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The Captain Swan thread!

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  • May 8, 2014 at 7:27 pm #267697
    jenven
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    yeah… i didnt post my sticky yet and hoped into chat.  didnt find it aggressive, but seems the others thought us CS were… so like sore losers they moved onto another show.

    I really want us CS shipper to totally take over chat on Sunday night.  I want a little real time talk about our ship and not have to get pushed out or bow out.  Regardless of a TLK or weddings Sunday is going to be Squeeing left and right and we should celebrate and enjoy it.  I know its way childish but, I seriously want to make them feel like they need to leave the chat for once and see how it feels.

     

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    May 8, 2014 at 7:30 pm #267698
    Killian Jones
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    ^^^ well I’m gonna make sure we all have a link here so we can do just that 🙂 I want us to celebrate our ship this Sunday it’s gonna be great!

    May 8, 2014 at 8:24 pm #267710
    surayya
    Participant

    Now I’ve finally sorted my technical difficulties out lol

    1st off I’m SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THIS MONDAY!!!!!! (WELL SUNDAY FOR YOU GUYS) 😉

    Those Sneak peeks are Awesome!!!!! Love Emma’s reaction to Killy’s compliment 😀 & LOVE that hollywood reporter interview (I was going to post the exact same part of the interview that Jenna_B did lol- that bit had my brain go into Happy, Happy, Happy dance mode lol :p )

    WISH IT WAS MONDAY/SUNDAY NOW! This is going to feel like the longest 3DAYS EVER!

    UGH! Why?!? This forum hates win8, my browser & me- Quote tab wont work for me either- so still have to use manual quote *sigh* 🙁

    yeah… i didnt post my sticky yet and hoped into chat. didnt find it aggressive, but seems the others thought us CS were… so like sore losers they moved onto another show.
    I really want us CS shipper to totally take over chat on Sunday night. I want a little real time talk about our ship and not have to get pushed out or bow out. Regardless of a TLK or weddings Sunday is going to be Squeeing left and right and we should celebrate and enjoy it. I know its way childish but, I seriously want to make them feel like they need to leave the chat for once and see how it feels.

    *sigh* Yeah, I’ve just decided that on this site, I’m not even going into other threads or chat until we take over on Sunday (then the kid gloves come off)- I want to revel in the total excitement of our 2hr CS movie, without being brought down by negative Nelly’s. This is OUR episode & by all thats blue, I am going to darn well enjoy it- SF/NealFire, SQ or whoever, whatever ship people like, be damned. I’m sick of having to rein in MY enjoyment & excitement of the show to just this one thread/facet of the site- where I used to be able to post anywhere during S1 & most of S2, just so others can feel good about themselves & their sunk ship- seriously, enough is enough & as of Sunday thats it. I for one will simply squash (with all out mega, fangirling/ over excitement 😉 ) & or shame any hater/s back into this side of next week if needs must.

    It’s time the same few haters got over their own problems with their sunken ship/s &/or their head cannons, deluded opinions on Hook being evil/what he’s ‘really’ up & Emma not having “feelings” for Killy, A&E have made Hook’s intentions, purposes & motivations PERFECTLY clear, along with the fact that Emma has “feelings” for Killy & that goes for CS as well.

    Neal is dead, CS/Hook haters cant use this site being a “safe haven for SF/Nealfire fans” as an excuse to justify hating on our ship or Hook anymore IMO. Sure they dont have to get on board with us, but they sure as oats dont need to throw bilgewater on us when we try to celebrate or even openly talk about it out of this thread either!

    This site used to be all about respect & tolerance, it’s time we force the issue & force the haters on here to accept we love CS & Hook, no matter what they think & feel about it & that it’s time they pulled their heads in & allowed us to fangirl/ fanboy, get ott excited, squeee, talk & scream about how much we love the direction the show is going in/ our ship/ our pirate & anything else we fancy.

    Sorry for ranting, but the attitude of some on this site is wearing more than thin. I’m done now & back to being excited for Monday!!!!!! 😀 😀 😀

    ^^^ well I’m gonna make sure we all have a link here so we can do just that 🙂 I want us to celebrate our ship this Sunday it’s gonna be great!

