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@hjbau wrote:
The thing is that i think Emma’s counterpart is the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming.
Yes, that is true and it is right in front of our very eyes. I may well be just that. We tend to overthink someone that may just as simple as that. Emma is mentioned in the book as Emma, except she’s also Emma. daughter of snow White and Prince Charming/ The Savior and Emma the Bailbonds Woman/ Bounty Hunter/ Sherill of Storybrooke. Regina is Regina in both except she’s Evil Queen Regina/ Evil Witch Regina/ Regina, daughter of Henry and Cora/ Regina, Snow White’s stepmother and Mayor Regina/ Henry’s adopted mother. Point being the two share similarities.
1) Both are in Henry’s book
2) In the book their nicknames’, jobs and titles change but they have the same name in both worlds.
That’s enough for to say that she is just simply Emma and needs to remember and believe that she is the daughter of Snow White and Prince “Charming” James, so she now needs to just help Mary Margaret and David remember and believe themselves. August and Henry are just there for support and help. She needs to start trusting and letting them help her. She may be the savior but even a savior needs help too.[adrotate group="5"]He only became the Dark One to save his boy. He deserted the Ogre Wars like anyone one who was drafted to any war would. Who wants to be forced to go to war? He is evil but nevertheless because of his need to save his boy he felt aquiring power was the only way to do it. He was tricked by Zoso, the former Dark One to take his life and his place. He takes first borns because first borns go to war. Going on that theory if he takes all of FTL’s first borns no one will go to war for the ones seeking the first borns but go to Rumple and strike a deal for them.
The Wizard of Oz references may not mean we will see a Wizard of Oz scenario but quite simply a hint of a strategy to take. The Wizard of Oz story may be an Art of War for fighting Fairy Tale Villians. The trio does really need to first find out who they are up against and how many? Next they need to know who is on their side and how they can help? Then if the WoO is just a plan and not a hint of an up coming episode then the trio plus whoever is on board should make that happen.
Yes, Belle is Regina’s trump card and one that needs to be played wisely. Once it is played and played wrong she will most certainly lose. If played right she can win and if not win, have another one up on Mr Gold/ Rumple.
Regina’s Trump Cards:
1) Belle—-currently in psych ward and still in Regina’s possession.
2) Graham—-currently dead because at the time he found out who he really was he allied himself to Emma.
3) Kathryn—-if it is deemed she is one; then she will destroy the murder case. current alive and mental condition = unkown
4) being the Mayor—still intactIf anyone can think of any more? Well anyways….the point is that if one looks at the current scoreboard she still has 2 of 4 trump cards if 3 is one and if you can count 4 as another. Otherwise she is losing 0 to 2.
I do not believe Belle is crazy. It is a good theory that the mental ward is actually a, “I remember who my fairy tale identity is ward”. I think Belle and Regina will make for a good cat fight and who cares who will win…….Cat Fight!!! Another is Emma vs. Regina and Snow vs. Queen Regina.
The power Emma has as Sheriff as a regular person without magic is the same power a police officer has. Good cops does good things, bad cops does bad things. Good cops can be bought and I believe because of that owed favor she has already been bought and in Mr. Gold pocket. call it a “get out of jail free card” or a “send someone the jail at my leisure card”.
@Sam993 wrote:
You don’t think there’s a point of no return with Regina? If she wants to be good, maybe it be too late by then. Maybe the only thing she can do is redeeming herself because Snow White, Charming, Emma, and Henry probably won’t help her. She will have to do it on her own. But that’s for the Regina topic. I guess when talking about Snow, you really must talk about The Evil Queen/ Regina.
But to connect with Snow White, I think she understood now, as a grown woman, that what she did was a terrible mistake and that she’s trying to learn from it by doing good. Even in Snow Falls, Snow admits that she did something horrible to Regina. Yet, I really would like to see if Snow ever apologizes for the mistake she made (other than in Stable Boy).
