- This topic has 12,956 replies, 132 voices, and was last updated 8 years, 1 month ago by
.
-
Posts
-
From Entertainment Outlook: It looks like Emma will have to find a way to cross the bridge safely,witch could involve the help of a mysterious Knight in shining armour. We’ve already had several references to ‘The Princess Bride’ when it comes to Hook and Emma and from the TV promo , it looks like we could have another one, as the Knight dramatically reveals his true identity by removing his helmet – revealing not her father Charming, but her true love Killian Jones – the man of honour. [x] Looks like that post on tumblr I found, was actually correct.
Holy crap!!! Emma has to use magic to save a knight? And the Knight ends up being Killian 🙂 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]
Holy smoke! If Entertainment Outlooks is correct, I just may pass out of feels overload tomorrow lol! UGH! still 23 hrs to go people!
I’m not sure Hook knows ‘exactly’ how Neal left Emma, he just knows he left her (unless Emma or Henry has told him, but I cant see post curse 2.0 Emma spilling the beans on that in a hurry, as she had no intention on telling Snowing about her ‘almost’ marriage).
Hook knows at the very least the gist – she says in the diner “As far as he’s (Henry) concerned, I haven’t seen Neal since he left me in jail” when he offers to take Henry for a few hours. (haha, yeah, I did a rewatch. Or 2. Chat can get confusing – note to self – don’t take polls in chat) You know, when she leans in and starts fluttering the lashes like mad. haha.
I don’t know, I really can’t wrap my head around the knight thing. Is Emma able to actually reach that deeply to conjure up a Knight Killy? She’d have to dig through a LOT of layers she hides and avoids from herself to conjure up 1st Killian then Knight Killy. But I do like the idea…
Well I hope Entertainment outlook is correct, but after reading the whole thing, they are speculating from what we’ve seen to date on the show & the sneaks peeks as well lol-full article here http://www.entertainmentoutlook.com/2014/04/12/once-upon-a-time-emma-and-hook-spoilers-in-the-jolly-roger/
Funny thing is, they either got a SC shipper to write it, or we arent the only ones seeing what we see, as this article contains many of the ‘interpretations’ & outcomes of storylines that we’ve being banging on about for mths lol
If it goes down as we think it will this
pretty much will sum CS’ers up tomorrow lolI’m not sure Hook knows ‘exactly’ how Neal left Emma, he just knows he left her (unless Emma or Henry has told him, but I cant see post curse 2.0 Emma spilling the beans on that in a hurry, as she had no intention on telling Snowing about her ‘almost’ marriage).
Hook knows at the very least the gist – she says in the diner “As far as he’s (Henry) concerned, I haven’t seen Neal since he left me in jail” when he offers to take Henry for a few hours. (haha, yeah, I did a rewatch. Or 2. Chat can get confusing – note to self – don’t take polls in chat) You know, when she leans in and starts fluttering the lashes like mad. haha. I don’t know, I really can’t wrap my head around the knight thing. Is Emma able to actually reach that deeply to conjure up a Knight Killy? She’d have to dig through a LOT of layers she hides and avoids from herself to conjure up 1st Killian then Knight Killy. But I do like the idea…
Oh yes, she did too, forgot about that lol…. How much did those 2 talk that night alone after monkey boy turned to smoke?! LOL 😉
Agree with your 2nd point- which is part of my niggle about it- but I’m willing to watch it play out 😉 Part of me wants it to be an actual flash back to EF & the other part wants it to be part of Emma’s magical training lol
Just saw this on FB & though I’d share it here too-
People think a soul mate is your perfect fit, and that’s what everyone wants. But a true soul mate is a mirror, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life.” (Elizabeth Gilbert)
Hook will definitely be instrumental in helping Emma face the Wicked Witch and helping Emma accept parts of herself — accept the magic that she has and using it in a ways that she needs to in order to protect everyone.” (Jennifer Morrison)https://www.facebook.com/groups/752232061471185/ (somewhere in there lol)
More from the article because I just started looking it over:
It’s not unlikely that for that to have happened, Hook may have had to give up “The Jolly Roger”, which has been his home for over 300 years. This selfless act would once again reaffirm his commitment and sincere love for Emma, and that he’d gladly sacrifice everything for her. As for the precious memory potion, maybe it was part of the trade.