    I’m right there with you 🙂

    May 8, 2014 at 8:59 pm #267726
    ellemo78
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    @rumplegoldfan – nice 🙂

    I know a couple people who have married their first loves and are still very happy (my sister being one) But there are A LOT of people I know who don’t even want anything to do with their first ‘loves’, even if they have children together. People change. By the CS-haters’ standards Pride and Prejudice shouldn’t have happened. If you *must* be with your first love Lizzy should be with Wickham and not with Darcy. Lizzy clearly says no to Darcy’s proposal and wanted nothing to do with him. Darcy was there for her, helped out with her family troubles when he didn’t have to. Darcy changed for *her* (well as least stopped hiding his real side) and she grew to love him more than anything.


    @surayya
    – Hear, hear! (including the Monday bit, although I will clawing at my desk, avoiding spoilers until I can get home to watch it 🙂 )

    You pretty much summed up my whole feelings on everything. I have ventured into other threads (only really as a lurker) and I find it quite sad, for them. If the only way you get enjoyment is by tearing at other people’s happiness (sounds familiar?) I feel sorry for them.

    If one is to engage with the primordial forces of darkness, one must expect a little social awkwardness

    May 8, 2014 at 9:02 pm #267728
    Jenna_B
    Participant

    Ok, kids.  You’ve talked me back into joining chat on Sunday!!  Let’s do it!  — But, this is what we’ll do — we’ll enjoy chat and squeeing openly but respectfully.  Let’s make it known that we deserve to get respect we’re giving.

    The last few posts cheered me up.  I was seething until a couple of minutes ago when I read the last few posts on the page.  THIS is what bothers me – and jenven can back me up, we were there at the same time.  I’ve found that one of the most die hard SF fans is actually a great source to get perspective on ‘the other side’ from.  So we started a civil conversation which developed into some pretty good Hook character analysis…CSers, SFers and non-shippers alike (reminds me, I still have to get MP’s thoughts!  Anywho,) then….a few have to ruin it and turn it into a “Hook needs to learn boundaries” conversation.  Why?  WHY??  And this is what got me flat out PISSED OFF – I ask for an example of when exactly Emma told Hook to back off.  When did she say she wasn’t interested?  ONE EXAMPLE.  crickets.  Because there ISN’T one.  Because Emma HASN’T told Hook she’s not interested, or to back off.  The only time she came close was last episode when she was clearly at the end of her rope and lashing out.  And even THEN, she simply said she’s going back to NY – she did NOT tell Hook she wasn’t interested.  If our girl ain’t interested, she’s going to say so.  She has no qualms telling anyone exactly what’s on her mind.  And then of course, it quickly turned into ‘we have to change the subject’.

    Everyone’s go-to argument is it’s not worth having dialogue about Hook or Neal, or CS/SF because no one’s going to change their mind.  But you know what?  Having that dialogue, RATIONALLY, might not change the others’ mind, but it might help people see the other side of the coin and ease the animosity.  As I said, I have asked some of the most die hard SFers questions, genuinely looking for input and opinion, and it actually helped me understand Neal more.  Had these people not been able to have an open conversation about their favorite ship/character, I might like Neal a lot less than I did.  But then there’s the comments made just to make anti-CS/Hook comments, and then can’t handle it when the table gets turned or they’re pressed to back up their comments with canon.  THAT’S what I have a problem with.  THAT’S what ticks me off.  Because if I’m going to run my mouth (fingers?) especially in a non-shipper/character designated thread or in chat, I’m going to be prepared to back it up.

    Rant over.  My other guilty pleasure, Reign, is on, and I am going to enjoy my 2nd favorite ship, Kennash.  Thanks for cheering me up with your posts – I hope I’m not bringing everyone down with mine, I just wanted to get stuff off my mind instead if keeping it bottled up… 🙂

    May 8, 2014 at 9:40 pm #267744
    MysteryKat25
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    Working on a VERY long rant right now (not sure what I’m going to do with it just yet but I am beyond furious) so decided to pop in with pretty graphics instead.

    I guess other stories that they’re blatantly paralleling to CS should have never happened either. Princess Bride for one (and she fell for a pirate who had a fearsome reputation but actually had a heart of gold imagine that! By the way he TOTALLY does the voice in 2×04 which *gasp* aired BEFORE we could have reactions to anything so was clearly always there). And then there’s Star Wars and our favorite “space pirate” Han Solo – guess he’s totally unlovable too, right?

