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May 2, 2013 at 8:46 pm #190726
jasminegirl84
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
you know, I re-read an old interveiw Colindid for a French magazine (the one where he admitted that Hook is attracted to Emma). Further below, there’s this question:
With his pedigree (I’m supposing they mean his backstory), why are fans so seduced by the character?
Because people love anti-heroes, characters à la Han Solo capable of doing the good thing at the last moment.
and I have a feeling, if Hook is anything like Han in the first movie, he'll run first and then quickly change his mind, come back and help our heroes at the last minute. Plus, I think it's funny after watching The Evil Queen, that people are saying Hook is the anti-hero and Colin even said that himself months ago.
YES!!!! I concur! That’s a great interview and very telling of what might happen in the near future.
E & A also put a spin on this: He's either a villain stuck in a hero's body or a hero stuck in a villain's body.
I think it’s the latter. I can’t wait to see the surprises Hook will bring – he always does things that not only other people are surprised by, but he himself might be surprised by. Like, saving Aurora’s heart amidst the CS sword fight. These little moments show us a glimpse of good he has in him.I don’t think he realizes that inside the shell of Hook is still that Killian that he once was, and maybe even a better version of it that he has not even seen yet. Perhaps Emma will tap into that? I am really wishing that happens. A girl can dream…*sighs*
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 3, 2013 at 1:28 am #190762obisgirl
ParticipantDoes anyone have a Captain Swan wish list for the finale?
Some of mine include:
Killian and Emma kiss, then they kiss again and again and again.
Lots of Captain Swan eye!sex in-between kissing each otherThe other ones are pretty much rumbelle 😆
okay, one is Emma refers to David and Mary Margaret as mom and dad. 😥 😥
and Henry calls Rumpel “grandpa or grandpa rumps” — I like grandpa rumps better. 😆 😆May 3, 2013 at 1:35 am #190763surayya
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
Hi CaptainSwanners,
I am new to this board so forgive me if I have mentioned themes and opinions already discussed in this thread. I just wanted to proclaim my obsession for this ship and I want it to sail in future seasons!
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
What I want to see is a slow and gradual building up of their friendship and sexual tension. I agree with others who have said that he would have to do quite a grand gesture of selflessness to be even a blip on Emma’s radar.
This would be excellent. As much as I love reading angsty Captain Swan in fanfiction, seeing a trust built through friendship first and then transition into something romantic, would be satisfying for me to watch too.
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:But, there still needs to be a convo between them exploring all the reasons Neal left her and what she went through. She knows the gist from Manhattan, but I still feel there is an exchange that is missing.
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It was touched on briefly in Manhattan, but you’re right, it wasn’t fully explored. I mean, Emma had other things to worry about at the time. Maybe we’ll get something in the finale.
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
So, cutting my ramblings short, I think Hook will be in Emma’s life in some form in season 3. Do I think he will be her true love? That is up to debate. Do I want them to be? HELL YES.
They are kindred spirits and their lives have many glaring parallels.
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I absolutely think he is her True Love. I have a tumblr account and everytime, I see parallels with this pairing, I just go 😮 😯 😮
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
I’d certainly like to see Killian Jones, the man.
Me too 😀 😆
My responses are color coded, so this doesn’t get to choppy 🙂
Welcome aboard Jasminegirl84 🙂
Totally agree, this is my hope too
Again, couldn’t agree more & I think it is something we need to see, where Emma isn’t surprised, on the spot & freaking out over Henry knowing she lied, the man who hurt her most in life coming back into her life, as well as keeping Henry from Neil. We need to see a calm, totally honest exchange there & Emma needs to admit she will always love/have feelings for Neil in some form- because she will, he gave her Henry & he was her 1st love etc (I think people forget that just because you still love someone, doesn’t mean you have or want to be romantically involved with them). There’s many kinds of love 😉
They should be each others True Love, given the staggering numbers of parallels between Snowing & CS, Tangled & CS (right down to the flower tattoo on Emma’s wrist 😉 ….isn’t her tattoo meant to be significant? I though A&E mentioned it during S1 somewhere, when someone asked about it…wish I could find the interview 😕 ) & Hook/Killian & Emma themselves
Me three 😆
May 3, 2013 at 1:47 am #190764sarah_tn
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Does anyone have a Captain Swan wish list for the finale?
Some of mine include:
Killian and Emma kiss, then they kiss again and again and again.
Lots of Captain Swan eye!sex in-between kissing each otherThe other ones are pretty much rumbelle 😆
okay, one is Emma refers to David and Mary Margaret as mom and dad. 😥 😥
and Henry calls Rumpel “grandpa or grandpa rumps” — I like grandpa rumps better. 😆 😆My wish: I want to see Hook put away the macho act. I want to see him let down his “mask” of charm for real, honest to goodness honesty and emotion.. Not just about how he feels about Emma, but about how he feels about life, and about how he feels since loosing Milah. I want to see them eventually kiss, yes, but first I want some tears, y’all. I want to see Emma find out who “Killian” really is…and fall in love.
