The Captain Swan thread!

[obisgirl]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I think Neal and Emma will give it another go briefly because they still have leftover feelings for each other. However they will both realise that they were different people when they had been together, and whilst there will always be the “what if” factor in their relationship, they will realise that they can’t just pretend the past eleven years didn’t happen.

I would actually prefer that they never reconnect at all, but yeah, I agree, about the growing apart thing.

[moraha]

I just rewatched “In the name of the brother” – and got reminded of the reaction Emma showed when Gold told her that she has to come searching for his son because “every minute I’m here is a minute closer to me killing Hook”. So Rumple knows too that there is something between the two or he wouldn’t have used Hook to pressure Emma. Also I’m thinking about why they showed us Snow in that moment – to me she looked like a little worried or something… Does that mean that she, too, sensed something there?

[jasminegirl84]

@PriceofMagic wrote:

I think Neal and Emma will give it another go briefly because they still have leftover feelings for each other. However they will both realise that they were different people when they had been together, and whilst there will always be the “what if” factor in their relationship, they will realise that they can’t just pretend the past eleven years didn’t happen.

Exactly, Price! I totally agree.

Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."

[jasminegirl84]

@Moraha wrote:

I just rewatched “In the name of the brother” – and got reminded of the reaction Emma showed when Gold told her that she has to come searching for his son because “every minute I’m here is a minute closer to me killing Hook”. So Rumple knows too that there is something between the two or he wouldn’t have used Hook to pressure Emma. Also I’m thinking about why they showed us Snow in that moment – to me she looked like a little worried or something… Does that mean that she, too, sensed something there?

Might be. Just to be the devil’s advocate here, he could have also pushed her because he knows she won’t allow anyone get killed at the hands of Rumple, being sheriff and for being Emma Swan. David and Emma were literally pulling him off Hook when they were at the accident scene.

Snow might be concerned for the same reason…but, since we’re speaking of Snow’s reaction…she was quite concerned and struck by how Hook was interacting with Emma when he and Cora locked them up in Rumple’s cell. She might be aware of an attraction, at least on Hook’s part since she’s seen his shameless flirting with her as well as the hurt he expressed when Emma “abandoned” him on the beanstalk.

Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."

[surayya]

@Jasminegirl84 wrote:

@Surayya wrote:

@Jasminegirl84 wrote:

The Hookriel’s are trying to escape using CaptianSwan’s dinghy 😆 😆 😆 (Sorry grew up with my Grandfathers yacht & spent heaps of time sailing NZ waters- ship humor is the after effect 😉 )

What is a dinghy? Edumacate me, dear, for I grew up on the “waters” of suburbia in Chicago, and by waters, I mean concrete and asphalt 😆 So, the closest I’ve gotten to sailing is Lake Michigan by dipping my toes in there 😀

Sorry busy weekend. In NZ, you are never more than an couple of hours at most from the ocean, so sometimes forget that not everyone will get the reference. A dinghy is a type of small boat (our’s carried 10), often carried or towed for use as a ship’s boat by a larger vessel. They are usually used as rowboats or have an outboard motor (ours was both), but some are rigged for sailing.

[jasminegirl84]

@Surayya wrote:

Sorry busy weekend. In NZ, you are never more than an couple of hours at most from the ocean, so sometimes forget that not everyone will get the reference. A dinghy is a type of small boat (our’s carried 10), often carried or towed for use as a ship’s boat by a larger vessel. They are usually used as rowboats or have an outboard motor (ours was both), but some are rigged for sailing.

Nothing to be sorry about! Thanks for explaining it to me! I would love to live by the water. It would be a different lifestyle altogether and from what I have heard, NZ is a gorgeous place. Lucky gal!

Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."

[surayya]

With Robin, Cinderella, Red, they all had a connection to something that was happening with the story of a lead character. Looking at how things stand right now overall on the show, and imagining what may be in store for the end of this season and for next season,

Yes I agree entirely & that is exactly my point- these characters are part of the story in their own right, they haven’t stolen other characters identities from our larger story, in order to be a part of it. ie- If we see Aladdin, Regina doesn’t automatically become Jasmine because Jasmine cant be added to the story without it becoming disjointed (I see that as exactly the same as making Hook/Killian, Prince Eric 😉

Yep, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Neither of us is gonna change the other’s mind. I’ve never crack shipped any couple before, but God help me, once I started thinking about the possibilites for Hookriel, it sucked me right in and I ended up reading fanfic. Once you reach that point, you’re sort of a lost cause.

