- This topic has 12,956 replies, 132 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Oooohh I was reading a CS fic and in it Hook thought about how TLK is supposed to break any curse but how he tried TLK once before and it didn’t work. Do you think that will come up at all in the actual show? I think it would be good to revisit that and maybe the Charmings tell him it doesn’t work when memories are lost. There hasn’t been any mention of it at all about him trying TLK despite the fact that Emma would obviously remember that he tried.
I hope they do revisit it because that failed TLK has been such a bone of contention in the fandom to the point that I’m still seeing comments on FB and tumblr on how it’s been proven that Hook and Emma are not TL. I want it cleared up once and for all so its not shoved back in our faces when anyone brings up Neal.
[adrotate group="5"]It’s up to KJ to be our outside ambassador it seems! I know it’ll calm down, I just hope it does before more people get upset/hurt. We’ll see.
Killian Jones is a do-gooder stick in the mud. Captain Hook is selfish and revenge-obsessed. The true person that is emerging has qualities from each side and I think Colin is doing a good job showing the two personas blend. Killian and Hook are one dimensional, but this new person is fascinating and what draws me to his/this storyline.
And he’s gonna have to tell Emma about the curse soon – once our girl gets something in her head she doesn’t let go and she is FINALLY letting herself acknowlege long-brewing emotions. Our pirate had better be ready!
Oooohh I was reading a CS fic and in it Hook thought about how TLK is supposed to break any curse but how he tried TLK once before and it didn’t work. Do you think that will come up at all in the actual show? I think it would be good to revisit that and maybe the Charmings tell him it doesn’t work when memories are lost. There hasn’t been any mention of it at all about him trying TLK despite the fact that Emma would obviously remember that he tried.
I hope they do revisit it because that failed TLK has been such a bone of contention in the fandom to the point that I’m still seeing comments on FB and tumblr on how it’s been proven that Hook and Emma are not TL. I want it cleared up once and for all so its not shoved back in our faces when anyone brings up Neal.
Yes, this was why I was thinking. It bugs me that some people have selective memory with regards to TLK and memory loss. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ignored it in the show though because there are a number of things they never address that they probably should. I suppose it won’t matter if its discussed if we get a confirmed TLK.
Emma holding Killian’s wrist in the promo! Would have been better w/o the hook contraption covering it but I think it could still be meaningful that she happens to be on that side specifically. I wouldn’t be surprised if Regina tells them they all have to hold hands and Killian/Emma have one of their unspoken convos… or it could be nothing. My track record with theories is pretty bad lol
lumee23 wrote:
Oooohh I was reading a CS fic and in it Hook thought about how TLK is supposed to break any curse but how he tried TLK once before and it didn’t work. Do you think that will come up at all in the actual show? I think it would be good to revisit that and maybe the Charmings tell him it doesn’t work when memories are lost. There hasn’t been any mention of it at all about him trying TLK despite the fact that Emma would obviously remember that he tried.I hope they do revisit it because that failed TLK has been such a bone of contention in the fandom to the point that I’m still seeing comments on FB and tumblr on how it’s been proven that Hook and Emma are not TL. I want it cleared up once and for all so its not shoved back in our faces when anyone brings up Neal.
Yes, this was why I was thinking. It bugs me that some people have selective memory with regards to TLK and memory loss. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ignored it in the show though because there are a number of things they never address that they probably should. I suppose it won’t matter if its discussed if we get a confirmed TLK.
@natalieireneann not at all. If one has lost memory of other, for example.
— Jane Espenson (@JaneEspenson) December 16, 2013
Selective memory, indeed. Jane Espenson even confirmed this that TLK doesn’t work with memory loss. But just because it doesn’t work, doesn’t mean it’s not true love.
I mean, we’ve seen this before the show. It happened with Snow and it happened with Belle. In both cases, TLK did not work. It worked the second time with Snow because Charming took her advice, but Belle freaked out when Rumple kissed her in the hospital.
Oooohh I was reading a CS fic and in it Hook thought about how TLK is supposed to break any curse but how he tried TLK once before and it didn’t work. Do you think that will come up at all in the actual show? I think it would be good to revisit that and maybe the Charmings tell him it doesn’t work when memories are lost. There hasn’t been any mention of it at all about him trying TLK despite the fact that Emma would obviously remember that he tried.
I have to admit I have a bit of a head canon about this. Actually several different versions of head canons. This is where the “Love is strength” comes back into play for me. I don’t think the WW can steal Emma’s magic via Killy’s lips because love is strength so I think the power of TLK would trump Greenie’s kissing curse.
