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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • March 23, 2014 at 2:07 pm #254866
    Arianne Grace
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    March 23, 2014 at 3:06 pm #254878
    Jenna_B
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    In terms of ratings, I don’t think we have anything to work about.  3×13 retained 3×12’s numbers and those plus the demos were very good for this day and timeslot.

    I do like tumblr but it seems so much more impersonal than our little thread here.  I do find a good amount of thought provoking stuff there…I’ll have to post them here more… Like I tell myself and then forget to do!  I think now thar they’ve laid down the foundation for 3b, it’ll start giving us more to analyze and analyze and analyze some more!!!

    March 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm #254916
    callmeLola
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    http://fyesemmaandhook.tumblr.com/

    Emma +Hook=smiles

    March 23, 2014 at 4:33 pm #254918
    callmeLola
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    http://hooked-on-hiddles.tumblr.com/page/2

    I look at Colin’s face in the first two frames and it seems to me like he’s trying not to laugh. I don’t know, maybe JMO’s making silly faces at him while he’s doing his lines. Whatever, it works.

    March 23, 2014 at 4:38 pm #254919
    callmeLola
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    http://hooked-on-hiddles.tumblr.com/page/2

    Can’t stop looking at that sexy swagger.

    March 23, 2014 at 4:50 pm #254921
    PriceofMagic
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    I like how Hook and Emma have been working as a team. Previously, Hook has been one of the characters that I wouldn’t have minded being the death but now I don’t want Hook to go. I just wish Hook would apologise to Belle, once we see him do that or at least get some indication that he has done so, then I could like him even more.

    I am beginning to wonder whether or not it is realistically possible for Neal and Emma to get back together romantically. Even though Neal left Emma for noble reasons, at the end of the day, Emma spent a great deal of her life feeling hurt over Neal’s betrayal. She spent a great deal of her life having trust issues because she didn’t want to leave herself open and vulnerable to that kind of hurt again. Although Emma now knows why Neal has left her and she has kind of forgiven him for it, that kind of hurt doesn’t go away. Emma can forgive but she can’t forget. There will always be that worry in the back of her mind that Neal will disappear on her again and this time Henry too. Neal is still disappearing on Emma, though it may not be through choice, but he is not consistently there for her.

    The main obstacle I have to shipping CS romantically is that both Emma and Hook want different things out of life. Emma wants to settle down with her family whilst Hook wants adventure. I can’t see Hook happy to settle down on dry land for the rest of his days, never to sail the sea on the JR again. Same with I can’t see Emma ready to leave her family after she has spent so long finding them. She wouldn’t leave Henry and Henry wouldn’t leave Regina. It just seems one of those major issues where, although Emma and Hook may get on great with each other, one person is going to end up unhappy.

    Maybe we have already been given the answer to the CSF triangle. As Emma said in Neverland, “If I had to choose, I’d choose Henry”. THE CSF triangle has seemed to have taken a back seat in 3B so maybe neither Hook nor Neal will end up with Emma. The only guy who “gets” Emma will be Henry.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    March 23, 2014 at 5:24 pm #254924
    obisgirl
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    I’d like to address a few things here:

    I just wish Hook would apologize to Belle, once we see him do that or at least get some indication that he has done so, then I could like him even more.

    The way I think about bad stuff that happens on this show, differentiating between what is and isn’t important — stuff that keeps being brought up within the show  = important.  Stuff that is only brought up by the fans and isn’t addressed within the show = not important.

    I’m sure Hook feels some remorse for what he did to Belle but if Belle doesn’t linger on it or even ask Rumple to avenge her, means it is not a crucial thing that happened to Belle.  And remember, the way Belle is, she doesn’t hold onto vendettas.  Remember after Rumple found out that Regina had her locked up, Rumple wanted to go after Regina but that was not what Belle wanted.

    I am beginning to wonder whether or not it is realistically possible for Neal and Emma to get back together romantically. Even though Neal left Emma for noble reasons, at the end of the day, Emma spent a great deal of her life feeling hurt over Neal’s betrayal. She spent a great deal of her life having trust issues because she didn’t want to leave herself open and vulnerable to that kind of hurt again. Although Emma now knows why Neal has left her and she has kind of forgiven him for it, that kind of hurt doesn’t go away. Emma can forgive but she can’t forget. There will always be that worry in the back of her mind that Neal will disappear on her again and this time Henry too. Neal is still disappearing on Emma, though it may not be through choice, but he is not consistently there for her.

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    Yes, I agree to all of this.  I’ve always said, Hook is not the obstacle towards SwanFire working. The real obstacles are actually Emma (primarily her) but also Neal.  It is true, you can forgive someone for doing wrong to you but you don’t ever forget that wrong. Heck, I’m even guilty of this in real life!

    The main obstacle I have to shipping CS romantically is that both Emma and Hook want different things out of life. Emma wants to settle down with her family whilst Hook wants adventure. I can’t see Hook happy to settle down on dry land for the rest of his days, never to sail the sea on the JR again.

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    Emma wants to be with her family but she also craves stability too and I think ultimately, that’s also something Hook wants too.

    I think only classifying Hook as a pirate only after adventure is a huge disservice to his character but that’s not why he became a pirate.  He became a pirate because he lost his brother, because the king he worked for wasn’t true and honorable.  Likewise, he became a villain because the love of his life was violently taken from him. But both times, he crossed over to the darkside because of the loss of love in his life.  He didn’t become a pirate for adventure, he became a pirate out of necessity because he refused to serve a corrupt king.

    It just seems one of those major issues where, although Emma and Hook may get on great with each other, one person is going to end up unhappy.

    I strongly disagree.  I think Hook’s proven that Hook will do whatever is necessary for Emma.  He will fight for her goals, her needs, her happiness even if he doesn’t think it’s with him.  Hook puts Emma first in a way that Neal never really did.

    Do you mean Hook being with Emma will make him unhappy because domestic life will take him away from his pirating ways? I don’t really think so.  He is who he is but I think Emma sees now, that he’s more than a pirate and he is a good man.  I don’t think she expects him to give up his pirate life for her but seriously, who knows? The thing about Hook, the one he doesn’t want is to be alone.

    Charming gave up the good life he could have had in order to be with Snow.

    March 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm #254927
    tiara_rose
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    Congrulations for 800 sites

    Heros don't get their Happy Ending!

    March 23, 2014 at 5:49 pm #254928
    PriceofMagic
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    @obisgirl, what I mean is Hook has a strong love for the sea. He may give up pirating as such but he’d still want to sail rather than being stuck on dry land until the end of his days. Maybe Emma and Hook could go on monthly sailing trips then both get what they want, Hook isn’t completely cut off from the sea, Emma gets to be with her family for most of the time, Henry gets chance to see all his parents if he stays behind whilst Hook and Emma are off sailing. Everybody wins.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    March 23, 2014 at 5:59 pm #254934
    obisgirl
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    I don’t even see that as a big hinderance in the relationship.  I think that’s why your unhappy comment confused me.

    I think we’re going to see eventually, Hook’s home is going to be wherever Emma is.  He will be wherever she is.

    Snow views Charming much the same way.  She didn’t have a real home until she met Charming.

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