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May 16, 2013 at 11:56 pm #194960surayyaParticipant
@Hookian wrote:
@Surayya wrote:
Reading between the lines of this interview http://onceuponatime-fans.com/season-2-2/kecks-exclusives-once-upon-a-time-loses-its-little-red-to-cbs It seems the Neverland stuff is a whole new idea, conceived during beginning S2 😯 Could it be what (I think it was) Kat or was it obsgirl, was referring too- in Hook being made a regular early S2 maybe!?
Actually they confirmed multiple times that Hook was supposed to be a main regular from the get go but because of rights had to be placed on the shelf in S1 and saved for S2 but if you watch S1 there are many hints towards Captain Hook. 🙂
I know, but the whole NL plot seems to have been cooked up DURING early S2 NOT S1- they changed their plans on how the show would move forward & that didn’t include Red/Ruby, once NL storyline was locked- So after making her a regular for S2, her story was totally shelved, Snow, Emma brought back to SB sooner than originally planned so they could move on with the new NL arc. That was the point I was making, as someone else had already said something along the lines of Hook becoming a regular early in the season …this could have been why. I firmly believe we’d have had heaps more Hook if Colin hadn’t of broken his leg & maybe we’d have left S2 with much more of a triangle than we did- it’s just the way things played out, so he was crammed into the last 2 eps (you could see the poor guy’s heavy limp a couple of times), so I guess we are lucky to have as much of Hook as we did considering 🙁 Cant wait to be graced more often with Hook/Killian & CS interactions in S3 though 😀
[adrotate group="5"]May 17, 2013 at 1:29 am #195000surayyaParticipant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I’ve found myself getting very upset the last couple of days because we’re supposed to be a family. We’re ONCERS! And I leave this thread being all happy and full of hope and I venture elsewhere and all I hear is “get over it” or various actors ship SF or “you’re delusional” – it’s very upsetting and I have to come back here to remind myself that we are not crazy and there are real things to hold onto and we just have to let it play out.
We won’t be able to prove anything on either side to anybody until Emma actually CHOOSES one over the other. As much as we can hold on to moments earlier on in the season, until she knows that Neal is alive and sees him again we’ll just have to be patient and ignore the constant hate thrown at us from people who scream “but Neal’s still alive!” and of course my favorite…”take that CSers, Hook will ship SF” *cough* mumbles something *cough*.
Agreed, That’s why I haven’t really ventured out of the “safe zone” & when I do- I do not mention CS at all & avoid the SF ott posts 😉 I really don’t need my reasons for loving the show so much ruined by ott haters.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Neal being alive is not a hindrance, it gives us legitimate status when she makes a choice. I would be shocked if there isn’t at least a little bit of a triangle because she should have some emotion over it and goodness knows Neal will be upset because he interpreted things differently. Add in the Hook & Bae dynamics of before and of course there’s going to be some drama.
Exactly.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
That being said, being alive is a status of being. Choosing to go back to her when nobody ever has is a choice. This show is about hope and family and choices and learning to eventually do the right thing.
Yes & If A&E don’t point that out out next season (it bugs me no end that it wasn’t pointed out during the podcast- I wish the presenter was less biased with her interview- it was VERY Rumbelle & Bae heavy despite it being a hookcentric episode! & it would have help stop most the CS haters from poo pooing us 🙄 ), I’ll be a very unhappy camper (It’ll be ok if it all comes out later on though- I just want it said & acknowledged on the show, It was an important 1st for her & Snowing need to see & accept that as well- Snow risked her own life & FOLLOWED Emma (her daughter) into the portal, so she wouldn’t be alone; Hook risked his own life & CAME BACK to Emma (the only one he feels something for), so she could do the ‘hard/right’ thing)- Neal’s parallel is that he keeps leaving her (jail time- portal), but unlike Snowing, he gives up- it will be interesting to see if that changes in S3 (Hook doesn’t).
