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Emma’s wearing a ring?! WHY IS SHE WEARING A RING WHY IS SHE WEARING A RING WHY IS SHE WEARING A RING!?!?!
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First I have to say Colin Looks so happy and handsome. he must be so happy to be out of his regular outfit. He probably likes not having to wear the deepV neck or the leather pants. It is probably way more comfortable.
Ok, I’m coming to our refuge to vent a little…. HOW DID I MANAGE TO GET SUCKED INTO THE HOOK ARGUMENT(S) AGAIN?!?!?! WHEN WILL I LEARN?! And why does it bug me so much. Wait, I remember why. Because I still do not get how Hook cannot have some good in him if characters like Regina and Rumple can. Because every character has some good and some bad in them – one of the main themes of the show. I don’t get it. I ask fans who I would consider some of the more knowledgeable of other characters their thoughts and opinions because I don’t want to back myself into a corner and I want to look at the show from multiple points of view. I’m trying not to watch with ‘shipper goggles’. I grasp that people are upset about last week – I am too, I am not happy Neal’s dead and I’m not happy about how they did it. And I loved his scenes with Emma and Hook and Rumple and want MORE. But seriously, at some point it’s like, I’m gonna freaking blow. Let’s try something new instead of the ol’ using Hook as the punching bag argument. It’s old, it’s stale. The cell. Hook left her because he was angry – and impressed – and didn’t for a second think she wouldn’t get out. The swordfight. If he wanted her dead, she’d be dead. “But what’s the fun in killing the girl I just met that I’m frankly quite attracted to? Oh, crap, she just smacked me upside the head with the object I forgot I’m supposed to be taking from her. And, wait, love, before we start our swordfight, here’s yer heart Sleeping Beauty. Wasn’t gonna let you go off without that, either.” The bean. “The bean I looked at before I even got out of the harbor and realized my revenge that I’ve hung onto was futile and not worth it? That bean? Let me turn around, bring it back, and lend myself and my ship to go back to the place I was trapped in for 300 years with super-creepy-evil Pan and his equally-creepy-Boys?” Seriously, people! Rumple dropped his kid down a portal to god knows where!! Regina cursed an entire kingdom because she was sad and blamed her STEPDAUGHTER. Granny slept in the EF with a crossbow because her granddaughter was a wolf and killed her boyfriend. By ripping him apart. Whale tried to ressurrect his brother – that’s just gross. And didn’t Jefferson kidnap Emma or try to kill Emma or something to that effect? I got lost in that twirly magic-hat storyline. Okie, dokie. Time to breathe. I’m better now. Sorry about the rant, but I warned you!! In other news, Killy in a new outfit! HOW HOT IS OUR PIRATE?! Sigh. Swoon. Sigh. Hahaha, @Obisgirl, now I need to check out mine…
totally agree 1000% . You know Rumple was my second favourite character. It was Hook, rumple and teen Bae. I still like rumple, but the double standard on various forums compels to make posts calling out rumple for the evil he has done. It blows me away how anyone can think that Hook is any where near the level of either Rumple or Regina. I have seen people argue that Hook is worse because he challenged a pre dark Rumple to a duel and humiliated the cowardly Rumple. I agree it’s not Hook’s finest hour but there is no way that is worse then maiming someone or killing someone. Rumple doesn’t get too much sympathy from me for crippling himself, anymore than an orphan who killed his own parents, especially when he crippled himself so that braver better men could die to defend his home, his family.
the whole he left her on a cell to die argument ignores that Emma tied Hook to a tree, whistled to attract the ogres and planned on leaving him after he told them the truth. They only released him after he convinced them he could be valuable to them. There was no mercy, no goodness on team princess side. Despite that he still works with them, only to betrayed by Emma up with giant. Emma knew that hook was being sincere and she willfully ignored that Cora was as much of a threat as the giant to Hook and really Cora only spared Hook’s life to make him suffer. At that point he owed team princess nothing. They used him and showed no to very little regard for his safety so it would extremely hypocritical and ridiculous of them to expect better treatment from him.
