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WATCHING THE VIEW RIGHT NOW, HOPEFULLY WE’LL GET ANOTHER CLIP
I know!!!!! I have to wait after Live to see but Ah I can’t wait?!
You know I don’t get the whole “Hook’s redemption storyline is going way too fast”, even from a purely storyline perspective. Why does every villain have to have a long and drawn out redemption arc? I am also hearing that people are hoping that the WWW is going to REMAIN evil because they are tired of all the villains turning “good.” I actually agree, but that’s also why I don’t understand why Hook can’t be a character who literally met his true love, realized that he no longer wanted to be the villain he became, and decided to go back to the person he used to be. His storyline is unique in that he is having to convince people that he is NO LONGER a villain as opposed to one who is struggling with whether he wants to be one or not. Without differing villain storyline this show would get old really fast. That’s why, as horrendous as Pan was, his villain story was unique – he literally had no redemptive qualities at all – even right up until the end, unlike Cora right at her death, he was still evil.
Both Emma and Hook are fiercely loyal to their families – unfortunately their definition of “family” has not been traditional because of the events that have unfolded in their lives. They both made choices that have negatively affected their lives because of being “left” by people they loved and considered their family (whether by choice or not). Everyone on this show has their own “path” to a happy ending. Just like in real life, some people “get it” faster than others when they realize they need to turn their life around and make some major changes. Some people are literally able to wake up one day and, cold turkey, realize what they need to do and never look back again. Some people struggle for years and NEVER get there. I don’t see why the show shouldn’t portray anything different.
I think a lot of people don’t realize that not every character, or reformed villain isn’t going to have the same type of redemption arc. Every character’s journey is different and their redemption arc will be and IS specific to their character.
Regina’s redemption was the undoing of the curse, Rumple’s redemption was setting aside his need for power to do the right and selfless thing to save other people. Both of those actions are specific to their character arc and what they needed to do to redeem themselves.
And generally, the way I think about Hook’s redemptive arc, once you get praised by Prince Charming for being a hero — that’s it. It’s like getting being blessed by the Pope. You’re a hero, you’re redeemed and no one can take that away from you, or Hook.
You know I don’t get the whole “Hook’s redemption storyline is going way too fast”, even from a purely storyline perspective. Why does every villain have to have a long and drawn out redemption arc? I am also hearing that people are hoping that the WWW is going to REMAIN evil because they are tired of all the villains turning “good.” I actually agree, but that’s also why I don’t understand why Hook can’t be a character who literally met his true love, realized that he no longer wanted to be the villain he became, and decided to go back to the person he used to be. His storyline is unique in that he is having to convince people that he is NO LONGER a villain as opposed to one who is struggling with whether he wants to be one or not. Without differing villain storyline this show would get old really fast. That’s why, as horrendous as Pan was, his villain story was unique – he literally had no redemptive qualities at all – even right up until the end, unlike Cora right at her death, he was still evil. Both Emma and Hook are fiercely loyal to their families – unfortunately their definition of “family” has not been traditional because of the events that have unfolded in their lives. They both made choices that have negatively affected their lives because of being “left” by people they loved and considered their family (whether by choice or not). Everyone on this show has their own “path” to a happy ending. Just like in real life, some people “get it” faster than others when they realize they need to turn their life around and make some major changes. Some people are literally able to wake up one day and, cold turkey, realize what they need to do and never look back again. Some people struggle for years and NEVER get there. I don’t see why the show shouldn’t portray anything different.
@Rumplegoldfan – I want to marry your post. Perfectly said, and exactly why I love the Hook character. Deeply flawed (as they all are), trying to hide it with an entire persona, but there is good under there. I do find the characters struggling between good and bad in general more complex and interesting on this show – sorry, Snowing and Belle fans, they’re a little TOO good for me sometimes! – but Hook’s journey does differ from Regina and Rumple’s, the two villains we’ve seen that have tried to ‘go good’. I like Regina where she is – essentially a good person with one DOOZY of a mother!!! – constantly teetering on that line between the two. I do want to see Rumple go all Dark One again – it is just so much fun.
can’t stop looking at his eyebrows.. they are alive!!!! Haha, is it wrong that I covet those eyebrows?? I mean, I don’t want big ol’ man-brows or anything but I love how they’re like their own separate entity attached to his face! 🙂
You know I don’t get the whole “Hook’s redemption storyline is going way too fast”, even from a purely storyline perspective. Why does every villain have to have a long and drawn out redemption arc? I am also hearing that people are hoping that the WWW is going to REMAIN evil because they are tired of all the villains turning “good.” I actually agree, but that’s also why I don’t understand why Hook can’t be a character who literally met his true love, realized that he no longer wanted to be the villain he became, and decided to go back to the person he used to be. His storyline is unique in that he is having to convince people that he is NO LONGER a villain as opposed to one who is struggling with whether he wants to be one or not. Without differing villain storyline this show would get old really fast. That’s why, as horrendous as Pan was, his villain story was unique – he literally had no redemptive qualities at all – even right up until the end, unlike Cora right at her death, he was still evil. Both Emma and Hook are fiercely loyal to their families – unfortunately their definition of “family” has not been traditional because of the events that have unfolded in their lives. They both made choices that have negatively affected their lives because of being “left” by people they loved and considered their family (whether by choice or not). Everyone on this show has their own “path” to a happy ending. Just like in real life, some people “get it” faster than others when they realize they need to turn their life around and make some major changes. Some people are literally able to wake up one day and, cold turkey, realize what they need to do and never look back again. Some people struggle for years and NEVER get there. I don’t see why the show shouldn’t portray anything different.
Awesome post! I don’t get it either to me Hook’s redemptive arc which coincidentally follows his dalliance with Emma has been the one love story where every moment between the couple has been played out before our eyes without flashbacks. It’s really been beautiful to see develop scene by scene. To go back and see where their relationship started and then to see where it is now and where it’s headed. I think it’s been the best love story on the show cause of how well it’s been developed.
And True Love can redeem a person. Rumpelstiltskin is a perfect example here. His love for Belle helped make him strong enough to face the prophecy and do the right thing.
Same thing will probably be true for Regina once she meets Robin Hood.
Oh wow! Great point, SK. It never occurred to me that CS is the ONE romantic couple that has played out in “real time” on the show. I mean, I guess I always knew it but never really thought about it that way. It’s just another thing that solidifies to me that CS are supposed to be THE big True Love couple on the show – that they would want to show the entire relationship develop from the very beginning. And interesting how we got back story on Hook before we got any interaction with Hook and Emma together. I mean they obviously had to introduce him so the audience would already know he was Hook when she found him, but they were already establishing a soft spot for him from the beginning – that he became Captain Hook because of losing Milah, even though he wasn’t squeaky clean at that time. So we were NEVER supposed to think of Hook as a villain in the way that we thought of Rumple and Regina as villains – we had much more time to see them being evil before we got their back stories. We were really supposed to focus on the fact that Hook had spent 300 years plotting revenge on Rumple for killing the woman he loved – the entire time we knew Hook was Hook because he lost someone he loved. Then we got even MORE backstory on him that showed that he once was INCREDIBLY squeaky clean. His story has really been handled totally differently from Rumple’s and Regina’s.
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