May 3, 2013 at 1:56 am #190767surayya
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Does anyone have a Captain Swan wish list for the finale?
Some of mine include:
1)Killian and Emma kiss, then they kiss again and again and again.
2)Lots of Captain Swan eye!sex in-between kissing each otherThe other ones are pretty much rumbelle 😆
okay, one is 3) Emma refers to David and Mary Margaret as mom and dad. 😥 😥
and 4)Henry calls Rumpel “grandpa or grandpa rumps” — I like grandpa rumps better. 😆 😆Numbered for my ease of replying lol 😉
………..A&E making CS canon would be my 1st wish 😆 😆 😉
1) I’m torn on this, on the one hand I want it to happen…like yesterday 😆 😉 but on the other, unless something really ‘big’ happens, I cant see either of them doing anything like that & have it feel genuine- Emma is on tender hooks with Neil in town, will be on flaming egg shells when Henry is kidnapped & Hook is finally just starting to want something other than revenge in his life (thank you A&E!!! They even said something along the lines of him letting revenge & Milah go 😀 )2) Oh hell YES! Count me in on that wish 😉
3) I’ve been waiting ALL season for that! Still waiting for that touching Daddy/Swan moment from the promo to happen!
4)…… I dubbed it Gramplestiltskin 😉 😆 Grampa Charmz 😉
I will add I want Emma & Hook to have a candid ‘chat- aka banter’ about life in general of late (went to post this & saw Sarah TN has said almost the same thing 🙂 ) – it’d set up #2 on the wish list nicely 😉 & lets face it, those 2 have some of the best banter stuff we’ve seen on the show 😉 🙂 😎
I REALLY want Hook to meet Henry- I think those 2 will hit it off 🙂
May 3, 2013 at 2:14 am #190771obisgirl
Participantoh yes, Hook meeting Henry would be awesome. I can imagine Henry, instead of being afraid of him, so like, you’re a pirate?! Awesome 😀 😀 I steered your ship.
another good one, would be Henry picking up after meeting Hook that he likes his mom and then, making it his mission to get them together. 😆
May 3, 2013 at 2:38 am #190776jasminegirl84
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
oh yes, Hook meeting Henry would be awesome. I can imagine Henry, instead of being afraid of him, so like, you’re a pirate?! Awesome 😀 😀 I steered your ship.
another good one, would be Henry picking up after meeting Hook that he likes his mom and then, making it his mission to get them together. 😆
Amen and amen!!!!! Seriously, this would just make my year…..though, I did think it was incredibly cute when he was hoping Swanfire would happen and was naming ways they could get romantic when they had the stakeout. SOOOO cute. I really loved Henry in this eppy. It was the S1 Henry we were dying to see again.
@Surayya wrote:
Welcome aboard Jasminegirl84 🙂
Why thank you! I feel welcome here. A lot of nice and respectful people and love how I’m not the only crazy CS shipper 🙂 Didn’t think I was, but it helps to let go of our pent up frustrations and feels we have for this ship 😆
@Surayya wrote:
]We need to see a calm, totally honest exchange there & Emma needs to admit she will always love/have feelings for Neil in some form- because she will, he gave her Henry & he was her 1st love etc (I think people forget that just because you still love someone, doesn’t mean you have or want to be romantically involved with them). There’s many kinds of love 😉
You hit it right on the head, my dear.. Seriously, this is a much needed convo because Emma does not want to engage in any real convo with Neal, but I think she needs to. Both of them deserve closure….and selfishly so we can move onto some CS eyesex and action! 😎
@Surayya wrote:
isn’t her tattoo meant to be significant? I though A&E mentioned it during S1 somewhere, when someone asked about it…wish I could find the interview 😕 ) & Hook/Killian & Emma themselves
Yes, it may have been Paleyfest when they talked about that? But, I think you are right. They did discuss about possibly exploring the flower tat. And, what would be totally awesome is if Hook asked Emma about it first and that’s how the backstory of it is introduced….Hmmm…..
As for the wishlist….
@Sarah_TN wrote:My wish: I want to see Hook put away the macho act. I want to see him let down his “mask” of charm for real, honest to goodness honesty and emotion.. Not just about how he feels about Emma, but about how he feels about life, and about how he feels since loosing Milah. I want to see them eventually kiss, yes, but first I want some tears, y’all. I want to see Emma find out who “Killian” really is…and fall in love.
YES!!!! I want to see Killian, even a glimpse of him, before the season ends.
Obisgirl, 1&2 are just fine by me…those are bonus points for me. Do I think it will happen this season, nah, but in the future, it should!!!! Otherwise, I protest! And, that won’t be pretty. Your 3&4 are on my wishlist too.
I also want:
1) Emma and David to have a real daughter-father moment.. I have been wanting one and haven’t quite seen them completely bonding like her and MM have.2) Neal and Hook interaction. Whether it be over Emma, or just to see the history they have had in the past…clearly they do since Neal recognizes him and knows how to steer the Jolly Roger.