what is interesting was that Snow and Emma were willing to kill Mulan and let Aurora die to keep the compass and go to Storybrook.
i also think that hook’s quest to slay the beast that murdered his love is actually far more understandable and justifiable than anything motivating Rumple or Regina. let’s be honest many hero’s stories are about bringing cold blooded murderers/beasts to justice. except for Belle (who is an ally and willfully blind, hypocritical defender of Rumple) hook has limited the collateral damage in the pursuit of his goals unlike either Rumple or Regina. I want to write one more thing– belle fans often like to argue that belle saved Hook’s life and therefore Hook was even worse for shooting her. that argument does not move me. Belle pleaded with a Rumple to spare Hook’s life because she wanted to prove that rumple was a better man than hook, that rumple was not a bad person. She didn’t care about hook. She was disgusted by him. Hook also preferred to die, so she gets no points from me for that.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
It’s not on her ring finger though- just the middle one
oh right, thanks lol I see ring on Emma’s hand and I flipped especially after half of tumblr blew up with these proposal theories from this stain on Killian’s knee
EDIT: Although… in Snow Falls the first time Snow wears her now-wedding ring is on her right hand, middle finger
First I have to say Colin Looks so happy and handsome. he must be so happy to be out of his regular outfit. He probably likes not having to wear the deepV neck or the leather pants. It is probably way more comfortable.
Ok, I’m coming to our refuge to vent a little…. HOW DID I MANAGE TO GET SUCKED INTO THE HOOK ARGUMENT(S) AGAIN?!?!?! WHEN WILL I LEARN?! And why does it bug me so much. Wait, I remember why. Because I still do not get how Hook cannot have some good in him if characters like Regina and Rumple can. Because every character has some good and some bad in them – one of the main themes of the show. I don’t get it. I ask fans who I would consider some of the more knowledgeable of other characters their thoughts and opinions because I don’t want to back myself into a corner and I want to look at the show from multiple points of view. I’m trying not to watch with ‘shipper goggles’. I grasp that people are upset about last week – I am too, I am not happy Neal’s dead and I’m not happy about how they did it. And I loved his scenes with Emma and Hook and Rumple and want MORE. But seriously, at some point it’s like, I’m gonna freaking blow. Let’s try something new instead of the ol’ using Hook as the punching bag argument. It’s old, it’s stale. The cell. Hook left her because he was angry – and impressed – and didn’t for a second think she wouldn’t get out. The swordfight. If he wanted her dead, she’d be dead. “But what’s the fun in killing the girl I just met that I’m frankly quite attracted to? Oh, crap, she just smacked me upside the head with the object I forgot I’m supposed to be taking from her. And, wait, love, before we start our swordfight, here’s yer heart Sleeping Beauty. Wasn’t gonna let you go off without that, either.” The bean. “The bean I looked at before I even got out of the harbor and realized my revenge that I’ve hung onto was futile and not worth it? That bean? Let me turn around, bring it back, and lend myself and my ship to go back to the place I was trapped in for 300 years with super-creepy-evil Pan and his equally-creepy-Boys?” Seriously, people! Rumple dropped his kid down a portal to god knows where!! Regina cursed an entire kingdom because she was sad and blamed her STEPDAUGHTER. Granny slept in the EF with a crossbow because her granddaughter was a wolf and killed her boyfriend. By ripping him apart. Whale tried to ressurrect his brother – that’s just gross. And didn’t Jefferson kidnap Emma or try to kill Emma or something to that effect? I got lost in that twirly magic-hat storyline. Okie, dokie. Time to breathe. I’m better now. Sorry about the rant, but I warned you!! In other news, Killy in a new outfit! HOW HOT IS OUR PIRATE?! Sigh. Swoon. Sigh. Hahaha, @Obisgirl, now I need to check out mine…
