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April 16, 2014 at 6:53 pm #261933
surayya
ParticipantCheating at dice and driving are useful skills and all, but I’d like to know who you all think Henry would go to for advice on girls, David or Killian? I personally can’t decide between the two.
ATM, I’d say Killian- he has no idea Charming is really his Grandfather & I think see’s him as boring (outside of letting him drive that one time). If he had his memories, I’d be inclined to say Charming over Killian, as they have already had a years bonding, which started off with him living with David while Snow & Emma where stuck in FTL.
The next thing we need to see is how he & Robin get on- I think he’ll love Robin, who wouldnt want to be taught how to use a high powered cross bow 😉
[adrotate group="5"]April 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm #261936surayya
ParticipantPlus he can teach Henry to smoulder.
Those poor little girls won’t stand a chance
LOL- no they wont 🙂
Cheating at dice and driving are useful skills and all, but I’d like to know who you all think Henry would go to for advice on girls, David or Killian? I personally can’t decide between the two.
I would think Henry would go to Hook. Except for the driving lessons Henry thinks the Charmings are boring. Plus I’m sure Henry can see that Hook and his mom practically live in the same physical 4 foot square… they share the same breath. if anyone can get his mom doing stuff like that MUST have some charm and way with the ladies. on a sidenote I would love Henry to ask his mom if Killian is the reason she turned Walsh down. Henry is pretty observant and I’m sure he can see the way the two of them are around each other. Killian shows up and Walsh got the boot.
I love to see that as well 😉
April 16, 2014 at 7:04 pm #261937surayya
Participantso I was thinking that Emma really needs to tell Henry what’s what. I just realized that Walsh is in town. What is keeping him ( Walsh – not Monkey Man ) from going up to Henry saying that he followed Emma because he loves her and cannot let her go. That he wants Henry to help him get flowers and pick a romantic restaurant etc … then Henry knap him!
Except I think Emma thinks Walsh s dead- she saw him turn to smoke after she batted him of the roof. So I doubt she even knows he’s alive- is he still alive?
April 16, 2014 at 7:11 pm #261940jenven
Participantsurayya wrote:
callmeLola wrote:Question: why do they even bother putting a shirt on Hook? I know right- I’m hoping we eventually get a reverse scene of Killy & Emma in bed, but her parents walk in on them- time for them to have Emma “provide them a few traumatic parenthood experiences” lol Fingers crossed that they’ll actually go there
I would love to see this. Especially MM face when she finds her daughter in bed with Captain Hook and her eyes bugging out when she realizes he still has said Hook on. OMG LOL
April 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm #261942surayya
Participantsurayya wrote:
callmeLola wrote:Question: why do they even bother putting a shirt on Hook? I know right- I’m hoping we eventually get a reverse scene of Killy & Emma in bed, but her parents walk in on them- time for them to have Emma “provide them a few traumatic parenthood experiences” lol Fingers crossed that they’ll actually go there
I would love to see this. Especially MM face when she finds her daughter in bed with Captain Hook and her eyes bugging out when she realizes he still has said Hook on. OMG LOL
Bahahahahahaha- now that would be AWESOME! & Charming saying “it isnt impressive how she can still give us traumatic parenthood experiences at this stage in the game!” LOL :p
It’s the whole hook thing that would really sell that- esp after JMo saying theres something sexy about the hook LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
April 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm #261961ellemo78
ParticipantYou have to listen to this song!! I have no idea how to embed songs and my ipad doesn’t let me link but it’s called: Redeemed by Big Daddy Weave I used to think of it as Rumple’s song but after this last episode I swear it could be Killian’s theme song! It even talks about how he has a new name and is going home. Gah!! It’s amazing! I can’t listen to it without thinking of Killian now. I listened to it on repeat all the way home from taking my son to school. Please listen to it. And if anyone is talented with videos – make a CS video to it!! Best part of the song: “Because I don’t have to be the old man inside of me, ’cause his day is long dead and gone. Because I’ve got a new name, a new life, I’m not the same. And a HOPE that will carry me HOME. I am redeemed, you set me free.”
Very emotional!
Speaking of songs, I came across this little gem yesterday, it’s cute and I thought quite apt.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
April 16, 2014 at 9:12 pm #261968killianhookfan
ParticipantOh, yeah! I totally forgot that Henry also has Robin Hood to go to for girl advice as well.
Unfortunately for Henry any girl he EVER brings home is going to be thinking NOTHING but “All the men in your family are HOT!!”
Like seriously, can you even imagine? “Alice I would like you to meet my step fathers Killian and Robin, and my grandfathers Charming and Rumple.”
