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Can someone tell me if the Once podcast is safe to listen to or not? Given the tone of many in the chat, I dont want to risk listening to anything that’ll climb up my nose (I get people are upset, but not interested in some of backlash that has gone on in there today).
No it’s ok to listen to I enjoyed the show
Awesome thanks 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]I don’t think Neal’s death does anything negative to CS, in fact I think it will make them stronger. In the past, prior to her fake memories, EVERYTHING about NEAL made Emma weak and scared, but if you noticed she was NEVER once nervous or scared hearing about Neal being back, she was confident and comfortable talking to him, but she was also not at all acting unsure of whether she wanted to be with him – it was quite clear she was no longer emotionally needy with him the way she used to be – if she was she never would have been able to do what HAD to be done knowing it would result in his death. I actually think that was the reason A and E chose to go the route they did. Snow has said before that she couldn’t go on if Charming died because they are TL. How much clearer could A and E have been making it that Neal was never Emma’s TL than for her to actually be the one who ultimately who KILLS him? You don’t willingly kill your TL, they did it to prove that when Emma realizes Hook is her TL it isn’t just because Neal is dead – which is what a lot of people are going to say. This is also why a lot of people don’t like the way Neal died. They believe SF were TL so the way he died makes no sense to them – it’s never going to if you actually ever believed they were TL. I think the way he died does give Emma a great amount of respect for Neal though that wasn’t there either before or after her fake memories that will trump what he did to her when they were younger. So I think it helps her with her walls in regard to Neal – like so can completely and totally move on from him now.
And I think his DEATH made her stronger. She said in the Echo Cave in a WAY that she was hoping he was dead but when she told Henry his father was dead and that she was going to find the person who did it there was a strength to her as the Savior that hasn’t been there for awhile. His death has given her a PURPOSE as the Savior again. I think these are all good things for CS.
I think that Hook and Emma will both be mourning and bonding over Neal’s death AGAIN but in a different way this time since they BOTH had a chance to reconcile their relationships with him before he died and he isn’t part of Emma’s wall anymore.
LOL Surayya. Those Hook pics are hilarious.
I really really really liked Hook this episode.
He apologised to Belle- Yay!
He made up with Neal and admitted they’d been silly fighting over a woman- Yay!I don’t have a bad word to say against Hook this episode.
What I hope for now is that the writers won’t immediately rush into CaptainSwan. Both Emma and Hook need time to mourn and grieve over Neal (I’m not entirely convinced he’s completely dead dead until we get some official confirmation). If they jump the gun too early with CS, then it makes it look like Hook is being a bit of a douche and making his move whilst Emma is down and emotionally vulnerable.
After all the character development Hook has had this half of the season, I don’t want it to be ruined by the writers trying to push CS too early.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixGood morning everyone. Hope everyone survived the aftermath that was last nights episode. I watched the 7pm airing and really liked the episode. Tried to avoid the chat after that though. We knew the death was coming and I’m glad Neal got the chance to die a hero, but I thought the whole thing was too rushed. I can certainly understand why SF shippers are upset, I would be too. The writers had three previous episodes to build up to this. There;s going to be some bad blood for a while. Give everyone a chance to mourn.
Enjoyed the CaptainFire scene even though it felt like they were just tying up loose ends. Hook with Belle was hilarious. Belle has such a big heart and can forgive anything, but I’m happy that she called him out on what he did to her. Poor boy doesn’t know how to apologize with any grace. Emma and Neal chatting in the woods was fantastic. Emma baby had a genuine smile going on! They left off in a good place emotionally. Regina and Robin were just so hot together. Really looking forward to more of that.
That Wicked Witch need to die a miserable death after this. Bring it, greenie!
Ok I’ll just say it what does this death to as far as our ship is concerned?
I don’t think it really changes much *in the show* because Neal was never a barrier to CS just as Hook was never a barrier to SF. At most it will slow it down due to grief/mourning and respect for Neal. Personally though I wish Emma would have chosen Hook before a Neal death because that sets up a lot of problems within the fandom. Obviously not all SF fans are like this but there was definitely a lot of “fan service”, “Once Upon a Hook”, etc. comments last night, particularly on Twitter. Hopefully once things settle it will get better. It makes me sad that there is so much hate in the fandom.
I don’t mean to rub salt in the wound to any SF shipper that happens to look into this thread but…..what I found curious is that a lot of people have said that they established Neal and Emma as TL’s this episode and I just don’t see it. I know Belle said something about that but that doesn’t make it so. Neal even admitted that they never found Tallahassee. Perhaps it would have been selfish to leave Neal/Rumple as they were to keep Neal alive but I don’t see Snowing making the choice that Emma did, which knowingly resulted in Neal’s death. Why wasn’t TLK even tried? I know he told Rumple he loved him but did he tell Emma he loved her?
The death and how it happened just makes me more nervous about the potential wedding
Haven’t watched the episode yet but I have been saving gifs and I monitored tumblr last night during the east coast airing because I was editing my True Love meta.
From what I’ve seen on tumblr though, it looks like Neal finally gave Emma the closure that she needed, and his blessing that he wants her to move on and find happiness again. This is what Emma wanted in Ariel, to move on because like Regina, it’s too painful to continue clinging to the past. And Emma said herself that she wished Neal was really dead because it would be easier for her than the face all the pain all over again.
I do feel like now since Neal gave her the OK to move on and be happy again, she will be more receptive of Hook’s feelings and will allow herself to love him. Even more remarkable is that Neal finally accepted that moving on is what Emma wanted.
And I think Hook will respect Emma’s grieving period and be there for her, console her when she needs it but definitely not push her into a relationship. He is extremely patient when it comes to Emma and will give her space.
Haven’t watched the episode yet…
Have lots of tissues ready when you see it.
My tumblr page is http://cs-in-tn.tumblr.com/
I’ll have my boyfriend with me which is even better. But I’ll have tissues too.
Thanks for the warning 🙂
Ok so I just finished the episode and boy was that sad… I never really disliked Neal but I can say this episode is the only episode that I loved him to bits. Too bad he died though.
I agree with most of you, even though Belle said Neal/Emma being true love. I think they truly loved each other and were happy but they aren’t true loves. I don’t think Neal is going to return back from the dead though. Though I found it odd that they had to zoom on that part where Zelena stepped over Neal’s head.
As @obisgirl said, Neal gave Emma the blessing to find her new love. To find her “home”. Remember the scene where Regina’s first love said the same thing before he died? It’s just like that. It will be hard and the writers should be careful, but this death will lead to more Cs development.
CaptainFire scene was amazing. I really felt how Hook longed to hug Neal/Bae like that. Collin is a good actor lol.
I know a lot of SF fans are pissed and mourning right now. I would be if it was Hook. I am sorry for them but I hope they wont take it on the actors.
On the side not, when Neal asked to be alone with Emma in the hospital, did you guys notice Emma looking at Hook like ” it’s ok babe, we’ll just talk”. And when Hook was walking away Emma had to look back at him XD… so married
On the side not, when Neal asked to be alone with Emma in the hospital, did you guys notice Emma looking at Hook like ” it’s ok babe, we’ll just talk”. And when Hook was walking away Emma had to look back at him XD… so married
Haha I saw that too 🙂 The look she gave him to get him to apologize to Belle also made me think of a married couple.
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