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Why are you giving them ideas, Matt??
Legally they aren’t allowed to, so we actually might WANT to post specific story ideas we don’t want to come true! Fun fact, Jane has tweeted before that if anyone tweets her any unsolicited story ideas, that she has to block or mute them for that very reason. That’s why TV writers don’t read fan fiction. I know you’re clearly joking of course. lol!
[adrotate group="5"]Now I can’t help but picture a training montage between Rumple and Merida, with the Sara Bareilles song “Brave” playing in the background. “Honestly, I wanna see you be BRAVE!”
Neal and everyone else in this episode did the same thing. Just opened the vault. That’s it. I’m just saying there are no set and logical rules in this show. Neal opened a vault and darkness came forth and he died. Everyone else opened a vault and darkness came forth (which HOW cause it was inside Rumple!!) and nothing happened.
Not exactly. He used the key, which was specifically for resurrecting the Dark One. The rest of them never used the key at all. They instead touched three of the icons as some sort of combination. About the goo roaming around in the vault, I have two possible theories. Either Rumple used some of his goo as a way to protect the dagger, or the goo could be from previous Dark Ones who went to the vault after dying. If it’s a later, hypothetically Neal could have entered the vault the way everyone else did, but they still wouldn’t have been able to bring back Rumple if he was just a pile of goo. There would still be a life for a life cost in order to bring him back. Maybe more of this will be explained in a Dark One origin flashback, but I know that’s wishful thinking.
This is probably the weakest episode of the Season for me so far.
LIKED
– Snow and Charming getting over their little fight, and outwitting Arthur together as a team. I was starting to get annoyed at how much Charming seemed to be trusting Arthur, so I’m relieved Charming ultimately decided to trust Snow instead.
– Emma trying to confront her visions of Rumple. This was a nice struggle for her character.MIXED
– I liked seeing Lancelot, but I felt like he should have been given more to do.
– Nice to see Merida back, but I’m iffy on how much purpose she has in this storyline.DISLIKED
– The whole Camelot flashback. It just felt off and wonky.
– Arthur’s growing obsession and controlling behavior felt underdeveloped. So he was bullied as a kid and wants to prove that he’s worthy no matter the cost? Something feels missing.
– Rumple taking the gauntlet while Guinevere and Lancelot visited his vault. Doesn’t seem to add up with when he said he went to Camelot to get it, unless the vault is located within Camelot’s domain.
– Magic dust that can not only make objects appear complete, but can also brainwash people. It can even rebuild an entire castle! This might be the most eye-rolling plot device yet, and that’s saying a lot when it comes to this show.
– Guinevere’s acting, in the most respectful way I can think of, felt lacking. I sorta had this impression since she was first introduced, but her performance this episode cements it.–Everyone opens the Dark One’s Vault and no one dies. EXCEPT NEAL. Yeah, no. This was bull. I don’t care..it was bull. What about the price of magic? What about messing with dark forces? Yeah, you keep telling me that Neal’s death was because he messed with forces he didn’t understand. Bull. Guinevere, Arthur, Lance, Snow and Charming all went into that vault, opened it and everything and *nothing* happened.
To be slightly fair to the show, they weren’t using the vault to trade a life for a life. A life was specifically the price for resurrecting the Dark One, and that wasn’t their reason for visiting the vault. The vault has to exist for other reasons aside from resurrecting a previous Dark One, as we saw Emma emerging from it in “The Dark Swan.” But yeah, still didn’t make sense for them to go inside the vault itself at all. Especially when it contradicts that Rumple went to Camelot to get the gauntlet, unless they specifically explain that the vault was within Camelot’s borders this entire time, since Snow and Lancelot were able to get to it rather quickly in this episode. I’m hoping for more answers when it comes to a possible Dark One origin flashback. But really, they could have had that run in with Rumple literally anywhere else.
Spending my Sunday writin' the 100th episode of #OnceUponATime … (#92 tonight! Hope to see ya!) pic.twitter.com/xtgZOpFklm
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) October 18, 2015
Wish I could watch this one with the whole fandom. It's gonna rock your world. #ouat https://t.co/fWUoWpBMPM
— Brigitte Hales (@InkTankGirl) October 17, 2015
@Melaniee_27 But don't worry. It's the good kind of crying.
— Brigitte Hales (@InkTankGirl) October 17, 2015
The good kind of crying?
Correct. There is no confirmation of Hades in S5B at all; he’s just speculation largely based on 502; however if you include any interviews from A and E that point you to believing Hades is coming, then those are spoilers and need to be blacked out. (Or I’ll just move your entire thread if I think it’s going to become spoiler heavy and to avoid lots of black boxes.
So far the biggest hint that is currently a spoiler is Adam and Eddy describing 5B as “Hell.” So that would need a spoiler tag, if brought up.
We also never saw any scenes like this, and is it me, or does the Dark Swan look a little different? Maybe they did some re-shoots?:
The #DarkSwan on the #OnceUponATime set yesterday #OUAT #UglyDucklings pic.twitter.com/otnllEgOJC
— Larry Andreutti (@BastardSonVan) July 19, 2015
So, something just occurred to me. Back when they were filming the Season premiere, it appeared that Granny’s was replaced with another place called “Beer Garden.”
https://twitter.com/ouatfandomblog/status/622170627261100032
https://twitter.com/ShimmeringCrown/status/622170631832911872
— Manú (@BullockRegal) July 17, 2015
Granny's destruído 😮 pic.twitter.com/RUz00iP9FN
— Once Serie (@OnceSerie) July 18, 2015
https://twitter.com/amandaburnsx3/status/622203736308318208
However, we never saw the Beer Garden in the final cut of the episode. Either they got rid of that part of the storyline entirely, or it won’t come up until a later episode. My guess is, they were originally going to show more of Storybrooke prior to the gang returning, because there are also pics of Sneezy as acting sheriff in the daytime that we never saw:
http://yvrshoots.com/2015/07/shoot-once-upon-a-times-new-storybrooke-sheriff-in-steveston.html#.ViQH__lVhBeI was just going to say, reading the description it would have sounded nice for a final episode, series finale title.
I wonder what the series finale will be called though when we eventually/inevitably get there. They already used the happily ever after thing on Wonderland. I’m rambling. Swan Song sounds interesting and I’m convinced we will be going to Hades soon
I could see them just using “Happily Ever After” as the series finale title. Wonderland’s was just the “And They Lived…” portion of that quote.
