adventure, he really now looks like he doesn’t want his revenge, all he wants is something to care and fight for.
Someone to love, that’s what Hook wants and he’s willing to give up everything including his revenge.
Yup, I completely agree.
@Sarah_TN wrote:
As for whether Hook can settle down, there’s a lot a woman can do to influence a man over time. I like that line from “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”. “The man is the head, but the woman is the neck” (and what can a head do without a neck?).
Love the “My Big Fat Greek Wedding” reference and totally applies.
Thanks. I love that movie! 😀
@KFChimera wrote:
I don’t want Hook to lose his spirit, just his revenge. We’ll have to learn more about him, but at this point, I think it is a pretty big leap to say “he just wants to settle down.“I don’t think he has THOUGHT about what might be next, or that there would be a “next”. That was what I took from his comments to Regina.
I agree with Sarah that Emma might like a little adventure, and that couples in love often change a little to be with each other. Though, I really don’t see a “big happy family” around a TV kind of thing.
Hookian, as with your other post where you talk about a scene jump, I think you’re downplaying GOAT’s role in the show. That scene jump seemed to me to connect Emma’s worry about the danger to SB with the two who are the danger. Similarly, Hook didn’t kill Mallificient –they did. I do agree that Hook is on a journey, but he is still playing the anti-hero type role. He anticipated Regina would betray him, and he actually betrayed her in anticipation, or else GOAT wouldn’t have been there. Perhaps if she hadn’t betrayed him, he would have helped her with GOAT–he’s a pirate. We know he’s the type to shift sides when the odds change.
Now we’ll have to wait to see him do something that does not just further his revenge or save himself or undo a harm he caused or helped to cause in the first place. We need to SEE his heroic moment. Even better if Emma sees it–like if he warns the town, even though it means Rumpel gets away from him. We need to see him pick the good side and stick to it, even though it might cost him the one thing that’s been motivating him for years. That to me is the most likely heroic moment for him….cause I don’t think his revenge thing is going to work out. Rumpel’s too important :).
That’s the kind of change I think that would set up CS pretty well.
Agree 100% with all but the pink sentence of your post.
What I got from that scene (taking previous events into consideration) is I think Hook has indeed thought about ‘his afterwards’…at least a little.
He spent- what a week?- tied up with only his ‘joy’ of finally having got his revenge to keep him company….I’m fairly certain he had plenty of time to think on other aspects of life, now he had achieved his goal. ie. His joy may have started to feel rather hollow, when it didn’t help him out of the spot he was in, nor did he have friends or family looking for or missing him…he didn’t even have someone he would miss at that point..well maybe Emma- she’s only one he has really sparked with. Maybe he actually got just a little taste of what a life lived only for the sake of seeking vengeance actually means & what it will cost him…. I know I’d have at least gone though ‘what if’s’ myself)- why else would he bother having that particular conversation with Regina regarding revenge, if he hadn’t at least considered the same things for himself… he didn’t need to bring it up at all & at that point, he really was going to help Regina & not GOAT.I have been thinking that I don’t want to see Hook 100% redeemed by end of S2 though, because then I doubt we’ll much of him in S3 at all- if we have 5 seasons in total, I hope we see him try to be ‘good’ through S3- with plenty of sparky CS moments, & maybe become a ‘good’ pirate during S4- & we get plenty of serious CS moments & in S5 when the final battle happens (however or in whatever form that takes place), Hook is there on the ‘good guys’ & Emma’s side 😉
I’m with you 100% on the green paragraph, it’s exactly the kind of thing that will set CS up
Hm yes, he did have some time tied up, thinking he’d done in Rumpel. He came off a bit unhinged to me when he was talking to Tamara, as if yes, he’d thought but not really through through it if that makes sense? He didn’t have a new plan in place, like I’m going to go find that Swan girl and settle down and be happy. He just didn’t know what to do with himself, maybe he was waiting to be killed by his captor or see what other twists of fate come his way. He’s lived long enough I think to realize life had a funny way of throwing him for a loop so he expects it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@Surayya wrote:
I have been thinking that I don’t want to see Hook 100% redeemed by end of S2 though, because then I doubt we’ll much of him in S3 at all- if we have 5 seasons in total, I hope we see him try to be ‘good’ through S3- with plenty of sparky CS moments, & maybe become a ‘good’ pirate during S4- & we get plenty of serious CS moments & in S5 when the final battle happens (however or in whatever form that takes place), Hook is there on the ‘good guys’ & Emma’s side 😉
Yes. I want that too.
Long as Hook’s there through season 3 (and hopefully season 4), I’ll be happy whether they redeem him, or not.
True though, they shouldn’t redeem him 100%. He’s got to have some baggage for the complexity of his character. Come on, you can’t have spaghetti without some seasoning! It’d just be noodles & tomato sauce! 😆
Same deal with Hook. Hook gives Once Upon A Time that extra, special “spice”, and that “spice” comes from his past, and from the imperfections he has which make him what he is; perfectly interesting and captivating! 😀
Please excuse the food analogies, I know I use those often, but I think they make my point. 😉
This brightened my day today. A lovely fan recorded the CS theme (you know, the one we heard in Tallahassee when Hook and Emma bonded after climbing the beanstalk), cleaned up the audio and pretty much muted Hook and Emma’s voice, so you can actually the theme played in the background.
It is awesome 😀 😀
Lovely theme and of course Hook is here to stay. 🙂
He was supposed to be there from the very beginning of the show so to me that definitely tells me that he’s here to stay and be Emma’s true love. 😉
@KFChimera wrote:
Hm yes, he did have some time tied up, thinking he’d done in Rumpel. He came off a bit unhinged to me when he was talking to Tamara, as if yes, he’d thought but not really through through it if that makes sense? He didn’t have a new plan in place, like I’m going to go find that Swan girl and settle down and be happy. He just didn’t know what to do with himself, maybe he was waiting to be killed by his captor or see what other twists of fate come his way. He’s lived long enough I think to realize life had a funny way of throwing him for a loop so he expects it.
Yeah, I agree he hadn’t got so far as ‘now it’s done, I’m off to live happy ever after’, as I said I think he thought on it a little- hence ‘that particular’ conversation with Regina.
He doesn’t seem totally ‘into’ his revenge on Rumple at this time- I’m not saying he doesn’t want it still…because the fact he’s with GOAT atm, means he does still want that revenge enough to not have walked away from their offer. I’m just saying, I think we are meant to be reading it as ‘he actually has other desires & considerations, aside from revenge, that he is now starting to consider’, rather than JUST his single minded, one track revenge path…& I think that is were Emma will come into play- he’ll start to have a reason to do the right thing, of his own free will 😉
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