totally agree 1000% . You know Rumple was my second favourite character. It was Hook, rumple and teen Bae. I still like rumple, but the double standard on various forums compels to make posts calling out rumple for the evil he has done. It blows me away how anyone can think that Hook is any where near the level of either Rumple or Regina. I have seen people argue that Hook is worse because he challenged a pre dark Rumple to a duel and humiliated the cowardly Rumple. I agree it’s not Hook’s finest hour but there is no way that is worse then maiming someone or killing someone. Rumple doesn’t get too much sympathy from me for crippling himself, anymore than an orphan who killed his own parents, especially when he crippled himself so that braver better men could die to defend his home, his family. the whole he left her on a cell to die argument ignores that Emma tied Hook to a tree, whistled to attract the ogres and planned on leaving him after he told them the truth. They only released him after he convinced them he could be valuable to them. There was no mercy, no goodness on team princess side. Despite that he still works with them, only to betrayed by Emma up with giant. Emma knew that hook was being sincere and she willfully ignored that Cora was as much of a threat as the giant to Hook and really Cora only spared Hook’s life to make him suffer. At that point he owed team princess nothing. They used him and showed no to very little regard for his safety so it would extremely hypocritical and ridiculous of them to expect better treatment from him. what is interesting was that Snow and Emma were willing to kill Mulan and let Aurora die to keep the compass and go to Storybrook. i also think that hook’s quest to slay the beast that murdered his love is actually far more understandable and justifiable than anything motivating Rumple or Regina. let’s be honest many hero’s stories are about bringing cold blooded murderers/beasts to justice. except for Belle (who is an ally and willfully blind, hypocritical defender of Rumple) hook has limited the collateral damage in the pursuit of his goals unlike either Rumple or Regina. I want to write one more thing– belle fans often like to argue that belle saved Hook’s life and therefore Hook was even worse for shooting her. that argument does not move me. Belle pleaded with a Rumple to spare Hook’s life because she wanted to prove that rumple was a better man than hook, that rumple was not a bad person. She didn’t care about hook. She was disgusted by him. Hook also preferred to die, so she gets no points from me for that.
Perfect post is perfect! Very well said @sweetgrass! I totally forgot some of the points you made in there!
I think at this stage EVERY character- good or bad, as hurt or had someone to be killed (in various ways/shapes/forms). No one is innocent.
As far as Hook goes, he has done more good than bad, so as far as I’m concerned, the writing has Clearly been showing from day one, that he is an Anti-Hero, who is now a Hero, or at least at close as a pirate can get (Dread Pirate Roberts anyone 😉 )
It’s not on her ring finger though- just the middle one
oh right, thanks lol I see ring on Emma’s hand and I flipped especially after half of tumblr blew up with these proposal theories from this stain on Killian’s knee EDIT: Although… in Snow Falls the first time Snow wears her now-wedding ring is on her right hand, middle finger
Good point there.