😆 😆 😆 So very true, it’s exactly why we have to agree to disagree 😆 😆 😆

Anybody else slightly bummed right now or is everybody still hopeful?

I feel like awhile back with PaleyFest etc we got so many hints that we were gonna be super happy and that CaptainSwan would get a lot of moments etc and then lately it seems like everything positive that comes out about a ship is SwanFire….I don’t get it!

Yes, I feel the same… at this stage it really bums me out & I’m still watching because A&E have kept promising some CS moments right up until 2 days ago, so I’m holding out hope 😉

I know we need SwanFire to talk about stuff and move past it in order for CaptainSwan to have any legit chance but I feel like the way the interviews etc have been going lately they’re really trying to tease that those two have deep feelings and will be together again soon (especially once Tamara is out of the picture / shown to be evil in front of NealFire) and I just feel so frustrated!

I know & while this may ruffle a few feathers- however its JUST MY OPINION, so please anyone reading this as a SF fan, please just accept it is MY OPINION/THOUGHTS ONLY! …. As things stand atm, SF going canon would turn me entirely off the show, as to me it’s such a highly juvenile concept (& that’s not because I’m a CS shipper, it’s because if they can do something so at odds with the core traits of a major character, which they’ve spent the whole time drumming into us- then I probably wont want to watch the show itself’s endgame anyway)… It’s like saying if my step father had apologized with excuses for the nasty things he had done to my mother- it’d be ok for them to be together..as long as they have feeling for each other- it’s all good. So I either hope they try & it falls apart with them being friends or A&E set Emma up to be so thoroughly self assured, that Emma fans can believe she’d be happy & 100% trusting of the man who abandoned her, sent her to prison for his own crimes & broke her heart etc.

I almost feel like BOTH ships are being teased mercilessly! WHY!?!?!

This is the one thing I hate them doing IF they don’t actually go there. ie IF Bae = Neal = Pan or Hook = Killian = another lead SB character; I’ll be really ticked off- not because the concept isnt cool in both cases, but because at paleyfest, A&E out right said none of the characters we’ve currently seen have a 3rd identity & we’d seen Hook/Killian & Bae/Neal more than once each at that stage.

People are already trying to ship Hook with people we haven’t seen already and I love Hook so IF they do it well I guess I can deal with him finding a different love but sooo not in EvilCaptain territory so for now I still need my CaptainSwan. I don’t want to have to deal with a backup ship unless it’s so awesome right out of the gate that it blows me away and nobody else that we’ve seen yet makes me want to ship them with Hook at all!

& this is exactly 1/2 the reason I ship CS so darn hard- the chemistry between Killian/Emma bounces out of the screen- it’s the reason I’ll be against any other Hook/Killian ships until I see him interact with said person. Emma is the only one who sparks with Hook- they are so vibrant & entertaining to watch, while Emma/Neil are very dull & flat by comparison- there is not person in my family or friends who ship SF now (I used to ship SF all S1 & at the start of S2, but Tallahassee had me shipping CS).

I read that interview with MRJ, and I have a different take on it.

I do not think that there’s any romantic feelings between Neal and Emma. That time is long past. What I do think will happen, is that they will have an honest talk about what happened and why, and it’ll be more of a breaking up scene then getting back together. It’s closure on the relationship basically..

obisgirl…… I could hug you right now- I hadn’t seen that. Thanks for posting it 😀

[surayya]

@AllThatGlitters wrote:

I am a little cautious about whether or not CS is happening since you never know where these writers are going to take us. However, I don’t think they would have the flirtation between Hook/Emma in Tallahassee for no reason. They clearly wanted to show parallels between Neal and Hook as suitors for Emma. It seems like the episodes have been too busy lately to show Emma’s love life so I am wondering if we will see it more in S3. I also wonder if it was delayed or rewritten because Colin broke his leg. Either way, I hope we see some CS or even some Hook/Emma banter by the end of the season.

