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arjay369
ParticipantI think the ring just symbolized Daniel’s memory. We know, via EQ and Cora, that a heart can be removed and the person continue to live. We also know that if the removed heart is squeezed and turned to dust, the person dies. I’m thinking Regina just magicked the ring to hold an image of Daniel, but nothing more. It was stonger magic because it was a personal object with a personal connection, not something Regina had collected.
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ParticipantI believe Henry is just in a magic sleep and not dead. Just as EQ told SW, “You’re body will be your tomb and you’ll be in there with nothing but dreams formed of your own regrets.” The apple is not poisoned, it’s magicked. As Gold says to Regina when she declares her (premature) victory, “You made magic from magic.” In FTL, Red checks SW breath against the dagger. No fog showed. IMO, if FTL characters had known (or thought) to check for a pulse, they most likely wouldn’t have found one. It’s basically the magical equivalent of sleep paralysis or being “locked-in”. Henry is clearly in the same state as SW was so in the ‘real world’ (ie SB residents), he will appear dead.
arjay369
ParticipantOkay, so I just recently joined the ONCE forum a week ago, so thought the Blue Fairy was really a source of good, pure and simple. But after reading everyone’s thoughts, rewatching ‘The Return’ and doing some research on the character, I’m inclined to side with those who theorize that the BF is doing what she thinks is right, regardless if it is seen as good or bad.
First, in episode 1.19, when Rumpelstiltskin is listing ways to try to find Bae and poses “A curse?”, the BF states “Of course you would think of a curse instead of a blessing. Your magic is limited by its own rotten core, Rumplestiltskin.”
IMO, the BF is making a statement on more than just Rumpel’s character. For some reason, her hesitation after his saying “A curse?” and the quality and tone of voice in her answer makes me think what is really meant by her statement is ‘Of course you would think of it as a curse instead of a blessing.’
This makes me think, as others do, that the BF is really behind everything. As someone who thinks she is doing the “right” thing, perhaps she has been around so long she thinks magic is not such a good thing to be used anymore. Maybe she thinks mortals rely on it too much or abuse it’s power.
Also, at the beginning of that same scene, Rumpel questions the BF on how he can follow Bae. The BF states “You had the way, you didn’t take it.” And then in, what appeared to me, a voice both disgusted and antagonistic, she adds “And there are no more magic beans!” Rumpel says “That’s a lie.” BF says “We don’t do that.” Rumpel again says “That’s a lie.”
I think Rumpel is telling the truth. Looking back at the original ‘Pinocchio’ story, The Fairy with Turquoise Hair (aka The Blue Fairy), lies often. In the story, BF first poses as a young girl living in a house in the forest. When Pinocchio is chased by the Fox and the Cat and seeks aid from anyone inside the house; the girl (BF) states everyone inside is dead including herself and she is awaiting her coffin. After Pinocchio had learned who the BF really was, he leaves on an adventure and later returns to the house where he finds a tombstone supposedly marking the BF’s grave. Pinocchio goes to an island where he meets an older woman who once again turns out to be the BF in disquise. After uncovering the deception, the BF promises to turn Pinocchio into a real boy as long as he earns it through ‘hard study’ and ‘obedience’. At the end of the tale, Pinocchio is told the BF is ill and needed money which Pinocchio gives.
The BF can also have a meanstreak (or is at least a bit of a sadist) as when she tried to get Pinocchio to take medicine and he refused, she summons a group of coffin-bearing rabbits. Or when she summoned a group of woodpeckers to shorten his nose after he lied. Or when she summoned a school of fish to peck away at Pinocchio’s donkey body until he became a puppet again.
It seems to me, the BF is lying and will do whatever she needs to teach people (as in the story) or achieve the “right” result.
arjay369
ParticipantTrue that.
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
Participant@King Arthur wrote:
Now that her plan to poison Emma has failed and Henry is the one suffering the consequences, Regina will probably deal her trump card Belle to get Gold’s help.
My thoughts exactly.
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
ParticipantActually, Regina acted as she already knew Rumpel had put that clause regarding Emma into the curse. To me anyway, Regina wasn’t acting like someone who had just learned something had been kept from her.
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
ParticipantJust three words:
“Magic is coming.”
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
ParticipantI feel the same way. Regina may be vengeful and cruel, but she still seems inexperienced when compared to Rumpel/Gold. She’s like that young woman still holding a grudge (which she is) who decided to do this and she now wants someone to help her see it through to the end instead of taking care of it herself.
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
ParticipantThe only thing I can think of for Gold to be able to rewrite the curse is to do what Regina did and sacrifice the magical objects he may have…as well as August since he’s “dying anyway…and Gold…may as well get something out of it.”
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
arjay369
Participant@steliokontos1 wrote:
I knew it I knew Henry would end up sacrificing himself! That has to do it!
Hmm, I don’t think the sacrifice itself is what will make Emma believe. Knowing her, Emma would think Regina was attempting to poison her, but in a mundane way, not a magical one. I think what will make Emma believe is if nothing works to save Henry but he wakes up when she kisses him – unless someone interferes with that.
Expect the unexpected, Accept the unaccepted.
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