Ok, I’m coming to our refuge to vent a little…. HOW DID I MANAGE TO GET SUCKED INTO THE HOOK ARGUMENT(S) AGAIN?!?!?! WHEN WILL I LEARN?! And why does it bug me so much. Wait, I remember why. Because I still do not get how Hook cannot have some good in him if characters like Regina and Rumple can. Because every character has some good and some bad in them – one of the main themes of the show. I don’t get it. I ask fans who I would consider some of the more knowledgeable of other characters their thoughts and opinions because I don’t want to back myself into a corner and I want to look at the show from multiple points of view. I’m trying not to watch with ‘shipper goggles’. I grasp that people are upset about last week – I am too, I am not happy Neal’s dead and I’m not happy about how they did it. And I loved his scenes with Emma and Hook and Rumple and want MORE. But seriously, at some point it’s like, I’m gonna freaking blow. Let’s try something new instead of the ol’ using Hook as the punching bag argument. It’s old, it’s stale. The cell. Hook left her because he was angry – and impressed – and didn’t for a second think she wouldn’t get out. The swordfight. If he wanted her dead, she’d be dead. “But what’s the fun in killing the girl I just met that I’m frankly quite attracted to? Oh, crap, she just smacked me upside the head with the object I forgot I’m supposed to be taking from her. And, wait, love, before we start our swordfight, here’s yer heart Sleeping Beauty. Wasn’t gonna let you go off without that, either.” The bean. “The bean I looked at before I even got out of the harbor and realized my revenge that I’ve hung onto was futile and not worth it? That bean? Let me turn around, bring it back, and lend myself and my ship to go back to the place I was trapped in for 300 years with super-creepy-evil Pan and his equally-creepy-Boys?” Seriously, people! Rumple dropped his kid down a portal to god knows where!! Regina cursed an entire kingdom because she was sad and blamed her STEPDAUGHTER. Granny slept in the EF with a crossbow because her granddaughter was a wolf and killed her boyfriend. By ripping him apart. Whale tried to ressurrect his brother – that’s just gross. And didn’t Jefferson kidnap Emma or try to kill Emma or something to that effect? I got lost in that twirly magic-hat storyline. Okie, dokie. Time to breathe. I’m better now. Sorry about the rant, but I warned you!! In other news, Killy in a new outfit! HOW HOT IS OUR PIRATE?! Sigh. Swoon. Sigh. Hahaha, @Obisgirl, now I need to check out mine…
You know what ticks me off about the whole “he left her in a cell to die thing” ….. Didnt Charming tell Snow to give him back his jewels (while he had her hanging in that net), OR he’d turn her over to the Evil Queen KNOWING said EQ wanted Snow DEAD. So Charming was out right WILLING to have Snow killed for some jewels ….. how is that any different than Hook allowing Emma to suffer (because he didnt look willing in that scene, he looked ticked & a touch regretful), in a cell for betraying him & forcing him to work with a literally heartless, evil women again, to get where he needed to go…. blows my mind. I pretty much decided to stay away from any remotely Neal/SF related threads for the next 2eps. I do understand what you are saying, I accidentally walked into an anti Hook conversation on here- got ticked off & left (was annoyed I couldnt post at the time, but glad for it now lol). The same old few insisting on Hook being “evil” or #1 villain is growing old- how many times does A&E have to say Regina & Hook have “changed” before the message sinks in. At this point even IF CS did happen, they got married, had kids, a little house, with a white picket fence & Killian saved whales & dolphins, while giving free sailing trips & star mapping lessons to orphans everyday, some would still insist he is evil – It’s extremely sad really.
ha haha so funny and sadly true. No sooner did we rebuff all their insults and accusations did it seriously and literally start over. I was still at work going on my 13th hour and was a little tired and agitated. .. I kept telling my self just leave but i kept getting sucked back in. lol. i just have to stay away i think.
yes… how hot does he look in those jackets. love it. You know he’s going somewhere special…. no deep v. Hehe. i think this is my favorite spoiler… i hope he gets an appreciative look from Snow to undermine all those eye rolls. lol. Oh and a little jealousy from Emma when everyone is staring at her pirate thinking. .. yum.
^^^ All the points they brought up against Hook being redeemed had been addressed in the show. I rather them just say he’ll never be redeemed for me and I have no basis for that opinion.
^^^ All the points they brought up against Hook being redeemed had been addressed in the show. I rather them just say he’ll never be redeemed for me and I have no basis for that opinion.
This! I too wish they’d just man up & say “he wont ever be redeemed in m eyes”, rather than trying to justify all the bollocks they bring up, which either 1) has been addressed or 2) isnt fact/true. I’m not ashamed to admit that while I’m saddened by Neal’s death, I still dont see him allowing Emma to go to prison, then abandoning her Twice (at least) more as being redeemed- however Emma seems to be ‘over it’ so I have to build a bridge, deal & move on. Same is true of some of Rumple’s actions- some of Belle’s less than true/informed remarks & many of Regina’s actions.
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