So I think poor Killy will have angst over this for awhile and then Emma will be like “No problem, pucker up – TLK and all remember?” In which case Killian will be shocked 1) because she actually loves him at all and 2) because he will discover why TLK didn’t work this first time. OR Something will happen and they will decide to go ahead and kiss anyway – like if they both think they are going to die or something – and they are BOTH taken by surprise that the kissing curse doesn’t work and that their kiss is TLK. Not really surprised so much that they are TL but more surprised by the fact that their TLK was more powerful than the kissing curse because Emma’s love is strength.
I’m really hoping it’s something like that, especially now that we know that Killy saw that Cora wasn’t able to rip Emma’s heart out. Here’s why:
We know that the most traumatic thing Killian has seen was when Rumple ripped Milah’s heart out and crushed in front of him. She died in his arms and there was nothing he could do. He also has deep guilt over his relationship with Bae, he is trying to honor Bae by watching over Henry and telling him about his father, but he also loves Henry because he is Emma’s son. I firmly believe that we have been given a few hints and seen a few things now that show us that Emma uses her love for and thoughts of Killian as the stimulus for her strongest powers. The WW has now cursed Killian’s love and by extension, threatened both Emma and Henry. This is basically a complete repeat of history. With both Milah and Bae Killian was left feeling helpless, guilty, and empty. What Killian NEEDS now is to know that HE is Emma’s strength. He needs to know that it doesn’t matter if the WW has cursed his love for Emma because THEIR love is strength. Because she relies on HIM, her magic can overcome any curse placed on his love because just like when Cora was unable to rip Emma’s heart out – the WW won’t be able to take her power away because it is grounded in THEIR love. Killian NEEDS to know this. I think this is what will help him overcome his self-loathing. He knows he loves Emma but so far he doesn’t think TLK worked. People talk about Snowing “being” TL. Emma and Killian don’t realize that they ARE TL. Killian IS TL. The odd thing is until this last episode I was convinced that Emma was the one who was going to be the one dragging her feet to admitting she loves Killian but now I have the feeling that Emma is the one who is going to recognize a whole lot faster that they are TL and I think she is going to have to convince Killian that he is worthy of her love. The only way I think she can do that is for him to realize that she thinks of him to boost her powers.
Also having to say something about Emma holding Killian’s hook/wrist in the promo. All those guilty of reading CS fanfic where Killian is ashamed of having Emma touch his naked wrist/stump raise your hand!!! This is great!! I so hope that my theory on this is not wrong (I’ve been wrong about everything lately). We just had self-loathing Killian episode and now we are going to have Killian kind of pulling away from Emma because he doesn’t know what to do about the kissing curse while at the same time Emma has decided she wants Killian. So the tables are now turned and Emma is going after HIM. But poor Killian isn’t going to know what to do and it is going to kill us. We are going to get all the stuff we wanted but not how we wanted it. We got her calling him “Killian” as he was leaving her apartment and couldn’t even react to it to the way we knew he wanted to. Now we are going to have Emma trying to show him that she loves and accepts ALL of him by holding his wrist/hook and poor Killian is going to be anguished!! She is going to be trying to send him one of their unspoken messages as she does it and I think he is going to try to act like he doesn’t even care but it is going to KILL him. I can’t wait to see that scene because if there is anyone who can pull off the 16 different emotions that are going through Killian’s mind in one close-up it is Colin!!
Someone help!!!
Where is this JMo interview I am seeing clips of all over tumblr where she says Emma is in love with Hook, admits there is something weirdly sexy about the hook, and calls Hook hot????
I’m DYING to see this!
I MUST see this!!!!
Check out this link of JMo interview and she talks about Hook!! Best interview ever!!
http://m.vh1.com/videos/video.rbml?id=mgid:uma:video:vh1.com:1032088
The being sent to page 2 instead of 1 happens because this thread has reached over 900 pages. It did the same with the SF thread. It’s normal. Also I’d like to mention how friendly this thread is at the moment, even to a non-diehard CS shipper.
I liked the last Hook centric more than Good Form, despite it having no Rumple and very little Belle. Hook has grown on me as a character. The actual flirting bit wasn’t that bad within the context of the episode. I loved Hook fighting for the Jolly Roger.
Here’s a thought though, why doesn’t Regina put the kiss curse temporarily on Belle (with Belle’s consent) then have Belle kiss Rumple thus taking him out of the equation in the fight with Zelena?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
The topic ‘The Captain Swan thread!’ is closed to new replies.