I remember, I had a theory about this two weeks ago.
Lol … too right. that article does sound like it was written by a CS shipper. II don’t think I was this hurried for a Sunday since the break was ending. yeah almost there.
Way to keep things upbeat in here guys! We have a lot of exciting stuff going on, even if we are being attacked/blamed for everything. Guess it’s easier to blame anything/anyone else than say “Maybe I was wrong” and look to figure out why. Tired of hearing how everything is fanservice and OOC when we’ve called a lot of it from the start, but whatever helps them I guess. It’s just frustrating and this week has been dreadful but I suppose that’s to be expected.Thank goodness for our safe haven so we can vent sometimes!
I don’t believe for a second that everyone will be miserable forever. That’s the beauty of things like CS & OQ who have both lost loves but are finding they don’t have to be alone. That IS hopeful! We’re in the middle of the story still. Have a little faith for the characters we have left! Can’t stand the idea that none of them can ever be happy now. It’s just way too depressing and goes against everything we’ve seen.
ON TO CS! (Hoping to just focus on this in the future. Tired of the drama and negative stuff affecting everything else! I just want to enjoy my ship!)
Lots of awesome stuff to look forward to!
This ep is written by the same guy who wrote 1×13. Can’t wait to see all the parallels! Killian will definitely be hitting a few of the highlights of Snowing’s journey from “Not a day will go by…” to attempted TLK and eventually *FC* proven TL. Can’t wait to see him helping Ariel save Eric and find a renewed sense of purpose and drive to go get Emma! Hoping Ariel or Eric helps him somehow in the process like Abigail did with Charming.
Further thoughts on the Ariel/Eric stuff – would be a neat parallel if Eric were not only “trapped” on the JR but also somehow turned to stone (whether that’s present day or flashback not sure since I’m not convinced Blackbeard could do much. I only say this because Frederick was turned to gold and because in The Little Mermaid, Ariel encounters a statue of Eric. So it would be a parallel as well as a nod.
Magic lessons! Fully expect this to come back around to save Killian if not this episode then soonish. I definitely think Knight!Killian could be a part of it and it would be Emma’s turn to parallel Charming since he faced Siren!Snow in 1×13. I also thought perhaps that could be from a dream sequence but training is a possibility. We’ll see! Can’t wait to see what causes him to remove the mask!
Killian is watching Henry for at least a bit according to Emma, so not sure when Snowing takes over (pretty sure this is the episode with Henry driving the truck too) or why. Curious to see what happens though! LOVE that she asked Killian again AND said that he’s good with Henry and that Henry likes him! So glad they’re getting along. Killian treats him like a person rather than a kid and that helps a lot. CaptainCobra bonding is good for both of them for sure.
ZELENA: Step away from Killian! He was very emotional in that scene it seemed and I’m not sure if anybody else is nearby or not. Parallel wish – Zelena pretends to be Emma and goes to see him on the docks but he recognizes that it’s not her and she poofs back into herself before doing whatever to him. Regardless of how she ends up there, I have a feeling he’ll get emotional and try to lash out at her to stop her like he’s done in the past with others. She killed someone he cares about and others are in danger because of her so if he has a shot, he’ll at least try (and of course lose his sword in the process. =/) Hoping that whatever causes them to be there, that Emma shows up quickly to help. Bonus points if she FEELS that he’s in trouble, hopefully with Charming nearby so he “gets it” and they rush to the dock to save him, even if she’s not ready to admit what happened, leaving him clueless but grateful she showed up. I could see this happening at any point though really and we have a few question-mark eps before the season is over. We’ve been paralleling S1 Henry a lot and she wasn’t forced to truly confront her feelings until the end of the season so we’ll see. Love that Regina pointed out yet again that Hook has feelings for her though.
