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Ok I’ll start Neal’s dead he gave up his life so Emma can find her happy ending with someone else.
meh… i dont see his death that way. he opened the hole in the ground for the DO to be resurrected and was supposed to pay with his life. Rumple saved him from paying his debt. I know its just my opinion – but I felt that it was just the end of the prolonged inevitable death that he was supposed to pay a year ago and also the relieved burden on Rumple who was sharing a body and space for a second mind.
I meant to put good actions get points and negative actions are subtractions. i didnt realized i missed that whole part. i guess i should really just do my job and check in during the day. hehe
I do find it quite convenient and ironic that cries of ‘plot’ and ‘OOC’ have increased since Neal’s death. I also find it funny. If you want a seamless show with perfect continuity and character development – you’re watching the wrong show (actually, if you find that show, let me know – I want to check it out). OUAT is about telling a fantastical tale incorporating our modern day world. It’s got an enormous cast and crazy storylines. Nothing in it suggests it’s going to be focused on tying up every little bit and spelling out every little thing. OUAT is a show that you enjoy because it completely takes you out of the real world – you sit back and enjoy the ride. If you start focusing on plotholes and inconsistencies and timelines, the only thing you’re going to achieve is a migraine. OUAT also purposely doesn’t waste valuable minutes spelling everything out. Doing that takes away part of the fun – the writers assume their fanbase is intelligent enough to put pieces together and enjoys allowing them to do that. If they told every little detail and spelled out every little thing, 1) Emma and Henry would still be on their way up to Maine from the pilot and 2) it’d take away the fun you can have with headcanons and what-ifs and theories and fanfics!!
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Now I think it makes sense when that report came out that the Jolly Roger was being dismantled. It’s because we don’t need to see it anymore and Killian’s done with that part of his life.
It it also makes sense for his character arc too because he let go of his revenge and his first love and he gave up his home for a new home with Emma.
Aw, it was dismantled? That’s so sad! I kinda wanted them to get it back somehow, but even if that wasn’t going to happen, I was still hoping for some more flashbacks. Now I’d like to see him get a fancy modern sailboat and teach Emma and Henry to sail…not that that would exactly be relevant to the plot. 😛
I finally saw the finale and OMG, it was so beautiful, from start to finish. I loved seeing Killian and Emma in the Enchanted Forest, him teaching her how to dance at the ball was sweet, Emma finally coming to terms with everything in the room and then activating her magic. And Emma and Killian are in the book now!!!
@obisgirl – how did you manage to hold out so long? I was literally climbing the walls to see it and I only had a few hours to wait!!
Actually I have a question about the book. Is Capt Hook’s (and by association Peter Pan) story already in the book? ‘cos if it was then they were pretty stupid not to know that Pan was a villain and that Pan was Rumpel’s father. And on that, do the Charmings know Killian was a naval officer at one point in his life? Does what the audience see in flashback become known by the characters? I know he told Charming his brother was his Captain, but he could have been talking pirate captain. I only wonder b/c Emma seemed surprised that Killian could dance and I assumed he probably went to balls when he was in the royal navy, but she didn’t make that connection. So does she even know what he was before being a pirate?
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@obisgirl – how did you manage to hold out so long? I was literally climbing the walls to see it and I only had a few hours to wait!!
Actually I have a question about the book. Is Capt Hook’s (and by association Peter Pan) story already in the book? ‘cos if it was then they were pretty stupid not to know that Pan was a villain and that Pan was Rumpel’s father. And on that, do the Charmings know Killian was a naval officer at one point in his life? Does what the audience see in flashback become known by the characters? I know he told Charming his brother was his Captain, but he could have been talking pirate captain. I only wonder b/c Emma seemed surprised that Killian could dance and I assumed he probably went to balls when he was in the royal navy, but she didn’t make that connection. So does she even know what he was before being a pirate?Maybe the book only revolves around their family and until there is a story in connection with them it does not appear. But you bring up a good point… which will actually negate my thought above : Neverland. Shouldnt they all be in the book then with the Henry rescue in NL.
IMO what we see is not always made known to the characters… but how come no one has notice that Hook/Killian is well educated and dressed? If they thought about the fact that he must be from a nobleman’s family then its not odd that he knows his way around a ball… but like you said – how come no bells aringing to anyone in our SB family?
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@obisgirl – how did you manage to hold out so long? I was literally climbing the walls to see it and I only had a few hours to wait!!It is not an easy feat. I have tumblr, I blacklisted the titles of the episode, spoilers, everything but I don’t have that capability on my iphone, so when I check tumblr, I see stuff still. But it was still squee worthy when I watched the episode. I loved Hook having a man crush on himself. That had me laughing out loud the most.
Maybe the book only revolves around their family and until there is a story in connection with them it does not appear.
I had that thought too. That would make sense. So in terms of the book, the only part of Rumpel’s story, for example, that appears would be when he associating with the Charmings? That would therefore exclude all of his backstory and Bae’s and Milah’s and Hook’s. Oh I just had a thought! That would be why August put his story in the book! B/c the Charmings didn’t know what deal Geppetto did with the Blue Fairy to save Pinocchio. Right, I think it makes sense now 🙂
Neverland. Shouldnt they all be in the book then with the Henry rescue in NL.
I had assumed the book only went up to the curse and not beyond.
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