    Totally agree on the crickets comment – there’s a LONG list of how she’s ENCOURAGED his feelings but she’s never shut him down. Walls up? Yes (which he reads right through). Told him no? No. – Have I missed him asking her out a gazillion times or something cause I do not remember a question and response like this… He has never even pushed for a date. She made it crystal clear she had already thanked him before she kissed him and the second she walked away he respected her wishes. The guy could be accused of being like a lovesick puppy but pushy he is not. He builds her up and appreciates her and makes sure she knows she’s loved and believed in. THE HORROR!

    Her remarks lately have been stinging but he hasn’t been forcing her to do anything with him ever. (Unless you count the kiss in NY in which case hey, let’s string up Charming and Rumple too cause they did that to their loves! *headdesk*)

    Saw this gifset on tumblr. A couple (of many) parallels to Han x Leia which makes me happy. The writers blatantly said that Hook “Han Solo’d” back at the end of S2 (and we know SW is their favorite!) and they called JMO their Princess Leia and of COURSE she uses that as her name in the finale! Too bad she didn’t think of hers first or he could have been Han – though that would have been confused with Hans and people would be SURE he was evil, though Charles isn’t much better in my book though it makes for funny graphics I suppose).

    And then we have some other fun stuff! (Trying to deflate my anger from the rant I’m working on still…)

    The BTS pics – lots and lots of COUPLES. S1 we had Snowing and RumBelle moments alone in the finale. S2 we had the shots near the docks of Snowing, RumBelle, and CAPTAINSWAN. S3 BTS promo stills at Granny’s diner? Oh look, it’s Snowing, RumBelle, CAPTAINSWAN, and OutlawQueen! Love it! Also OQ has been added into the full length red TL look club. Last year (goodness knows on what page) we had Snowing, RumBelle, and CS in long red coats etc, and then Regina wore a red dress recently too! And of course we get the beautiful red ballgown for Emma as well! SO reminiscent of Buttercup! Can’t wait to see all those scenes in context and what is said during the DANCE!!! She seemed so HAPPY when he complimented her on the dress to put her at ease. How people are twisting even that is beyond me. He made her feel better about it when she was clearly uncomfortable in it. Old school gentleman charm indeed!

    Would love a link to a happy chat room for the finale! Not even just CS but just want to be able to enjoy it in peace and be allowed to be happy about something without the bitterness and anger of the fandom tearing it apart.

    Anyway, not sure if I’ll post the rant or not (it’s ridiculously long but a lot of it needs to be said at some point) but I do plan to write up my CSF / Jane Austen meta (I’ve been having a Jane Austen kick to get me through this week) so I’ll either link to it or post it here, haven’t decided yet. I may go hide out on tumblr.

    No idea what I’ll do about S4. This place used to be an escape from the wilds but it’s easier to block out in the wilds and not offend friends at least. No idea when the “non-SFers need not apply* posters went up around the chat / site in general but I feel like it’s closing in bigtime. On principal I hate being banished elsewhere but I’m sick of the life-sucking drama and I hate fighting with friends. I’d love it if we COULD chat in peace or at least talk over each other and not get into fights but I’m not sure I ever see that happening. =/

    Pretty sure she wouldn’t have been paralleling MM in S1 though by pleading with Killian to “come back to me” if she didn’t want him in her life in some way, even if it is easier to push him away right now and run away to NY so she doesn’t risk someone else hurting her again. So much easier to walk away first when you have trust issues (and she has massive ones). I expect the finale to show her finally facing some of these for sure. Can’t wait!

    Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

    May 8, 2014 at 10:43 pm #267774
    Bo-Peeps
    Participant

    Ignore the Killjoys. They are only happy when wallowing in the Mausoleum of Neal-Death Denial.

    Many Fan Forum Moons ago, this was a place for a lot of lively live chats/scrumptious graphics and prolific posting. If anyone is feeling creative, they could check it out for beginning a CaptainSwan refuge:

    http://www.yuku.com/

    It could be a lovely, peaceful Squeeee Haven Get-away when the air gets a bit too thick while visiting here.

    ***Always in search of a good flock***

    May 9, 2014 at 12:27 am #267787
    obisgirl
    Participant

    I have a yuku account, mainly to follow my soaps.

    I’ve been reading the last couple of posts and I understand you alls frustration when it comes to the chat. I do feel like it’s gotten better since 3~15 happened and there’s only maybe one or two people who are the problem.