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Now, I do agree that Emma’s LINE about the necklace in Manhattan was probably just what popped into her head to defend herself against Neal’s comments because she clearly is still hurt by Neal (which explains why she left Hook up the beanstalk in Tallahassee). Hook’s necklaces I believe he had before Milah so those aren’t really reminders of Milah but probably something else, but they do both wear special necklaces *for whatever reason* and we’ll probably learn that eventually. Kindred Spirits indeed.
Agree with this 100%
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
The truly interesting thing I came to realize, was that twice this season Emma has tried to have some form of closure: first handing Neal back the Swan necklace, and the 2nd being letting go of him in the portal scene. They were both VERY emotionally charged moments, and she does have lingering feelings from the past which is understandable.
A&E have outright said, she still love, loves him, so I think we cant belittle those feelings. It doesn’t mean they will work out as end game though (& at this point, that’s the last thing I’d like for them to do TBH! I understand why people want SF, I do- but with everything they’ve rammed down our throats as being true love, NF doesn’t fit- it just doesn’t!)- but she still does love him. I watched The mentalist recently & a line 1 of the characters said popped out at me – something along the lines of “Who doesn’t remember their 1st love? You never forget that & those feelings never go away- it was your 1st time loving!” That is very true & Emma has Henry, the most important thing in her life, which she has to share with Neal. A&E have also said, if Henry didn’t want a relationship with Neal, he wouldn’t be in her life- nor would Regina….Henry is the thing tying her to these people NOT her own choices! SF fans forget all the stuff they don’t like in favor of their ship- we (in here) tend to look at everything & see the reasons for & against, so can be a little more tolerant.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I do think Snowing will have more issues with it at first, but as much as Emma loves and needs her family, they better than anyone should know what it’s like to be told to be with someone they don’t love (perfect Daddy!Charming / Emma bonding moment *mumbles something about Charming not wanting to be like King George* – would make a nice parallel back and could be in an ep with a confrontation about King George and/or Emma could simply say “I’ve read your stories. I lived out the Mary Margaret & David Nolan drama when you thought you were married to Kathryn. You more than anyone should understand how I feel. Why can’t you just want me to be happy?” That …would be awesome.
Like! That would also be a very cool moment.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
She’s held onto that swan necklace for so long and worn it presumably every day, even after she spent time in Tallahassee looking for Neal and she GAVE IT UP. She handed it to Neal – split second decision to give up something that has been a part of her for over a decade. Something that has meant a lot to her and she gave it up without even having to think about it (and we have never seen her mourn not wearing it either, at least not that I can remember).
She did think about it- it took a hell of an effort for her to give that “ideal” up- it hurt her a lot to let that necklace go & she wavered over giving it up- she was so devastated by that whole series of events- I really felt for her, it represented the only one who had loved her because they wanted to in her whole life. I personally think that’s what makes your 1st love so special- it’s the 1st person who really loves you, that doesn’t HAVE to love you- they choose you & for Emma that was the 1st person & time in her life, she had felt loved at all all rolled into one.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I realize she still has the car.
Honestly I don’t see the car as a biggie- Why would you give back the only thing allows you to go from a to b for starters, it works well & it’s not like she could sell it & replace with a better car after all. Nor is it like she freaks out when it’s been beaten up or anything- it’s a car, a place for her to sleep etc Those beetles go forever too 😉
As for what the actors think & feel- we need to take what they say with a grain of salt. Ginny knows SW & MM inside out, so yes, has insights into her thoughts & feelings- she doesn’t have insights into JMO/Emma’s thoughts & feelings, so however one actor/ess may feel about another’s character is irrelevant, unless backed up by Adam &/or Eddy (like Hook & Emma’s connection/understanding of one another for instance or Henry being the most important thing in Emma’s life period- E22 proved nicely that Emma hasn’t really let either of her parents “in” yet as well).
