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May 5, 2014 at 1:01 pm #266530
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HATED the Rumbelle stuff- seriously he didnt just lie & cheat on his promise to Belle AGAIN?! & he did it on a friggn marriage proposal?! Ugh! When will Belle get a clue?! Here she is sticking up for herself for a change, then in walks Rumple, whom has spent hundreds of years killing people to get what he wants, has lied & cheated his way out of promises to not only “loved ones”,but to HER before & she goes & say’s ‘I trust you not to go murder the women, who murdered your son- Knowing the only reason she isnt dead now is Regina stopped you from killing her with the dagger’ & hands the dagger over to him….. Really?!?! Is she high?!?!- For someone whom is supposed to be so smart, Belle was all kinds of stupid this episode *sigh* Also WHY Didnt WW turn into the DO given Rumple stabbed her with the DO dagger?!?! Instead she turns to china, shatters, crumbles to dust, then turns into smoke, then a portal…. really?!? Dagger’s got some mad skills it seems- but kinda flies in the face of whom ever is killed with the dagger becomes the DO cannon fact they more than established the last 2 seasons o.O
The person stabbed with dagger doesn’t become the dark one. The only way to become the dark one is to stab the dark one with the dagger and the person who did the stabbing becomes the new dark one.
I think Rumple meant what he said to Belle. I’m convinced after he’d killed Zelena, he swapped the daggers back so Belle now has the real one again. Zelena killed his son and Rumple wasn’t just going to let that go plus she was still a threat to everyone. I could see Rumple feeling guilty about lying to Belle and possibly confessing to her and Belle giving him a piece of her mind for lying. I just hope the writers don’t use this as an excuse to separate them again.
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Keeper of FelixMay 5, 2014 at 2:20 pm #266550ilayda
ParticipantThe person stabbed with dagger doesn’t become the dark one. The only way to become the dark one is to stab the dark one with the dagger and the person who did the stabbing becomes the new dark one.
I think Rumple meant what he said to Belle. I’m convinced after he’d killed Zelena, he swapped the daggers back so Belle now has the real one again. Zelena killed his son and Rumple wasn’t just going to let that go plus she was still a threat to everyone. I could see Rumple feeling guilty about lying to Belle and possibly confessing to her and Belle giving him a piece of her mind for lying. I just hope the writers don’t use this as an excuse to separate them again
I don’t believe they will let go of this matter that easily even though i perfectly understand why Rumple wanted vengence (he has every right to take his revenge) and i was pleased to see he killed Zelena. The problem is that he shouldn’t proposed to give the dagger to Belle after she gave it back to him and he shouldn’t propose to marry her while he was lying to her and if he had think straight he would think that killing Zelena or taking her powers wouldn’t stop her from getting what she wants cause i believe she did consider every possible event and she did something to cast a curse even after she is dead. Based on set photos the wedding will happen (and Belle won’t learn he killed Zelena until that) but i think it will be intrrupted somehow maybe because of the time portal or something or she will learn that Rumple killed Zelena and get frustrated, heartbroken which leads her to leave Rumple at the altar or something. However i think they are the only couple who should get married at the moment
May 5, 2014 at 4:19 pm #266594lumee23
ParticipantLoved this little headcanon fic regarding the finale. Contains spoilers from promos:
May 5, 2014 at 4:46 pm #266607callmeLola
ParticipantMay 5, 2014 at 6:13 pm #266633surayya
ParticipantOh yes had forgotten about that aspect of the DO dagger lol.
However I still dont think that proposing to someone while you are in the middle of tricking/deceiving them is in anyway a good or healthy way to 1) start a back into a relationship again after a separation or 2) a good way to propose marriage to someone whom you are supposed to truly love.
It frustrates me as Rumple is once again making the same old choices & same old mistakes- choosing the “easy way” over the “hard/right way”, so he hasnt really learnt diddly squat from his sons death after all, which means it was kind of in vain (sure he warned them of Zelena, but Rumple is hardly honoring his memory by doing the exact opposite of what Bae would have wanted him to do) & he & Belle will be separated again in short order *sigh*
I dont doubt he was justified in his seeking vengeance at all- shame more of the fandom didnt realise the same about Hook when he wanted vengeance against Rumple for Milah’s murder last season :/ – However it doesnt make it “the right thing to do” either & I dont think at that stage Zelena was a threat at all- she was powerless & stuck in a prison- had she been a threat in anyway, she could/would have defended herself easily, her purpose was thwarted, she had been striped of her powers & was now just an “ordinary” person- I think it’s more WW knew exactly what Rumple would do should she fail in her attempt to enact her curse & his actions alone, actually caused/enacted whatever “backup” curse she had planed, when he murdered her. I think Zelena was smart enough to know should she fail, Regina or Rumple would kill her- which is why she was so keen for them to do so when she failed- either way her curse would be cast.
The show is about choices & IMO for 3seasons now, for the most part, we’ve seen Rumple continue to choose the same old way- the way that keeps him the DO, the way that ends up hurting those about him- I wish the writers would cut him & Belle a break for a change.