    Not saying who because I don’t want to start anything but I feel like the hate is mostly contained now. If I see something, what I do now is make a post about it on tumblr and avoid posting who said it.

    I do feel it is a bit over dramatic to still be wallowing in grief. I just came back from a wake where a real person died and that’s still surreal. But we knew months in advance that there would be a death and I think the problem with many SF/Neak shippers is that they looked at the death spoiler and thought, if I wrote this show ethic character would I not mind loosing vs. what actually makes sense for the story.

    Back to the chat, I would like to enjoy it again and enjoy those beautiful moments when they happen. I love fangirling with you all but again, I caution you all to be careful with the chat.

    and if need be, the tumblr CS chat is always available.

    May 9, 2014 at 1:11 am #267798
    MysteryKat25
    Participant

    I’m slightly calmer now.

    I’m just really hoping the finale experience isn’t ruined by negativity. It’s tough seeing how much people seem to hate the show now but after a half-season of so much drama and angst, we’re finally close to the big season finale payoff and I hate the thought of that getting ruined like every other episode has.

    Real life loss puts a lot of things in perspective I guess. Dealt with way too much of that lately and going to funerals / planning for one coming up. I’m still emotionally devastated by tv shows but I’m emotionally drained in general and sick of arguing with friends over stupid stuff (and worse, having the same arguments / comments every single week because people think that by our saying something we’re trying to convince them when we’re not. We’re just trying to ENJOY the show in and around the negativity.)

    Kind of hard to have 2 chats going on in the same chat and on principal I resent that CS always seems to get banished elsewhere and are made to feel unwelcome unless we have something to complain about too, but it is what it is. I’m not usually angry until I go in there and told how awful everything is and then I just want to complain about the complaining since a lot refuse to accept that maybe it was always intended and has been set up from the start and they might have been wrong instead of everything being suddenly turned around because of the fans. I guess we just imagined a lot of those bread crumbs along the way. Kinda like taking a random guess at a math problem and getting the right answer?

    Personally I believe A&E are WAY BETTER than that and have left excellent clues but from the way the fandom has been attacking us, it feels like we only got the right answer by “pure dumb luck” in their eyes, or worse, “fanservice” *rolls eyes* – it’s been there from before his episodes aired. I’m sick of hearing it.

    Most episodes I find a way to deal with it but I don’t think that’s a good idea for the upcoming one, so a  CS FRIENDLY area would be nice to go to for sure. The finale looks AMAZING and I refuse to let people who are convinced there’s no hope left for anything destroy it for the rest of us. I categorically refuse. *stomps foot*

    ON TO HAPPY STUFF

    There’s so much exciting stuff going on and I can’t wait for the episode to air! I want to focus on HAPPY things and the finale looks like it should have a lot of awesome callbacks as well as excitement for us *fingers crossed* (It sounds very promising from the teases I’ve seen so far!)

    First time we won’t have been spoiled by early viewings as well so it should be interesting! So many wonderful things I can’t wait to see and I am trying so hard to be positive and then others tear things down again. I don’t need that. Way too many bad days recently that I really need to balance out.

    So glad I’m “invested” in my other shows but they don’t stick with me all week as much as Once does! Goodness knows my shows are beating up on me emotionally right now on top of everything else but I’m trying to stay positive and avoid as much of the negative energy surrounding things right now. I’ve got enough to bring me down without fighting over interpretations of a tv show with friends.

    I’m trying SO HARD to add more positivity & optimism into my life (I’m usually extremely pessimistic), but this fandom is ripping itself apart and destroying something beautiful and I hate when it brings me down with it. Thank goodness we at least get this tiny little corner. That’s something at least.

    *goes back to happy place and continues listening to Gil (Prince Eric) singing from DC Con* (hard to be upset – he’s too adorable)

    We’re closing in on Sunday! It’s going to be EPIC!

    Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

    May 9, 2014 at 2:37 am #267819
    Jenna_B
    Participant

    Ok – to throw some positivity into the party –

     

    One thing I’m loving right now…I have no clue who they’re bringing in as next season’s Big Bad.  I feel like before 3a ended, a lot of us suspected Wizard of Oz/WW was coming in 3b…but I have no clue what they have up their sleeves for our OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED season 4!

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