In short I think the harder SF fans deny CS as a possibility, the more they feel it could happen & being so aggressive is their way of protecting their own ‘threatened’ ship. I just hope that A&E don’t take nasty/ott fans as a reason to do SF or CS. I just want Emma to be with someone who will do right by her *cough-Killian so far-cough* & allow her to love & be loved like she deserved- she’s been through crud loads of stuff for everyone already, she deserves happiness without doubts of her own (like Snowing- if nothing else, they know they will always love each other).
May 17, 2013 at 1:46 am #195005surayyaParticipant@obisgirl wrote:
A list of DVD features for the 2nd season are out. Hook has a special feature 😆 😆
Sincerely, Hook – Set sail with Colin O’Donoghue (Killian Jones/Captain Hook) and learn more about the man behind the hook.
AWESOME!!!!!!!! Cant wait- will have to order from Amazon or something as no news yet on Nz release dates 🙁
May 17, 2013 at 2:18 am #195018MysteryKat25ParticipantAwesome insight Surayya!
I guess I should have reworded part of it earlier because you’re right, they do keep saying that she loves him (though honestly I think it’s a part of her that loves him, not that she’s super in love with him but she does love him yes, and a part of her always will I’m sure). I just think she will end up looking back on the events of season 2 (necklace, portal, etc) and eventually see it as a kind of closure, even if she didn’t intentionally mean it to be at the time. They’ve got a lot to work out but these are 2 steps that are closer to an ending than a beginning, especially when you add everything else in.
I haven’t done my rewatch yet and I didn’t remember here wavering on giving it up but that almost makes it better in a way because she knew what she was doing then. Some feelings are definitely still there and need to be processed but I still think someday it will feel more like closure than restarting something.
I’ll agree on the car thing.
Overall I’ll agree that the actors know their characters pretty well and can give great insight to their particular character. The thing that concerns me specifically regarding Snow is that Ginny jumps into mamaSnow mode and seems VERY anti-Hook, whereas Snow herself has told Emma not to revert back to the person she was before she got to SB etc etc. So I feel like what they’ve set up with Snow on the show vs what Ginny says are …conflicting to me.
It makes sense for MRJ, RC, or EdR to say it though because they’re Neal/members of Neal’s family so they have to get in that headspace every day. It’s gotta be harder to watch the show with that in mind and not be biased in any way. I’m sure we obsess over certain moments that aren’t as obvious until put together (for instance, in that Snowing & CaptainSwan parallels video I linked here earlier I had completely forgotten about Snow’s necklace that Charming took and the bean necklace that Hook was waving in front of Emma just the same as the other and both girls were trying to get them back).
They’ve bookended the season in such a beautiful way and there are tons of Snowing parallels etc etc but I get why the actors (who must always be taken with a grain of salt) may not pay much attention to / have forgotten / are biased etc etc. I guess it just saddens me that she immediately jumped into the idea that Snow would hate it but I guess we never really got any reaction on what she thinks of Neal. In fact at PaleyFest, JMO was the only one who really seemed to have anything to say about that and she wanted to know when Charming was going to punch him for letting her go to jail!
It’s rough for everyone really I guess…they can’t say much without getting into trouble, and they can say their opinions all they want, especially at the end of the season, but JMO and MRJ have both been kinda focusing on the Henry front rather than on the love aspect of things cause they really can’t comment on it. MRJ even said he doesn’t want to paint the writers into a corner even though he thinks SF have a chance still. So I guess what I’m saying is it surprised me that Ginny would immediately attack the idea of CS when everything we’ve actually seen sets that up beautifully. I’m hoping things sound a little different next year or that people just don’t say who they’d like to see together. Much safer to just stay neutral rather than to risk going against what the show may have in mind to do…
Would be kinda bad at the end of all things for them to say “well I really wanted to see her end up with ___” but regardless of what any of the actors (or fans for that matter) want, it’s ultimately up to H&K and its the actors jobs to play it no matter what so maybe down the line, they’ll have to get into the character’s headspace and learn to be accepting & supportive, regardless of what she chooses.