3) A Henry an Grandpa!Rumple hug. Preferably, with Henry calling him gramps in the process.
4) Mulan showing more emotion and depth…if possible with her character backstory.
5) Aurora reuniting with Philip.
6) Robin Hood backstory.
7)ooooh, and the best one: Daddy Charming yelling at Neal for abandoning Emma. I know JMo was wanting Charming to do something about it, even though it hasn’t happened yet.
That’s it for now….but, I’m sure there will be more I can think of later on!!!
-Aysha
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 3, 2013 at 2:57 am #190779surayya
ParticipantSlightly off topic, but like with Emma/Neil, it does concern CS….. Anyone else having reservations over hints that Hook/Ariel maybe being paired? I’m not keen simply because Ariel is supposed to be very, very young- like 16 young, which is to young to fall for a 30 something pirate (with 300 odd yrs of experiences) imo anyway (I’d rather her fall for a young Prince Eric than Hook) & if they made her obviously mid- late 20’s (like the rest of the Disney princesses on the show), she wouldn’t really be ‘Ariel’ anymore, but more a red haired rip off of Splash- if that makes sense?
Also Eric is suppose to be Ariel’s TL, not Killian.
If they have to make Killian portray a 3rd character, it either should to be a villain- like they do with Rumple- yes I know beast isn’t a ‘true’ villain, but he started out portrayed as mean/bad etc & blossomed into the hero prince (& I’m not keen on Hook becoming another villain!) or keep it in the universe of the Peter Pan story..ie a lost boy, Pan or Indian, otherwise we start to loose major characters out of other stories & it all becomes very confusing trying to keep track of who is really who & who they relate to, along with when, where & how! (ie Rumple= Rumple, Beast, Cinder FGM, Gold- they get away with FGM as it’s such a small role & all the others fit, as Rumple is a minor (as in not disneyfied) FT character, who is portrayed as more of the bad trickster than all out evil, which is similar to Beast).
Esp if they start mixing villains of one land with princes of another- ie less confusing to have a brother or twin (like Charming) than to make Charming, Gaston from Beauty & the Beast for instance- Or Rumple being both Rumple & Beast- than Rumple being Rumple & Adam (name of Beast AFTER curse is broken & he transforms into a ‘good’ prince/hero……I wonder if Rumple will get a name change after TLK & the darkone curse is broken lol).So yeah, I really hope they at least keep any mergers with-in the same story & tell those stories, then have our beloved major FTL characters (ie. Ariel & Eric, Jasmine & Aladdin), have their own separate story with-in the larger story- whether that’s in NL or where ever- they’ve already proven they can do it so well- I just don’t want to see part of our cast become ‘all’ the other beloved villains, princes & princesses of all our other ‘big’ FTL stories merged into one is all.
So it’s not just my little CS shipper heart that’ll break, it’s also my Ariel/Eric one too lol 😉
May 3, 2013 at 2:57 am #190780surayya
Participant@obisgirl wrote:
oh yes, Hook meeting Henry would be awesome. I can imagine Henry, instead of being afraid of him, so like, you’re a pirate?! Awesome 😀 😀 I steered your ship.
another good one, would be Henry picking up after meeting Hook that he likes his mom and then, making it his mission to get them together. 😆
😆 😆 😆 😆 LOVE IT!
May 3, 2013 at 3:10 am #190782surayya
Participant@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
You hit it right on the head, my dear.. Seriously, this is a much needed convo because Emma does not want to engage in any real convo with Neal, but I think she needs to. Both of them deserve closure….and selfishly so we can move onto some CS eyesex and action! 😎
YES to this! A thousand times over! 😉
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
Yes, it may have been Paleyfest when they talked about that? But, I think you are right. They did discuss about possibly exploring the flower tat. And, what would be totally awesome is if Hook asked Emma about it first and that’s how the backstory of it is introduced….Hmmm…..
I think you are right, it may have been Paley last year (might have to see if I can find a vid of the whole panel) & I LOVE that idea!
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
1) Emma and David to have a real daughter-father moment.. I have been wanting one and haven’t quite seen them completely bonding like her and MM have.
2) Neal and Hook interaction. Whether it be over Emma, or just to see the history they have had in the past…clearly they do since Neal recognizes him and knows how to steer the Jolly Roger.
5) Aurora reuniting with Philip.
You are in luck- All happening in the last 2 eps from promo/BS photo spoilers 🙂
@Jasminegirl84 wrote:
7)ooooh, and the best one: Daddy Charming yelling at Neal for abandoning Emma. I know JMo was wanting Charming to do something about it, even though it hasn’t happened yet.
I don’t know how I forgot about that! Agreed!!!! I very much want to see this- he punched Whale for sleeping with Snow while under the curse- why we havent seen him pull Neil up on his treatment of Emma, I don’t know. But I’d hate for them to have him let things stand as they are, esp when he finds out Emma was only in prison because Neil put her there!
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