No I don’t think she is at a point of no return. None of us really do. We all should rewatch every episode and focus our attention on every scene with Regina in it (FTL and Storybrooke) where can we come to the conclusion that she is at a point of no return. For every horrible thing she has done either in FTL and Storybrooke her eyes shows some humanity. When she kills her father Henry for instance, she did correct me if I’m wrong she either said soory or goodbye to him. A cold hearted killer would have just killed and sat down and ate cocoa puffs and then gone to work.
I think after she has a self realization moment of all she did, it is possible for her to be redeemed with or without help. I do not believe she is a character that deserves to die or be killed. Anyone killing her would be no better than Cora whom I believe is the real evil one, the one who made Regina the way she is. Perhaps she is the real villian of this story if she is still alive that is. Also maybe she may be repsonsible for Rumple’s turmoil, if the two have a story together.
I do not believe the real enemy has revealed themself yet. Every character good or bad were victims in someway or another. Whether by another’s doing or themselves, everyone was victimizied. Everyone has made bad decisions in order to try for a better result or has had every good decision backfire on them. Think about it. Rewatch. Then think about some more. There maybe some truth in your theory yet there may also be some truth to mine too.
If and now this is just an if…….If Snow at the time she met Regina knew Cora killed her Mother and spilled the beans on purpose then will our feelings towards these character’s change? We all expect Snow to be completely innocent and pure blah blah blah but not in a bad way. We have seen Angry Snow via weird Rumple potion. What if Snow from the time she met Regina till she meets Charming was not such a good girl? We know nothing about young Snow….for all we know or don’t know she could have been a spoiled brat. She did want to go riding at night when she accidentally came across Regina and Daniel. We all ask who goes horseback riding at night? Maybe a spoiled brat does? Then when she got older she may have gotten worse or better??? we really do not have an answer to this. If it turns out she wasn’t a spoiled brat then there are still plenty of unanswered questions that only more stories about can answer.
EnchantedOne wrote: Maybe David and MM need to come face to face with who they really are in order to break the curse…
We should also take note that Emma should start talking to David as at least a friend. Emma and MM talk enough and are almost acting like a daughter meeting her mother at the same age. They seem to take turns being each other’s mother. You have to agree they do get along very well.
She needs to start doing that with her Dad/David/James/Charming. Every girl needs her Daddy and every girl is a Daddy’s girl. Every father sees his daughter as his little girl and it will never change.
That is a good observation concerning Red. Red having Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde qualities could make for a good future storyline with her being the daughter of Dr. Jekyll. Jekyll after having been Mr. Hyde for sometime uses his daughter to find acure because she accidentally drank the Hyde potion. He has to now cure his daughter as well as himself.
I think Eliza is her real name. Red did not object to being called that and besides even though Liza Minnelli does wear a lot of make up, I certainly do not think Liza is as good looking as Red. You can’t compare the two. There is no comparison Megan Ory is much prettier than Liza ever was, is or will be.
It is also possible that David has simliar blackout symptoms that Red did. The two of them (Red and Charming) seem to get along good together but we still really do not know how the two met exactly. There was that early episode where they had met and talked but it seemed as though they already knew each other. Maybe they are related and do not know it or yet or they do know but we don’t??? If it can be either confirmed that he has werewolf qualites or that they are related, it will explain why they get along so well. As of yet there is only speculation but I think we are all on to something. We need to see one more Red episode with Charming in it.
Any thoughts??? Plausible??
This is not just that but an observation too……Every person in Storybrooke has day to day or meet and interact with each other also appear together in FTL. Snow’s story has Charming, Regina, Rumple, Grumpy Cinderella etc. so their Storybrooke counterparts also have a relationship of some sort. Dr. Whale not has interacted with MMB but seems to have had a 1 night stand, was David’s doctor and is under Regina’s thumb. The conclusion that I am coming to is that he must fit into Snow’s story or Regina’s story. There is still more to tell of Regina’s FTL story and I cannot see Snow having any other guy in FTL exept Charming. Red seems to also fit into this part of the puzzle of who Dr. Whale is. It is possible he is part of the Little Mermaid story and somehow Snow, Charming and company fit into the story. Cinderella and Snow did meet in FTL so maybe Snow and Ariel are friends too.