Yes & they said Emma would have “MANY” suitors this season & that she would be trying out some relationships etc to find out what suits her- 2 is not ‘many’ in my books & aside from a couple of Hook flirtations, we haven’t seen anything else :/

Yeah, I’ve been thinking for a while now, that his broken leg must have altered what was going to happen, poor guy couldn’t be expected to run around SB after Emma on one leg after all 😉 😆 I think he was meant to be in the last 9eps, but is now only in the last 3, I’m just hoping they don’t try to show him as he would be if we’d seen him slowly change & grow over the last 6eps tho… it’d be a little hard to swallow 😐

[surayya]

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

everybody seem to think it has to happen for Henry to have his happy ending too.

(I’m very adament that Henry can have everybody in his life but there HAS to be some merging of the FTL + real world stuff, given that our characters, especially Emma, have had that as a major influence in their lives now and Henry needs to grow up and realize that they can all still love him and be civil with each other without absolutely having to have his parents back together. With their crazy dysfunctional family – since he has Regina in there as well – he’s just gotta learn that having them all in his life and hopefully getting along with each other eventually is enough – at least I hope that’s the case).

I’m with you 1000% I really hate people saying Henry’s HEA is SF- it’s not, having his mother be 100% ok with what Neil did to her is plain stupid IMO & seriously selfish of Henry. Emma maybe pure FTL by birth, but she was broken by a real world up bringing. She needs someone who hasn’t broken her trust & hurt her to her core as her endgame IMO. His HEA, is having his WHOLE family with him- that includes Regina, Emma, Neil, Snowing, Rumbelle & whomever, if anyone any of his parents end up with.
At the end of the day, Henry needs to learn that all his parents will always love him, but it is his parents who CHOOSE who is romantically best for themselves, because after he/ their children leave, that is the one person who will stay behind to love & support them 24/7.

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

Like I said I love Hook and I want to be happy with who he ends up with and right now, for me, that’s just Emma. We had too many wonderful moments in Tallahassee for it all to be for naught!

Obisgirl I absolutely love that pic! I feel so much better now. *Fingers crossed for something wonderful in the last couple of eps* (and by something wonderful, I mean Emma & Neal addressing the past and moving the heck on. Neal can be sweet and all but I don’t want him with Emma anytime soon and there isn’t a magic button to undo the past even if they both learn / understand what exactly happened to tear them apart.

BRING ON CAPTAIN SWAN! (And please, please show Hook in a more positive light so that others see what we saw in Tallahassee. I’m begging you!)

Agree, agree, agree! 😀

[surayya]

@Jasminegirl84 wrote:

@Moraha wrote:

I just rewatched “In the name of the brother” – and got reminded of the reaction Emma showed when Gold told her that she has to come searching for his son because “every minute I’m here is a minute closer to me killing Hook”. So Rumple knows too that there is something between the two or he wouldn’t have used Hook to pressure Emma. Also I’m thinking about why they showed us Snow in that moment – to me she looked like a little worried or something… Does that mean that she, too, sensed something there?

Might be. Just to be the devil’s advocate here, he could have also pushed her because he knows she won’t allow anyone get killed at the hands of Rumple, being sheriff and for being Emma Swan. David and Emma were literally pulling him off Hook when they were at the accident scene.

Snow might be concerned for the same reason…but, since we’re speaking of Snow’s reaction…she was quite concerned and struck by how Hook was interacting with Emma when he and Cora locked them up in Rumple’s cell. She might be aware of an attraction, at least on Hook’s part since she’s seen his shameless flirting with her as well as the hurt he expressed when Emma “abandoned” him on the beanstalk.

Agree with both points of view.
In Tallahassee, while Hook is explaining about the beanstalk etc. There is a close up of Snow observing the conversation between Hook & Emma. It could be there as a nod towards ‘mother’s intuition’ or it could simply be her reaction to one of them needing to scale a beanstalk with Hook & a giant at the top lol. She does seem to be almost sussing out what she is seeing going on between Emma & Hook, with a very thoughtful expression on her face 😉

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