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April 24, 2014 at 9:38 pm #263680
surayya
ParticipantDo you think Santa would bring me one of those for Christmas?
I dont know. If he does though- I want one as well 😉
[adrotate group="5"]April 24, 2014 at 9:41 pm #263682surayya
Participant*sniggers* This is kinda awesome- despite not being CS 😉






http://katherineswan.tumblr.com/post/83749692729/this-week-on-the-bachelorette
April 25, 2014 at 12:33 am #263704sweetgrass
ParticipantHey everyone,
I am a Nielsen family for sweeps week. I’ll definitely be watching OUAT, which I always would anyway, but it’s nice to know I will be helping with the ratings.
I really hope that the Zelena doesn’t kidnap Henry from Hook. I am tired of Hook being the whipping boy. Let him have some wins. I hope it is on someone else’s watch. I also want Hook to tell Emma the truth. He needs to let her know what is going on.
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
April 25, 2014 at 3:46 am #263708surayya
ParticipantI also want Hook to tell Emma the truth. He needs to let her know what is going on.
I’ve kind of backed up a little in he “should” tell her as “she needs” to know.
I agree to a certain extent, but we have to remember WW told him IF he TOLD Emma, she was going to kill Henry- straight up. So he really is stuck between a rock & a hard place. I think at this point he is hoping Emma will be strong enough, quick enough, for her & Regina to take down WW Before it comes to him having to make a choice between saving the child he’s grown to care for (whom happens to be the son of 2 people he respects & the women he deeply loves) at the expense of taking an essential part of the women he loves away, or saving that part of the women he loves & knowingly risking/endangering her only child being murdered by a sicko on a power trip- either way in his mind it’s down to him who dies. As far as Everyone knows- Emma is NOT strong enough YET to take down WW, so in Hook’s mind, telling Emma wont just be putting Henry directly (& her other family & friends) in danger, but will also result in Emma doing something rash & getting hurt/killed anyway. It really is no win.
I just think in this instance it is as much- if not more Hook’s choice on what to do (tell her or not)- he’s the one that’s been cursed, he’s the one who has to decide who lives & dies- so it should be his choice on whether or not he takes the risk telling Emma & risking Henry’s life. I mean it swings both ways- he’s damned in many peoples eyes if he doesnt tell (he’s withholding info related to her & Henry) & he’s damned in the rest if he does (he’s willingly putting her family at risk & worse having her son be the instant target for WWs wrath/ murder promise).
For me it comes down to what would Emma really want here- to be in the know at the expense of Henry’s life, Or would she rather Hook play for time in the hopes she gets strong enough that the threat to Henry is reduced or eliminated all together & THEN tell her? I mean once Hook “tells” her, he cant take it back- Henry goes from having his life “threatened” to being an “actual target” for death- that distinction wont be lost on Killian at all & I think Emma would throw 8 types of fit if Killian put a death warrant out on her son by “telling her”, before he “really” needed to. I cant see Emma telling Snow her child was in danger if the shoe was on the other foot. TBH think she’d do Exactly what Killy is doing now- shut up about it & hope the situation changes in their favor, so she can ‘safely’ tell.
April 25, 2014 at 5:44 am #263712MysteryKat25
ParticipantJust found this gifset on tumblr & it really struck me so wanted to share! Gifs aren’t mine nor is the gifset – just my take on each scenario! I reblogged the original. (Edited to add – I reblogged the original & then did a separate meta with a link back to it so as not to hijack it. Same thing as here though.)
Emma has either known of and/or actually seen all of these guys alone at Granny’s & has a different reaction in each case.

Graham – she declines when she thinks he flirting by returning the cocoa (which was actually sent by Henry) & is not amused because she’s “not here to flirt”; so basically she thinks he’s offering her a drink, she declines
August – she doesn’t trust and is highly suspicious of but finally sits down to talk to in order to get information because she knows he was hanging around Henry; he asks her to share a drink & she wants to decline but uses it as a bargaining chip
Neal – she knows he will be there and doesn’t show up though almost gets dragged there by Charming after asking him if he’s trying to keep her “away from Hook”; he wants a date and leaves it up in the air with show or no show and she chooses not to show up, knowing what that would look/feel like cause she’s been there
Killian – she not only sends him her drink of choice (a reversal of him always offering her rum) but actively tries to get him to lighten up, is “open and playful” (Jane’s words), and is herself (and smiling/giggling to boot!); she’s there spending time alone with him embracing her magic and trying to cheer him up and is actually sending HIM a drink instead of declining/only going along for information/outright not showing up.
Basically we’ve seen her in many situations where a drink is offered to her and she usually turns it down before and then eventually welcomes it (but has taken MANY from/with Killian at this point), and now we have seen all of these men sitting alone at Granny’s & how she reacted to each of them (hint – one of these is not like the others…)
PS: I love how, after so many times that he’s tried to cheer her up with his favorite drink, she’s now returning the favor with hers!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
April 25, 2014 at 8:00 am #263714killianhookfan
ParticipantI agree that Hook is really in a tough position when it comes to telling Emma and I actually think it makes sense that he hasn’t told her.