I’ll agree that I think SF people are panicking…either that or they’re sitting in a bubble with their fingers in their ears saying “lalala can’t hear you” – not really sure which. I see more SF people coming into CS places than I do the other way around and I try to be open-minded on it if I’m going to say anything about it in a pro-SF place, saying what I would need to see for them to win me over etc. It’s tough though because some are already saying it’s canon and to get over CS (like that will EVER be possible for anybody to just get over their ship).
Having watched Lost I can say that people who ship hardcore will love their ship no matter what happens and still be angry years later if it doesn’t, so sadly it’s something that we’re just going to have to deal with. I expect season 3 will involve a lot more hiding out in here and fan-girling alone because there’s bound to be a lot of nastiness headed our way since they should (finally) be getting some much-needed screentime together to make up for the majority of this season.
Looking forward to all the good stuff for us but dreading the kind of hatred we’re going to encounter. I keep watching all the paralleling vids and important quotes and the bookending of the season etc etc to remind myself that we are not alone, nor are we crazy. Some days are better than others but I have heard of a few people switching ships after the finale, so maybe with more time others will join as well.
What I’ve said all season is that if both seem like interesting / viable options, then whoever is on screen the most gets the most support (typically speaking). Neal & Hook both presented interesting options in Tallahassee (though it clearly started a split in the fandom pretty fast!) but then Hook was shown in a not-very-positive light all the time because he was a) barely there b) getting thrown on the ground and becoming a bit of a joke, and c) disappeared for awhile. So of course Neal has the better storyline at that point. People have moments to take something away from (looks, comments, etc etc) and Hook just looked like a fool getting thrown around all the time! I think that the last couple of episodes have helped, and seeing him a lot more next season will DEFINITELY help. I think the fact that he will be going back to his element (being on a ship, presumably being pretty much in charge regarding Neverland stuff etc.) maybe they will see him differently. I guess I can understand why people look at the moments we (mostly) got from Hook this season and ask why on earth we want him for Emma, but I have hopes that with more screentime, especially scenes that do NOT involve him ending up on the floor, we may be able to win some people over and at least be as torn as Emma is bound to be.
I still think he was brought in to show the past and Hook the future, and they definitely bookended the season etc etc, but he is still important to the central storyline (ie: the reason Rumple wrote the curse, he’s gotta stick around at least for Henry, get back in good with Rumple & now Belle of course, etc.) but I don’t think his story will ultimately wrap around Emma. Otherwise there’s no point in paralleling Snowing to that degree. There just isn’t.
Hookian – your comments earlier reminded me a bit ago relating to Colin’s band (which sounds amazing, even though he won’t be with them anymore which is good for the show, not so much the band) and the comments about playing the piano. It’s just one more way that Hook relates to being Jack and not Sawyer if they have him play piano. It wouldn’t be nearly as random as having Jack play it. Hook could possibly since it’s canon that Hook, in other versions of the story, does in fact play. One more tiny little happy thing for me regarding the Lost stuff. 🙂
Hope everyone is feeling slightly better about stuff today than earlier. I know I go back and forth on whether I’m optimistic or clinging dearly to every last hope, but coming here definitely helps work through some of the anxiety! *passes out cookies*
*Reminds self that there’s tons of Hook stuff on the DVD including the cover and a BTS thing on Colin and therefore he = important no matter what* Could they have spread out those 2 on the cover anymore? I would have liked Emma to be on the other side like at PaleyFest but I can live with this as it would have been too obvious since people already guessed something like that with the way PaleyFest was laid out
Even though they did use purple for Charming, all I could think of was Hook is Red, Emma is Blue, and the border of the box is PURPLE.
*clings to every insignificant little detail* I NEED SEASON 3!!!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 17, 2013 at 2:42 am #195021surayyaParticipant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Just found this awesome fanvid that I wanted to share with you guys! It has Snowing, then CaptainSwan, and then a lot of the parallels! It’s called “Holding out for a hero” and it’s brilliant. Love it so much & wanted to spread some happy cheer around here!
