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I think that the resolution needs to be bigger and more symbolic than just passing the burden to a new guardian, even if that person gets better terms of employment than Rumpel did. One of the recurring themes throughout the series has been that a big task is too much for one person to handle alone, and that friends and allies and even former enemies will insist on being part of the team to share the burden. To me, that’s such an uplifting theme that it deserves to be the moral of the Once Upon A Time fairy tale, and so I think that the role will go to all of Storybrooke.
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GaultheriaParticipantRoni, Kelly, and Weaver never murdered or raped anyone. If I’d committed a number of terrible crimes and just wanted to move on from my past rather than taking responsibility for it, I’d cling to an identity that would let me pretend I was no devil.
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GaultheriaParticipantCan someone please wake up Rogers? Also, does he have a first name?
I’m surprised his nickname isn’t “Jolly”. It would have worked out-of-universe for obvious reasons and in-universe for Rogers always being so somber and serious.
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GaultheriaParticipantEverything about Alice’s behaviour makes sense, given her upbringing shut away from the world with just one person to talk to. She really was Daddy’s Little Princess until her mumbleteenth birthday when she escaped from the tower, so it’s understandable that she still talks like a five-year-old. And, in real life, I hope I could feel compassion and patience for any such emotionally-stunted person who crossed my path. But I just wish that someone on the show would say “Alice, you say some important things, but the way you say them needs work.”
–That is an incredibly elaborate shrine to Belle. And seems to be appropriating certain aspects of Mexican culture in ways that make no sense.
They had to work a Coco reference into the show. Rumpel wants to be that boy who goes to be with his dead loved ones. Only, that boy was doing it to bring joy and music back to the world of the living.
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GaultheriaParticipantIt appears that Rumple sacrificed his sanity and remaining hold on the light in order to save Alice from an immortal life guarding the Dark One Dagger. What did you think of this sacrifice? Is there any real way for Rumple to find Belle in the afterlife now? Also, Rumple didn’t actually revert to evil, just looking like the Dark One–how does that work??
Everyone here knows by now how I feel about Rumpel’s death wish, so I won’t mention it any more often than the show does. (I know, for all practical purposes that’s not a limitation.)
Suicidal wishes are as dark as wishes ever get. Rumpel won’t get rid of his darkness by continuing to embrace his death wish.
It’s hugely disrespectful, too, to Belle, for Rumpel to keep insisting that she is the source of all the goodness in his life, that she is the source of his entire capacity to be a good person. That’d be emotional blackmail if Belle wasn’t already dead. As it is, Rumpel is just offloading all of his responsibility to manage his own life onto someone who can’t fight back.
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GaultheriaParticipantIt’ll be a “We are all the Guardian” type of resolution.
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GaultheriaParticipantRight. I almost think they made the necklace glow just so that we would be reminded of its existence.
So that we won’t be puzzled when its new owner uses it?
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GaultheriaParticipantJust this once everybody lives!
Henry could show up at Emma’s apartment door, wearing a gas mask…
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GaultheriaParticipantWhy do Mills women have so much trouble taking responsibility for their own actions?
Where I live, taking responsibility for their kind of actions would mean saying “Please incarcerate me for a minimum of 25 years, and probably for the rest of my life”. I agree that they should say that, but I can guess that it would be a hard thing for even a person with a conscience to say.
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GaultheriaParticipantdidn’t Hansel say the oven caused the burns?
That’s one of the corrections Hansel made to Henry’s book in in 7×16 “Breadcrumbs”. The idea that the killer was correcting that particular story was a major clue toward identifying him. You’re right, it doesn’t fit with what we saw in 7×17.
I think we could stretch the interpretation of that line so that it just means “I really hate witches”, and that Hansel is choosing to remember his story inaccurately in a way that helps him justify his killing spree. Or maybe he’s just trying to be poetic about metaphorical flames scarring his soul; he works in the music industry, so maybe he tends to think in lyrics.
Hansel would have made a good main antagonist for this season. He’s a counterpoint to his good friend Henry, who could have been the primary protagonist. And, although I’m certainly not condoning murder of murderers, I’m glad that the show is at least acknowledging that evildoers such as the show’s witches can’t expect to avoid punishment by simply choosing to not do evil anymore. This could have given the show a depth that it’s been lacking this season.
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