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Regina, Cora, and Zelena are def related, because they can each break one another’s blood magic.
Henry being Regina’s father might be more questionable, but Rumple would definitely KNOW if Cora had HIS child (because they had a contract–and we know he can enforce his contracts even if he’s frozen and imprisoned by squid ink–see 104).
And there’s absolutely no reason to doubt that Eva & Leo are Snow’s parents, or that they came to love each other very much.
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The way Rumple reacted to Hook’s question about where’s the missus and if she’d succumbed to the spell yet suggests that SOMETHING happened–if nothing else, that he’s feeling guilty for having used magic to put her to sleep while he packs.
Though it’s also a callback to how Hook teased a Rumple when he took Milah with him on the Jolly Roger all those centuries ago. Rumple’s annoyance at how Hook is constantly talking about Belle to him is completely understandable in that context (though Hook totally gets that Belle is probably his one chance at persuading Rumple to soften his plans even a little). And of course Hook’s got a history of hurting Belle herself, which ties into all that, too.
The relationship between Hook and Rumple is fascinating and well choreographed, even if Rumple’s current motivation is confusing.
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Well, I don’t believe he’d want to try to change Henry into Nealfire…Rumple always liked Henry, even before he knew they were related, and only briefly got spooked by the prophecy about him. But he knows too that Henry and Bae aren’t the same person–he’s not as crazy as Ingrid, at least not in the same way. The fact that he wants to go to New York hadn’t completely registered with me yet, though.
That’s where Neal lived. That’s where his apartment still is; Emma found it only a few weeks ago when Hook told her to so she would believe him. If Rumple’s plan is to somehow bring back Neal, his apartment might be key to doing that. (That’s the one world-threatening thing that feels IC for him to do to me, but I know RG will say that will never happen.)
If his plan is to live quietly with Henry & Belle, or even just Belle at this point (maybe he’d leave Henry to his mothers without the threat of the curse destroying him; it’s not really clear now), where better to do that than his son’s abandoned apartment, where he can at least be surrounded by his things? (Now, about the realism of an apartment being abandoned and unclaimed for a year in Manhattan….good thing it’s a fantasy show.)
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With both Belle & Henry, they almost CONSTANTLY set up potential story arcs and character connections that they then just…drop. Forgotten. They did it with Neal, too. (And they always do it with the recurring/guest chars, but at least they’re not billing them as MAIN CAST members when they do it.) Belle’s centrics are starting to feel shocking because she’s SO absent when it’s not about her specifically. Like, in ten episodes, we saw maybe ten minutes of her that wasn’t the 20 she got in her centric. Henry, too, is startling to see (partly because the kid is growing so fast and it’s hard to recognize his older self when you never see him). With Henry, at least, one can excuse some of the neglect on the fact that his actor is a youth and has some restrictions on time etc on set.
But I could give you a dozen story arcs I had EXPECTED to see play out with Belle that would’ve made great television, used Emilie’s talents well, and further explored both Rumple and other main characters’ histories & characters. But they never happened. Belle’s been set up to be close enough to the Charmings that she spends a year living in their castle and gets to babysit Nealflake the first hour Snow spends away from him intentionally (that’s a position of trust, man); she and Emma call each other constantly when stuff comes up; she and Hook & Regina have Issues to sort out that have already been fun for…maybe 90 seconds total tv time? She’s Henry’s grandma and adventured with his father, rescued his father-figure Archie, hangs out with the Blue Fairy AND his former babysitter Aunty Ruby….just etc etc etc etc etc. And the two of them have NEVER had a conversation together. They’ve barely been on screen together. This…really isn’t the place for this rant but…they’ve set Belle up to have relationships with EVERYONE and yet we only see these relationships in the very rare moment they matter to the PLOT. The rest of the time they’re relegated to the background or her centrics, and we only really see her interact with Rumple.
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Yeah…Anna wasn’t hunting for the urn that long. I dunno. It’s…handwavey. But at least Adam threw us a bone?
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Not…really. Unless “wednesday” was either the night the spell was cast…
Hans acted like he’d been free of the ice a day or so before Anna & Kristoff.
Anna complains that the boat they took was slooooooooooow.
I…guess it could happen within 24 hours but it’s…a stretch. They had to get far enough from Arendelle that they were beyond the freeze’s extent to find Black Beard.
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Yeah, but it’s that active verb there that made me pause. They’ve DONE time travel now. So it’s an open possibility they’ll touch on it again.
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The past AND the future suggests that MAYBE what they’re doing will affect time. Like…enough to make Mal alive in the present? Enough to make the alternate version of the storybook true? (tiny beating hope) Enough that Bae doesn’t die?
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It’s not the first seriously problematic theme they’ve skimmed over…if that was truly the only way to stop the spell before more people were hurt, I guess it works, but it’s not exactly the most hopeful ending.
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Anna: Wait, wait, wait, I’m the babysitter?
–yeah, she knows what that means. No more screen time for you, Swiss Miss.
🙁
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