Stupid internet spat the tack & wouldn’t let me back on the forums to comment on this vid 😈 – This vid is really well done, I’ve saved to my desktop, so I can watch & get lots of CS feels while I’m sick 😉
I also enjoyed this one- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz3QNaFw7yE
May 17, 2013 at 3:22 am #195029surayyaParticipant@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I guess I should have reworded part of it earlier because you’re right, they do keep saying that she loves him (though honestly I think it’s a part of her that loves him, not that she’s super in love with him but she does love him yes, and a part of her always will I’m sure). I just think she will end up looking back on the events of season 2 (necklace, portal, etc) and eventually see it as a kind of closure, even if she didn’t intentionally mean it to be at the time. They’ve got a lot to work out but these are 2 steps that are closer to an ending than a beginning, especially when you add everything else in.
Yep- I agree. She will come to see the difference in who she was & who she is.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I haven’t done my rewatch yet and I didn’t remember here wavering on giving it up but that almost makes it better in a way because she knew what she was doing then.
Yes, it is & that’s why I liked the scene so much (bad as it is for Emma to go through! 🙁 ) Here’s a clip of the bar scene- the necklace thing is around 2:48- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLOuZEEeL2k
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Overall I’ll agree that the actors know their characters pretty well and can give great insight to their particular character. The thing that concerns me specifically regarding Snow is that Ginny jumps into mamaSnow mode and seems VERY anti-Hook, whereas Snow herself has told Emma not to revert back to the person she was before she got to SB etc etc. So I feel like what they’ve set up with Snow on the show vs what Ginny says are …conflicting to me.
They are, but she’s thinking real world- not FTL with 300yrs past & no ‘blood ties’ in the mix 😉
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
It makes sense for MRJ, RC, or EdR to say it though because they’re Neal/members of Neal’s family so they have to get in that headspace every day. It’s gotta be harder to watch the show with that in mind and not be biased in any way. I’m sure we obsess over certain moments that aren’t as obvious until put together (for instance, in that Snowing & CaptainSwan parallels video I linked here earlier I had completely forgotten about Snow’s necklace that Charming took and the bean necklace that Hook was waving in front of Emma just the same as the other and both girls were trying to get them back).
Yes, so had I- loved that part 😀
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
They’ve bookended the season in such a beautiful way and there are tons of Snowing parallels etc etc but I get why the actors (who must always be taken with a grain of salt) may not pay much attention to / have forgotten / are biased etc etc. I guess it just saddens me that she immediately jumped into the idea that Snow would hate it but I guess we never really got any reaction on what she thinks of Neal. In fact at PaleyFest, JMO was the only one who really seemed to have anything to say about that and she wanted to know when Charming was going to punch him for letting her go to jail!
Exactly! Beside’s Ginny may have had zero idea of Hook’s & Neal’s actual back ground etc – she had no scenes with Neal at that stage, so may have had little idea over the exact details & besides it doesn’t matter what the other characters think/feel, it’s what Emma thinks/feel that means the difference between it happening or not- same as it was with Snowing 😉
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
It’s rough for everyone really I guess…they can’t say much without getting into trouble, and they can say their opinions all they want, especially at the end of the season, but JMO and MRJ have both been kinda focusing on the Henry front rather than on the love aspect of things cause they really can’t comment on it. MRJ even said he doesn’t want to paint the writers into a corner even though he thinks SF have a chance still. So I guess what I’m saying is it surprised me that Ginny would immediately attack the idea of CS when everything we’ve actually seen sets that up beautifully. I’m hoping things sound a little different next year or that people just don’t say who they’d like to see together. Much safer to just stay neutral rather than to risk going against what the show may have in mind to do…
It is… & as I said above, she may not have been privy to the exact details of Emma/Baefire that JMO was, so her reaction was simply in accordance with the info she had from S1 & S2 Crocodile ep.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Would be kinda bad at the end of all things for them to say “well I really wanted to see her end up with ___” but regardless of what any of the actors (or fans for that matter) want, it’s ultimately up to H&K and its the actors jobs to play it no matter what so maybe down the line, they’ll have to get into the character’s headspace and learn to be accepting & supportive, regardless of what she chooses.