So overall no idea what else might be in store for us since we know a lot already, but I am really hoping Emma finds out answers this episode too. Hidden secrets has been holding her back I’m sure, and she needs to learn about his home being gone (and what better time to do that than in the episode about the Jolly Roger?) They’ve been saying all along that Emma will be making a choice about her future and finding her way “home” and Killian has now literally lost his home but doesn’t care because his home is Emma and it’s beautiful! Now we just need her to learn that! Thinking she will this episode though.
So I am cautiously optimistic about this episode. It seems really great already and I can’t wait to see how everything plays out. Emma will have to face her feelings eventually. Love that even at the end of last episode, Hook is pushing for Henry to get his memories back. I’m 99.99999% sure that Killian can leave SB and go with them to NY if he wanted to. If Emma is sure that Henry won’t get his memories back / is better off without them cause he was happy before, Killian could go with them (especially since he’s in good with Henry now. SO GLAD their bonding wasn’t about Emma though). But instead of just rushing off with this little family unit, he’s encouraging her to tell him everything. To get him to remember, to make sure he knows his father. After that there’s no way Henry would want to go anywhere, and Emma could stay with her family that she never wanted to be separated from in the first place. But right now she’s holding everyone at arm’s length because she feels like in order to do the best for Henry, she has to take him away again.
Killian caught up with her in NY. He didn’t have to bring her back but it was the right thing to do for her family. He wanted her to remember everything, not just him, and he could have easily just said he’d stay in NY for them to be together if she’d give him a chance or something but what is he doing? Fighting to help her save her family. Convincing her to tell Henry the truth so he’ll remember his father. I LOVE THAT KILLIAN IS DOING THIS.
It’s like when he didn’t take Pan’s deal to get off the island with Emma. She’s a package deal and whether she likes it or not, the package deal comes with more than just Henry. She’s got a town full of people who love her and are family she keeps getting separated from. Killian would have no competition for Emma and Henry’s time and affection if he just followed them to NY. Nobody there to try to time-share Henry, or want to spend time with Emma to make up for so much lost time, but he’s BEGGING HER TO TELL HENRY which ultimately = staying and is the right thing to do overall. Just like when it would have been easy to let Charming die (especially since Charming didn’t like him at the time and didn’t want him near Emma) and nobody would have been the wiser and he’d have Protective!Daddy!Charming out of his way to Emma, but he didn’t take that route. He’s doing things the RIGHT WAY and I love seeing that.
Emma brings out the good in him. I really would not be surprised if by the end of the season he really is back to being Killian. He’ll always have a little Hook flair to him, and it’s the mask he hides behind, but he’s becoming more and more the good man he used to be.
Not sure what to make of the season finale stuff other than the costume department is trying to make us all faint with the gorgeous Darcy-esque costume he’s wearing but it does appear like he has two hands which depending on which theory you go for makes sense. I would really love it if Rumple gave him back his hand as it would be a sign they finally made peace and put it behind them 110%. With Emma learning magic, by season’s end she could literally and figuratively make Killian whole again. How beautiful is that?!? Also we would have called it allll the way back in The Doctor! I could totally see the promo being something like “no more Captain Hook” and then have him just be Killian full-time then to most people anyway. I think he’s enjoyed hearing it lately too. He relies on the Hook as part of his identity but again, it’s the mask he wears. Can’t wait to see what happens with all of this! He’s already being called Killian a lot and wearing the fake-hand more and more.
Speaking of mask….KNIGHT!KILLIAN *swoon* – I don’t care if this is one of her dreams, or part of her training. I’ll take our lovable scoundrel anyway we can get him but this is a nice change, though likely only for a short scene. Bonus points if Emma enjoys seeing him as a knight/it makes her view him differently. She keeps trying to pigeon-hole him as a pirate but I really think the version of “knight in shining armor” that Emma needs, other than her father, is her pirate. 😉 Also ….NURSERY DOLLS. Her literal knight in shining armor might just be the navy lieutenat cause let’s face it….Emma’s not exactly a typical princess to begin with, right? Massive swooning is sure to comment the rest of this season with Killian’s wardrobe swaps for sure. Not that I don’t love the leather… 😉 (Though I’d also love it if he changed and started wearing jeans and plaid too lol)
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
The topic ‘The Captain Swan thread!’ is closed to new replies.