May 5, 2014 at 8:10 pm #266650jenven
ParticipantAnyone else missing the quote link?
QUOTING SURAYYA
“When he pointed out telling her would have been Henry’s death sentence, Emma didnt care about that fact, in fact she looked ticked off that he had pointed that fact out & went on to say “his safety is for me to worry about”- so IMO, her anger at Killy not telling her, had/has keeping Henry safe, that’s just a convenient excuse, she was/ is terrified that he took it upon himself to put himself in danger on her & Henry’s behalf- without discussing it with her 1st & THAT is the beyond scary gesture, that has her freaking out
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Thing I find funny about Emma still using this as an excuse… she passed Henry off on a bunch of babysitters while keeping him ignorant of the situation… which was the most dangerous thing. Walsh could have strolled into town with a song and dance and Henry would have hopped right into the car with him and been gone. Plus while Hook was overstepping I can see were desperation and the unsaid authority he had as Henry’s protector / babysitter. I have to give my Nanny a certain amount of trust and authority when it comes to the kids. She is there and I’m not and I’m too far away in an emergency situation. So yes – Hook was so wrong… but Emma needs to stop using it as an excuse. She wants honesty and transparency from everyone and doesn’t give anyone the same respect. Only Hook really gets the whole story and she is only forthcoming as a way to be hurtful. So tell him he screwed up, but stop using it as a bullet point on your list of why SB is the new Sunnydale.
One of you ladies was saying how delusional they are making Emma. They are really doing a good job of showing her spiraling out of control. All these factors are out of her control and she is not handling it well at all. and that link that Callmelola posted was great. The comparison of Regina and Emma and how they are moving toward total opposite points really was great.
Soooo I cannot wait until Hook follows Emma through and she looks so shocked and says ‘you followed me” and he tells her ‘are you surprised.’ of course our girl is going to have some nasty snark and at that point I think Hook should say – Hey I know the lay of the land, its my way or the toll bridge highway. be nice or be quiet. serving as a bucket of cold water in emma’s face they stroll along and have a grand adventure, slowing working towards ep 22 and hopefully our big pay off.
I’ know … now i’m the delusional one.
so i read some people saying that maybe Hook recognized Emma when they tied him to a tree… and i started thinking back to those episodes. lol – on top of the Beanstalk when Emma pulls him back from the trip wire he holds her and tells her ‘about bloody time.’ hahaha. That hook though a day trip was too long to wait for the damsel to throw herself at him. lol – little does he know the ‘long haul’ he is in for.
May 5, 2014 at 8:41 pm #266654ellemo78
Participantso i read some people saying that maybe Hook recognized Emma when they tied him to a tree…
I’m going to be annoying logical. If they are going back to Snow Falls, before Snow and Charming met, I don’t see how past!Hook would recognise Emma. That happened 30 years ago. Emma & Snow in the EF meeting Hook only happened a year or so ago. I believe this will be a past!Hook at the height of his vengeance, fresh from Neverland.
I am a little confused about things. I understand why Zelena wanted Emma’s magic gone. But why couldn’t Z kill Emma as Hook surmised from that little tete-a-tete they had? Was it just b/c Z had been listening to Snow/Charming/Regina’s talking up of Emma being their ‘only hope’? And Z knew only light magic would defeat her? Because as far as I see Z could have easily gone to NY and took Emma out. Emma had no clue what was going on. Without her SB memories she wouldn’t have even known she was magical. Is there something more to it I’m missing? Does this mean Emma does have a bigger purpose?
Actually, Z sent Walsh monkey to look after Emma months before the Charmings worked out they thought Emma was the key. Perhaps I shouldn’t apply logic to this show.
One more small thing, when Hook says sorry to Emma about her losing her magic, I thought he was reluctant to call her ‘love’. It’s such a familiar thing for him to say – he’d said it to Snow the other week. Maybe he was just whispering it. I’ll have to watch it again.
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May 5, 2014 at 11:16 pm #266693surayya
ParticipantOK, so I didnt catch this moment in my 1st or 2nd viewing….but someone did….. & now people are saying/wondering if it is possible that Emma’s CPR did count as TL (kinda) kiss, before/as her magic is taken, as the whoosh ‘rainbow’ circle thing did in fact happen- here’s the gif
May 5, 2014 at 11:27 pm #266698ellemo78
ParticipantNope, not TLK. It wasn’t a kiss, she was breathing life into him. Intentions are very different. I think the circle thingy was his curse going because he felt it was gone when he woke up.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
May 6, 2014 at 12:33 am #266718ellemo78
Participantso i read some people saying that maybe Hook recognized Emma when they tied him to a tree…
Ohhh! I just realised, they mean the other way around. Sorry, my bad 🙂 That Hook while meeting Emma in the EF (under Cora’s dead bodies) would recognise her from his past. Gotcha. That’s a possibility and way too confusing!
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