Yep, but the actors do have some say- Ginny told A&E she didn’t want Snow killing anyone in the S1 battles for her & Charming’s kingdom (it didn’t fit with what Snow would do in that situation)- so they said ok & only had her injure or knock out the soldiers etc- However, they don’t get a say in anyone else’s characters (I hope).
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I expect season 3 will involve a lot more hiding out in here and fan-girling alone because there’s bound to be a lot of nastiness headed our way since they should (finally) be getting some much-needed screentime together to make up for the majority of this season.
Oh I hope so 😀 I’m hoping we get at least one ‘ship board’ ep & they don’t just rock up to NL & debark ❗ It’s only being what- 4days & I cant for S3 & more CS scenes lol 😉
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
What I’ve said all season is that if both seem like interesting / viable options, then whoever is on screen the most gets the most support (typically speaking). Neal & Hook both presented interesting options in Tallahassee (though it clearly started a split in the fandom pretty fast!) but then Hook was shown in a not-very-positive light all the time because he was a) barely there b) getting thrown on the ground and becoming a bit of a joke, and c) disappeared for awhile. So of course Neal has the better storyline at that point. People have moments to take something away from (looks, comments, etc etc) and Hook just looked like a fool getting thrown around all the time! I think that the last couple of episodes have helped, and seeing him a lot more next season will DEFINITELY help. I think the fact that he will be going back to his element (being on a ship, presumably being pretty much in charge regarding Neverland stuff etc.) maybe they will see him differently. I guess I can understand why people look at the moments we (mostly) got from Hook this season and ask why on earth we want him for Emma, but I have hopes that with more screentime, especially scenes that do NOT involve him ending up on the floor, we may be able to win some people over and at least be as torn as Emma is bound to be.
Yes, I agree. There are more people who I’ve I noticed, even on this forum alone, who are no longer 100% anti Hook. These last 2 eps have allowed for much of the backstory we may have gotten during the season to come to light & people are a little more receptive now than there were when he was 1st introduced. I hope that Hook will be as well loved as Rumple & Regina by S3’s end. I’ve only started to feel sorry for Regina this season myself (though I liked her in S1, I felt she was to twisted to be allowed anywhere near a kid- same with Rumple in many ways)
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I still think he was brought in to show the past and Hook the future, and they definitely bookended the season etc etc, but he is still important to the central storyline (ie: the reason Rumple wrote the curse, he’s gotta stick around at least for Henry, get back in good with Rumple & now Belle of course, etc.) but I don’t think his story will ultimately wrap around Emma. Otherwise there’s no point in paralleling Snowing to that degree. There just isn’t.
I agree again- Emma’s story needs to be an epic one like her parents, just a slightly different variation of it (ie. It’s pure ‘real world’ {honoring Emma’s real world up bringing & reality} merged with pure FTL {honoring where she comes from & the reality of who she truly is}), so it only makes sense her TL story would mirror her parents, as her story is much the same.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
*clings to every insignificant little detail* I NEED SEASON 3!!!
LOL- you & me both!
May 17, 2013 at 3:57 am #195034MysteryKat25ParticipantThanks Surayya for agreeing with me!
The only thing I want to add is that last year Ginny was always saying she didn’t think Snow would do ____ insert whatever here, and then this year at PaleyFest she seemed ok with the idea of a darker Snow because of the things that happened with Cora though with how they keep playing on the guilt she’s basically reverted back. The point though was that her opinion changed a bit and felt like Snow couldn’t be boxed in quite as much and we did see a black spot on her heart. So maybe over time opinions will change on other things as well.
I agree on the point about what she was privy to at the time, though they’ve all seen how the season ended now but some things are more moving to people than others and it takes a lot more than looks for people to jump ship. I do agree though that a few around here are a little less anti-Hook so yay!
