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I am so excited for next week’s episode. Seems like Emma would be arrested and Hook will try his best not to have her sent to prison again. It very much contrasts Neal’s actions on letting Emma be sent to jail
I am not ok……..
[adrotate group="5"]Nope, not TLK. It wasn’t a kiss, she was breathing life into him. Intentions are very different. I think the circle thingy was his curse going because he felt it was gone when he woke up.
Yeah, I personally feel the same way- she wasnt actually kissing him, so i personally dont consider it as TLK …. Although someone (in another forum) had a point when they said you cant really kiss a dead person either & that the intent is still the same be it the “kiss of life” (aka mouth to mouth) on someone you love/have feeling for or trying to “kiss” your TL alive with a TLK.
So I’m on the fence with it IF it gets used- it is a good catch IMO & I do think A&E ‘could’ go there if they wanted & use the whole “kiss of life” thing easily- I wouldnt be all shocked about it given the circumstances, but I hope they dont- I really want to “see” a special, ‘magical’ ‘OMG! WTH! We are TL’ moment between Killy & Emma- not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam, ‘oh & by the way we are TL, but you kinda missed it on account of being drowned & I didnt really notice it on account of freaking out over loosing you’, because the 2nd situation kind of sucks as a pay off for all the angst!
Although someone (in another forum) had a point when they said you cant really kiss a dead person either & that the intent is still the same be it the “kiss of life” (aka mouth to mouth) on someone you love/have feeling for or trying to “kiss” your TL alive with a TLK.
Yeah, there is that, but Killian wasn’t dead, he was dying which is slightly different, Emma knew she could save him. And taking Snowing’s TLK when he woke her up from the coffin – and tbh it’s been a while since I’ve seen it – was he actually expecting her to wake up? Or was he just kissing her goodbye and the effects of TLK was a nice surprise?
I really want to “see” a special, ‘magical’ ‘OMG! WTH! We are TL’ moment between Killy & Emma- not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam, ‘oh & by the way we are TL, but you kinda missed it on account of being drowned & I didnt really notice it on account of freaking out over loosing you’,
Me too!! 🙂 But if Emma keeps going with the snark, I may have to migrate to the ‘she doesn’t deserve him’ camp.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
LOLOLOLOL! I admit I reacted like this at that point in their convo as well 😉
Hook: “I think it’s because you can see a future here. A happy one…”
Emma: “Let me guess… with you?”
Hook:
CSers:
Yeah, there is that, but Killian wasn’t dead, he was dying which is slightly different, Emma knew she could save him. And taking Snowing’s TLK when he woke her up from the coffin – and tbh it’s been a while since I’ve seen it – was he actually expecting her to wake up? Or was he just kissing her goodbye and the effects of TLK was a nice surprise?
I think their point was that “love/feelings” must be present in the ‘kisser’ & lips simply have to touch, for the “effects” of TLK to work when the other 1/2 is incapacitated- more than actually having to intend on “kissing” someone per say- if you think about it, the point is entirely valid logically, as kissing a dead person isnt really kissing them, it’s just pressing your lips to dead/dying tissue, the same can be argued of unconscious people, as they cant “kiss” back- so it’s simply touching someone else’s lips with your own, however the intent of trying to revive someone you have feelings for by giving them the “kiss of life” & trying to “TLk” someone ‘back’ again, is pretty much the same difference IMO- both situations may or may not work & in both situations one doesnt want to loose the other.
I’m still holding out for a proper “bells & whistles” CS TLK though- soooooo excited for next ep!!!!
*Sigh* Gonna be honest, not loving not having a quoting button & having to manually quote everything in text mode- since quoting in visual mode = a bunch of gibberish, gobbly gook being inserted within the post :/
I do see where you’re coming from in terms of TLK vs Kiss of Life. I get that both instances are just pressing lips to flesh of the unconscious person. As our unconscious person has no-idea who is kissing/resuscitating him, the intent was on definitely on Emma’s behalf. She was giving him mouth-to-mouth, she wasn’t kissing him. I think we’re agreeing on the same thing, that it’s the feeling/intentions but I don’t think Emma had any intention of doing anything else than to push breath into his lungs. I’m sure there were other ways to do it without lips touching lips, but she was panicked and in a hurry. The murkiness of this comes from the how Killian was used to force Emma’s hand. If Zelena put him into a sleeping curse, then it would definitely have to be TLK that wakes him up. But of course a sleeping curse wouldn’t put him in danger.
IMO the other instances of TLK is basically the kisser saying ‘I love you’ without words. And I don’t think Emma was doing that in this case. Although I think she was pretty close to saying it with the ‘come back to me‘.
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
^ I think we are thinking of the same thing, but there’s a miss communication going on somewhere lol 🙂
Remember I’m just agreeing with someone elses point- that TLK doesnt have to be an actual “kiss” as such, it merely requires the lips of 2 people who care about each other (or at least are open to the idea of the other being their TL & accept it as truth), touching for TLK to work- hence it working when one is cursed & unconscious- like Snow was, when a curse kills someone- like it did Henry, when a memory spell is lifted enough for that person to begin to believe the other truly loves them- as was the case with Snowing.
A&E could swing it that TLK did indeed work when Emma did mouth to mouth- since magic was used to drown him, because their lips touched, but that WW factored TLK in & despite it being TLK, the magic trapping curse still took effect.
Like I say, I dont want that to be the case, but having seen the whoosh rainbow thingy that happens when TLK happens- I wouldnt be shocked off my rock if they did ‘cheat’ us out of our epic ‘TLK moment’…. but they wont, they wouldnt do that to us, they’ve been building the CS angst for the last 10eps now, so we should hit pay dirt next week! 🙂
…that TLK doesnt have to be an actual “kiss” as such, it merely requires the lips of 2 people who care about each other (or at least are open to the idea of the other being their TL & accept it as truth), touching for TLK to work…
Ahh I think I’ve found where I disagree 🙂
But I’m with you, I don’t want to be cheated out to the TLK moment either. That’s propbably why I’m so adamant – regardless of rainbow shockwave – that this wasn’t a kiss, true love or not. And even if TLK doesn’t happen next week (I really hope it does) I don’t think I’ll be upset. Long haul. Long. Haul 😉
Lovely thoughts for next week! 😀
If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness
@surayya. I saw that gif of the CPR on tumblr as well which begs the question, did Emma actually lose her magic? The “ring” of light is what we usually see when a curse has been broken was apparent in the gif. Emma says she lost her magic but didn’t even attempt to check. With Emma its always a question of belief so if she believes the magic is gone then it won’t work. In fact, she looked pretty happy in the last scene with Hook when he asked her about it. In her mind if she doesn’t have magic then she’s free of the “saviour” title. Was it TLK? No it was badly done CPR that brought him back because magic didn’t drown him, but maybe TLK did break his curse.
I have one leg up in the optimist band wagon right now but the rest of my body is still clinging to the pessimist go-cart.
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