Right before Neal died, Hook grabbed him and hugged him and you could tell from their reconciliation scene that he regretted how things ended with them when Bae was just a boy on his ship. Then you have the scene where Hook asks Emma if he can take Henry out to talk to him about Bae after the funeral because it will help BOTH of them death with Neal’s DEATH, now you have the WW threatening to kill Henry if Hook tells Emma about his curse. Hook has immense guilt over what happened with Bae and I think he sees the opportunity to be there for his son as a way to continue to make amends for that even after Bae has died. So forget about his need to always be honest with Emma – I think much of his motivation in this situation is the fact that he once turned Bae over to Peter Pan and has lived with the guilt of doing that from the second he did it – he is not about do something that is going to cause him to basically make the exact same mistake with Henry by basically turning him over to the WW. Yes it makes things much more complicated because he loves Emma and wants to be honest with her and he ALREADY has things that he is keeping from her so this is just making it worse. But I think A and E want us to understand that Hook isn’t just “accepting” Henry because he is Emma’s son but that he has his own reason’s for wanting to be a father to him that are completely separate from his love for Emma. Because of his relationship with Bae I think Hook would step up to be father figure in Henry’s life even if he DIDN’T have any kind of romantic relationship with Emma – I think he truly sees it as his responsibility to be a father figure and protector of Henry because that’s what he really WANTED to be to Bae and that’s how he feels he can honor Bae’s memory. The fact that he loves Emma only makes that desire stronger.
So I think there are really two issues – he’s not going to tell her because he isn’t going to take any chances with Henry, and he isn’t going to kiss her because he doesn’t want to take away Emma’s magic.
Now when Greenie goes and ups the game and actually takes and threatens Henry, all of that will change because BOTH Emma and Hook would choose Henry over magic. And like I’ve said before I think we are going to see two “parents” working together to save their son when that happens. I do think we are likely to get a TLK that will break Hook’s kissing curse and break everyone’s memory curse at the same time – and which will also shock the heck out of at least Hook because he doesn’t think he is Emma’s TL. The only situation I could see Emma getting “mad” at Hook for not telling her would be if she had already been honest enough with herself to recognize that she is in love with him so the TLK would have broken the kissing curse all along – in which case the scene will become more of a comedy because there is no way Hook is going to let her get away with knowing she loved him but never doing anything about it – it will be Captain Innuendo/married couple arguing comedy to break the tension. The other scenario I can see going down would be if Emma finds out that the WW captured and threatened Hook and she somehow gets Hook to tell her what is going on that because of that. That would make Emma an ultra ticked off Savior because now Greenie has threatened her son AND her pirate and that isn’t going to sit very well with her. Or, and this is what I’m kind of hoping happens, Greenie takes Henry and Hook has to go tell Emma that she got him feeling like crap because he promised her Henry would always be safe with him. Hook tells her why the WW took Henry and they all run to go save him. When they get to the WW and Henry Greenie makes sure Emma understands the deal but then to humiliate Hook she tells Emma everything he has been keeping from her about his missing year that he is ashamed of. Emma, though, is smart enough to recognize that the only reason Hook would keep ANY of this from her is because he wants her to think if him as a man of honor and not a pirate anymore and that he was trying to protect Henry and trying to protect her magic (cue Colin’s heartbreaking, dejected puppy dog eyes). So when Emma realizes all of that Greenie’s plan backfires because Emma is finally able to fully admit to herself that she loves Hook and WILLINGLY kisses the holy heck out of him to show him that she doesn’t care about anything that he did before because she loves ALL of him – even the dark pirate side. And THAT ends up being the TLK that breaks his kissing curse and brings back everyone’s memory and then Emma can take on the WW with even STRONGER magic than she has had yet because we all know that her magic is strongest when she is with Hook.
And then there is great rejoicing and merriment across the CS fandom!!!
April 25, 2014 at 8:34 am #263717surayya
ParticipantAgreed @rumplegoldfan, Glad I’m not the only one 🙂
And then there is great rejoicing and merriment across the CS fandom!!!
Then cue Season finale & A&E deciding 2eps of CS rejoicing is more than enough, throwing our feelings under a bus, followed by a freight train, followed by a steam roller before sweeping them up & loading them onto the Kingda Ka roller coaster for a few rounds …. again lol :p
April 25, 2014 at 8:55 am #263722callmeLola
Participant@rumplegoldfan
So when Emma realizes all of that Greenie’s plan backfires because Emma is finally able to fully admit to herself that she loves Hook and WILLINGLY kisses the holy heck out of him to show him that she doesn’t care about anything that he did before because she loves ALL of him – even the dark pirate side. And THAT ends up being the TLK that breaks his kissing curse and brings back everyone’s memory and then Emma can take on the WW with even STRONGER magic than she has had yet because we all know that her magic is strongest when she is with Hook.
And then there is great rejoicing and merriment across the CS fandom!!![/quote]I LOVE THIS POST!!!!!!
April 25, 2014 at 9:00 am #263723callmeLola
ParticipantDo you think Santa would bring me one of those for Christmas?
I dont know. If he does though- I want one as well 😉
Can we time share him?
April 25, 2014 at 10:58 am #263740obisgirl
ParticipantHow I want the TLK to go…
“Emma…you can’t.”
“Killian, look at me,” she said as she reaches up to cradle his head in her hands. “You have to trust me.”
“You can’t lose your magic, Swan…it’s a part of you.”
“Henry is a part of me…he’s what matters most, Killian. We have to do this.”
Killian swallowed the lump in his throat as he glanced over and locked eyes with Henry, who was still in the witch’s arms.
“Aye…I know…I’m sorry, Swan.”
“You have nothing to apologize for,” she said when his eyes came back to hers. “My magic means nothing to me if I don’t have the people I love most in my life. Henry…my parents…”
She took a step closer to him, leaning up until their lips were inches apart. “And you,” she murmured softly before pressing her lips urgently to his.
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