*Alice wipes the drool from her chin*
April 16, 2014 at 9:19 pm #261970Jenna_B
Participant@POM – I see where you’re coming from…but the big thing with Captain Cobra is that Hook and Henry are bonding because of Neal, and not because of Emma. This concept is integral to the intertwining relationships between the three. Because there is so much more going on than just ‘you’re not my father’ or ‘you’re in love with my mother,’ I think though those reactions might be typical for an average 12 year old, Henry is anything but your average 12 year old.
Hook is not taking Henry as a favor to Emma, he’s doing it because it helps Hook come to terms with Bae, and it allows Henry to learn about Neal as a kid. Henry was pretty go-with-the-flow with Hook until Hook explained that Neal lost his father when he was Henry’s age. Neal is central to Hook and Henry’s relationship, not Emma. And Henry is extremely perceptive. He knows something’s going on. Hook acknowledged that, while explaining to Henry that his mother feels it’s for the best right now – Hook managed to support Emma’s wishes while not lying to Henry. Their bond over Neal, and the fact that Hook acknowledges that Henry knows more, memoryless, than anyone else gives him credit for, is why they are bonding so quickly. I think when Henry learns the truth, he’s going to rebel against Emma. Because his relationship with Hook has very little to do with Emma, I don’t think Henry is going to look at Hook in a ‘you’re not my father’ kind of way. Because isn’t trying to be his father. He isn’t trying to take on a paternal role. He needs Henry as much as Henry will need him when Henry learns the truth – and very likely feels betrayed by his mother.
Emma, too, realizes Hook and Henry’s relationship has very little to do with her. And she supports this. Because Hook can do one thing no one else – not Emma, or even Rumple can – tell Henry about his father when Neal was Henry’s age. Tell Henry about Neal’s struggles at that age. Emma, too, knows that Hook is not going to try to replace Neal – in either Henry nor Emma’s lives – because for all three of them, Neal is irreplaceable. So when Henry does learn, and does rebel against her, I think she’s going to lean on Hook to be there for Henry because Henry doesn’t feel he can trust Emma. Completing the circle, I think Hook is going to be essential in helping mother and son re-establish their relationship after what really, is the biggest lie/betrayal they have had to face in their relationship.
April 16, 2014 at 9:20 pm #261971jenven
ParticipantUnfortunately for Henry any girl he EVER brings home is going to be thinking NOTHING but “All the men in your family are HOT!!” Like seriously, can you even imagine? ”Alice I would like you to meet my step fathers Killian and Robin, and my grandfathers Charming and Rumple.” *Alice wipes the drool from her chin*
ha ha ha ha – wiping the tears from my eyes. so true. I can just imagine all those girls coming to call on Henry.
I guess he will get quite the ‘education’ when you have the older girls hitting on him trying to work a family dinner invitation. Speaking of which I wouldnt mind Thanksgiving at that house…
April 16, 2014 at 9:44 pm #261975killianhookfan
ParticipantI honestly don’t think it has anything to do with Killian trying to be Henry’s father and I don’t think Henry will see it that way either.
I’m a stepmom and my stepson was 13 when I married my husband – so somewhat close to Henry’s age. He has always come to ME for girl advice, advice on how to dress, etc. but it has nothing to do with trying to be his mom – it’s actually the opposite. In the case when a step-parent arrives during the pre-teen or teenage years the relationship you have with your stepchild is VERY different than it is if they were a toddler or young child. I have always been more of a close friend who is also a family member to my stepson as opposed to a parent even though I consider him to be my son – if that makes sense? He has a mom so he doesn’t need another one but he is often more comfortable coming to me about personal issues BECAUSE I’m a parental figure but not his actual parent.
I have LOTS of friends who are parents of blended families and I have never come across ANYONE who has had a child use the “you’re not my mom or dad” thing. It is typically the ex-husband or ex-wife that has the problem with the new spouse thinking they are TRYING to replace them as the parent when, honestly, they are just being another adult in their life.
I do have a few friends whose spouses have passed away and who have remarried. They have actually had the easiest time blending their families because there isn’t a jealous ex who could potentially cause a problem and the biological parent can be honored by everyone. Plus the kids don’t have to worry about hurting their biological parent if they seem to like their stepparent too much. It’s okay to accept the new spouse as their parent if they want to. But again – it typically depends on the age of the child.
I don’t really see Henry having a problem with Killian though. I don’t recall him ever saying that he wanted Emma and Neal to get back together (but I could be wrong) and he only knew Neal for about 6 seconds so it’s not like he had formed a life long parental bond with him. It looks like this kid is probably going to end up with 2 “father figures” in his life – both Killian and Robin. Not to mention one of his grandfathers is actually the same age as both the other men. He’s got potential father figures all over the place!
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