I kinda equate Hook with the Rumple thing from Season 1. He wasn’t well-liked by a lot until around Desperate Souls when people softened to him a bit (me included) and then absolutely loved him from Skin Deep on. I expect we’ll be getting more Hook backstory much much earlier in the coming season and that should help a TON.
Sadly for some (including some of the actors I bet), we’ll have to wait until things are really spelled out on the show. WE see the looks, the parallels, the bookends, the choices and we look at it differently than others that have spent the whole season complaining about him. Maybe on rewatch they’ll see a little more knowing what they know now from the finale, or they may see something when it becomes way more obvious, but every little bit helps. 🙂
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 17, 2013 at 4:10 am #195035jasminegirl84ParticipantBeen enjoying all your discussions and viewpoints, girls. I just didn’t have the time to quote and respond as much as I’d like to 😥
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
I kinda equate Hook with the Rumple thing from Season 1. He wasn’t well-liked by a lot until around Desperate Souls when people softened to him a bit (me included) and then absolutely loved him from Skin Deep on. I expect we’ll be getting more Hook backstory much much earlier in the coming season and that should help a TON.
Totally agree and then some! I had the same sentiments about Rumple. The beautiful thing about OUAT characters is that they are not as cut and dry as they are initially led to be. There are hues of gray that are revealed once they background of how they became who they are is revealed. We then understand the motivations and seemingly evil acts more clearly.
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Sadly for some (including some of the actors I bet), we’ll have to wait until things are really spelled out on the show. WE see the looks, the parallels, the bookends, the choices and we look at it differently than others that have spent the whole season complaining about him. Maybe on rewatch they’ll see a little more knowing what they know now from the finale, or they may see something when it becomes way more obvious, but every little bit helps. 🙂
Us CSers are just more sophisticated and observant that way 😎 We see the gray before it is shown! Yes, every bit helps and I don’t think that Hook’s past is closed just yet. We all know that. There will be plenty of room to explore what happens after Hook arrives at NL pre-curse, his possible interactions with Bae there, and how he was around his father before he jumped ship. The writers are setting up the momentum for these plotlines to pickup quite nicely so I think we will have all of S3 to explore the beautiful intricacies that comprise Hook/Killian Jones that we all know and love already. Some are just arriving late to the party, is all 😆
My hands are just itching to vid right now, but my school papers are holding me back 🙄 I need a hug right now. *puppy dog face*
Keeper of: Hook's eyebrow action, Emma's eye-rolls, David's sarcasm, Snow's "She's kind of out of town" to Tiny, and Rumple's "Not telling."
May 17, 2013 at 4:26 am #195038surayyaParticipantNaww *hugs* to jasminegirl.
I’ve been stuck in bed since yesterday with a respiratory infection, so have more time than usual on my hands atm – though haven’t started viding yet as I despise using WMM 🙁 😳 (I get impatient when I’m sick), so slowly rewatching Once from the beginning….. it’s great 😀 Will probably start uploading clips to WMM this weekend & get started on it though- it will be a VERY long slow process 😉
We almost need a countdown calender for the general start time of S3 ….. hurry up CC!!!!May 17, 2013 at 4:33 am #195040jasminegirl84Participant@Surayya wrote:
Naww *hugs* to jasminegirl.
I’ve been stuck in bed since yesterday with a respiratory infection, so have more time than usual on my hands atm – though haven’t started viding yet as I despise using WMM 🙁 😳 (I get impatient when I’m sick), so slowly rewatching Once from the beginning….. it’s great 😀 Will probably start uploading clips to WMM this weekend & get started on it though- it will be a VERY long slow process 😉
We almost need a countdown calender for the general start time of S3 ….. hurry up CC!!!!Aww, thanks for the hug and I hope that you feel better soon! I get impatient when I’m sick too. I’ve been under the weather too, so know how that goes.
Slow and steady wins the race, my dear. As long as you put your heart and soul into it, doesn’t matter how long it takes. I’m a slow vidder too, so I can only imagine how long it will take me to take hold of the vidding reins again after a hiatus.
Best of luck to you! *hugs back*
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